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Motherwell v Rangers 24/12/2023


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17 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Yes, the same old Guff, when refs could be trusted.

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Is there a back story to this? For instance did this precede or follow a contentious decision that Rangers benefitted from? Or is it just a random picture being used to fuel the daft conspiracy? 
 

In any event that appears to be a very old picture. In modern times with VAR (despite its inadequacies) in operation, plus several TV angles, pundits and social media scrutinising every single penalty decision involving Rangers, does anyone seriously think that match officials and the authorities (who couldn’t run a bath, never mind a concerted campaign to aid Rangers and keep quiet about it) are actively working away to conspire to help Rangers at all costs???

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11 minutes ago, MJC said:

Is there a back story to this? For instance did this precede or follow a contentious decision that Rangers benefitted from? Or is it just a random picture being used to fuel the daft conspiracy? 
 

In any event that appears to be a very old picture. In modern times with VAR (despite its inadequacies) in operation, plus several TV angles, pundits and social media scrutinising every single penalty decision involving Rangers, does anyone seriously think that match officials and the authorities (who couldn’t run a bath, never mind a concerted campaign to aid Rangers and keep quiet about it) are actively working away to conspire to help Rangers at all costs???

Does anyone seriously think that Rangers possess such quality defenders they were the only top division team in Scotland, England, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal and the Netherlands not to concede a penalty last season - in fact, for 70 odd games? And have you written your letter to Santa?

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51 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Does anyone seriously think that Rangers possess such quality defenders they were the only top division team in Scotland, England, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal and the Netherlands not to concede a penalty last season - in fact, for 70 odd games? And have you written your letter to Santa?

Like I say, sometimes these runs happen. Rangers actually have conceded two penalties this season, both in the league cup but those seem to go unmentioned because they don’t fit the agenda, just like the fact that up until last week Celtic had actually been awarded more penalties than they had this season. How does that work out then in the minds of the conspiracy theorists? Are the officials allowed to give penalties against them in the Cup but not the league or something? 
 

This “penalty to Rangers, boo hoo it’s a conspiracy” is just silly wee boys talk and doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

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5 minutes ago, MJC said:

Like I say, sometimes these runs happen. Rangers actually have conceded two penalties this season, both in the league cup but those seem to go unmentioned because they don’t fit the agenda, just like the fact that up until last week Celtic had actually been awarded more penalties than they had this season. How does that work out then in the minds of the conspiracy theorists? Are the officials allowed to give penalties against them in the Cup but not the league or something? 
 

This “penalty to Rangers, boo hoo it’s a conspiracy” is just silly wee boys talk and doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

hope they dont get one the morra

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21 minutes ago, MJC said:

Like I say, sometimes these runs happen. Rangers actually have conceded two penalties this season, both in the league cup but those seem to go unmentioned because they don’t fit the agenda, just like the fact that up until last week Celtic had actually been awarded more penalties than they had this season. How does that work out then in the minds of the conspiracy theorists? Are the officials allowed to give penalties against them in the Cup but not the league or something? 
 

This “penalty to Rangers, boo hoo it’s a conspiracy” is just silly wee boys talk and doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

Stands up to loads of scrutiny.  Them and their pals from other side get nearly and I mean nearly every week a dubious decision in their favour and their fan boys in media deflect it.

If you think otherwise then up to you.

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23 minutes ago, MJC said:

Like I say, sometimes these runs happen. Rangers actually have conceded two penalties this season, both in the league cup but those seem to go unmentioned because they don’t fit the agenda, just like the fact that up until last week Celtic had actually been awarded more penalties than they had this season. How does that work out then in the minds of the conspiracy theorists? Are the officials allowed to give penalties against them in the Cup but not the league or something? 
 

This “penalty to Rangers, boo hoo it’s a conspiracy” is just silly wee boys talk and doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

No penalties against any side for in any league for 2 years beggars belief, especially in the days of VAR. You're right though, these runs do happen. Rangers went 44 games without conceding a penalty in the league 3 years ago.

There doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy at play for certain teams to be treated differently to others in this country, just officials behaving like so many other people.

 

 

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2 hours ago, MJC said:

Is there a back story to this? For instance did this precede or follow a contentious decision that Rangers benefitted from? Or is it just a random picture being used to fuel the daft conspiracy? 
 

In any event that appears to be a very old picture. In modern times with VAR (despite its inadequacies) in operation, plus several TV angles, pundits and social media scrutinising every single penalty decision involving Rangers, does anyone seriously think that match officials and the authorities (who couldn’t run a bath, never mind a concerted campaign to aid Rangers and keep quiet about it) are actively working away to conspire to help Rangers at all costs???

Not an odd picture at all, it's just one member of the brotherhood saying hello to a match official who also happens to be a member, is it not the masons behind every conspiracy the green uglies think so

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Pen decisions etc aside, its all the soft fouls and 50/50s they always get. Means they get even more of the possession and pressure.

There is also selective reviewing of decisions by  VAR.

Don't thing there's an overt conspiracy, but there's certaily more granular approach to OF incidents.

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9 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Not an odd picture at all, it's just one member of the brotherhood saying hello to a match official who also happens to be a member, is it not the masons behind every conspiracy the green uglies think so

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Thats all it is. It proves nothing. What if the Motherwell captain or one/someof our players in that game was also in the brotherhood?

Tiny was a good referee, one of the best I've seen.

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They have always been given the benefit of doubt, just look at some decisions in recent times, this season at Ibrox for instance Spencer was denied when through one on one for an apparent foul on Tavernier, why the ref doesn't play on then review VAR surprised me, not to mention the penalty incident in the first half. Then last season you have Cantwell feigning an elbow to the face and an incident where Leon King scythed down McKinstry when he was running through on goal plus that offside goal where the two lines were flipped on VAR but they gave them it anyway. We could probably keep rhyming off incidents, it's hard enough to play them without them getting every soft decision. It's like you compare the shirt pull penalties they have got recently to the ones other teams have been denied and it just emphasises the case. 

As for the game I'm hoping for a real Christmas miracle, I suspect we will need to score more than one to do it. It was refreshing last week to finally get our first clean sheet in many months. While we may not have got the results we have wanted our better performances this season have came against the much better sides. What I would do to ruin Christmas for these bigots. 

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11 hours ago, gaz7 said:

Stands up to loads of scrutiny.  Them and their pals from other side get nearly and I mean nearly every week a dubious decision in their favour and their fan boys in media deflect it.

If you think otherwise then up to you.

Every side probably gets a dubious decision in their favour in every game. Be that a soft foul, a harsh yellow or a red. But soft or dubious can still be correct under the laws of the game. The Old Firm are more likely to get penalties because they attack more and therefore spend more time in the opponents box so it’s no surprise that they tend to get more penalties awarded or at least seem like they do.

11 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Not an odd picture at all, it's just one member of the brotherhood saying hello to a match official who also happens to be a member, is it not the masons behind every conspiracy the green uglies think so

🤝

 

Not an “odd picture” an “OLD picture” which it clearly is.

Does anyone seriously believe that in 2023 there is a referee/governing body driving conspiracy to assist Rangers?

For that to be the case it would need to be because of one of two things surely. One, all referees are Rangers fans or members of “the brotherhood”, or two, the SFA who employs the officials are able to successfully run this underhand campaign AND keep it quiet and not give any leaks or key information away. Bearing in mind this is the same SFA that are notorious for being utterly incompetent and amateur like. 
 

Seriously think about this. Is that really possible? In todays world with so many people with access to information and access to social media to expose such a conspiracy, do you not think that someone somewhere along the line would be able to expose some form of illicit communications or evidence of underhand tactics?

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13 hours ago, bobbybingo said:

Does anyone seriously think that Rangers possess such quality defenders they were the only top division team in Scotland, England, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal and the Netherlands not to concede a penalty last season - in fact, for 70 odd games? And have you written your letter to Santa?

Does anyone seriously think every referee in charge of a Rangers match is a Union Bear member who jeopardises his career in front of the assembled media by awarding dodgy penalties?

Out of all the penalties Rangers have had this season only one has actually effected the score line in a meaningful way, the 90th min penalty against Hearts.

Otherwise it's a rather bizarre conspiracy that awards penalties when you are already 4-0 up at home to Dundee.

Incidentally the last time we beat Rangers at Fir Park we were awarded a penalty, the last time we beat Rangers in the league we were awarded a penalty and the last time we should have beat Rangers we missed a penalty in injury time.  What school did Jim O'Brien go to?  Eh? Eh? Oh....

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13 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Does anyone seriously think every referee in charge of a Rangers match is a Union Bear member who jeopardises his career in front of the assembled media by awarding dodgy penalties?

Out of all the penalties Rangers have had this season only one has actually effected the score line in a meaningful way, the 90th min penalty against Hearts.

Otherwise it's a rather bizarre conspiracy that awards penalties when you are already 4-0 up at home to Dundee.

Incidentally the last time we beat Rangers at Fir Park we were awarded a penalty, the last time we beat Rangers in the league we were awarded a penalty and the last time we should have beat Rangers we missed a penalty in injury time.  What school did Jim O'Brien go to?  Eh? Eh? Oh....

Did I say anything about them being awarded penalties? If you don't think there's anything weird about them being the only top tier side in Europe to avoid having a penalty awarded against them in their domestic league since VAR came into use, fair enough. 

And I'm not remotely interested in which school Jim O'Brien or anyone else went to. I'll leave that to the bigots.

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