wellfan Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 £5m cash and a new main stand should seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 The fee will come down to demand - if there's enough big clubs with deep pockets want him there could be an incredible fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 33 minutes ago, weeyin said: 10 million likely too high, but 4 million is defintely too low. £10 million for big European clubs English premiership or championship teams is small change, but it depends on what serious offers the club gets, so £10 million might be achievable plus add ons etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: £10 million for big European clubs English premiership or championship teams is small change, but it depends on what serious offers the club gets, so £10 million might be achievable plus add ons etc. True about add-ons. I was thinking more about initial fees. I agree 10 million is nothing to EPL clubs, but given that Mika left Arsenal for 4 million there can be quite a of variation in valuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: £10 million for big European clubs English premiership or championship teams is small change, but it depends on what serious offers the club gets, so £10 million might be achievable plus add ons etc. Has addons ever worked for us? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 20 minutes ago, Well Well said: Has addons ever worked for us? 🤔 I think Marvin Johnson made us a few bob in add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 If he goes for anywhere near 10 million then we have done very very well I am thinking between 5-6 tbh. I shall say this and I know it's going to sound ridiculous but I would be put Miller in cotton wool as soon as we are mathematically safe as that ankle fracture happens again and his stock will plummet rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Mccus28 said: I do think the 10m chat is a bit off, however, anything north of 4m would be a good bit of business and as you say, who knows where a bidding war could take us. LM is clearly in demand and good on him!!!!!! I wouldn't say it's that crazy an amount for some like him. Others are being touted for similar prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, steelman1991 said: I think Marvin Johnson made us a few bob in add-ons. Didn't McCormack make us a few quid too? Kipré did I believe. And a big move for Max Johnston likely will. Not sure about Turnbull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I'm hoping Lennon's in next Scotland squad so can watch him as well player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, weeyin said: Didn't McCormack make us a few quid too? Kipré did I believe. And a big move for Max Johnston likely will. Not sure about Turnbull. Not sure about Max as he was out of contract when he left us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, wellgirl said: I don't think he will go for ten million. That's crazy money. The fact is historically is that Motherwell have sold players for less than they are worth because we've had to but what might make a difference is that he hopefully won't be going to Rangers or Celtic. Im not sure he's worth 10 million tbh. He's an exceptional talent but if we do get that sum for him then of course Motherwell won't knock it back. He’s not a 10 million pound player just now but a team with plenty money might be willing to invest 10 million on his future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Would love to see him go abroad. Please not sellik as they will just ruin him plus try to get him on the cheap. They got £3,000,000 for Mikey Johnston so jeez Lennon must be worth 10 times that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: Not sure about Max as he was out of contract when he left us He was, but as he was young academy product and under 21 it meant, if the clubs were agreeable, we could make that kind of deal I believe. Else, they would use the dreaded formula to give us a development fee. Or I could be a mile oot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, wellgirl said: I don't think he will go for ten million. That's crazy money. It isn't really. Clubs in Norway and other Scandinavian countries are catching on, and we're a little behind in Scotland, but we'll get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, wellgirl said: I don't think he will go for ten million. That's crazy money. The fact is historically is that Motherwell have sold players for less than they are worth because we've had to but what might make a difference is that he hopefully won't be going to Rangers or Celtic. Im not sure he's worth 10 million tbh. He's an exceptional talent but if we do get that sum for him then of course Motherwell won't knock it back. Who did we sell low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 So in YOUR opinion we sold low? We made out like bandits on Phil (injured everywhere else he went, and was known as sicknote in FP) Turnbull, maybe, Faddy, nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 32 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Well it is my opinion. But don't you think some clubs give low offers when we are selling because it's Motherwell? That's my only point on this really Im just having this discussion with my brother just now and his opinion is that we did OK on the O'Donnell sale, Turnbull too but that a few others were sold on for less than what they were worth. If memory serves right we insisted on the £1.75 million for Phil all paid up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 The comparisons made about McFadden and Phil O'Donnell are not valid in today's football market, the amount of cash in the game , the level of transfer fees paid is vastly different to the cash on offer 20 years ago. Big clubs are paying millions for untried players , young players, etc hoping that they will turn out to be decent players to sell on at vast profits. So is £10 million from say Newcastle too much for Miller, for me no if he fulfills his potential becomes a regular starter his value will double so its a good investment. If we can persuade a club to pay £1.6 million plus add ons for Theo Bair ffs, getting £10 million for Miller should be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Motherwell in comparison to our peers have received transfer fees they could only dream of. St Mirren, Dundee & Killie are generally considered to be broadly similar sized clubs yet our numbers are on a completely different level to theirs. There's probably a separate argument to be made about the gap widening between the OF & the rest and how we'll no doubt never see a team out with those two ever win the league again (or even get close FWIW). But that's a debate for another day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 There's a few players who have been sold for decent fees that have done nothing with their careers - James Scott going for £1.75 million is the most obvious example.. Equally there's a plethora of guys have we've picked up from the wilderness and sold on for significant money - Kipre & Bair being the two most best examples of that recently. As much as plenty of people like to complain, Motherwell's player trading over the last decade+ has been a roaring success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 9 hours ago, Spiderpig said: If we can persuade a club to pay £1.6 million plus add ons for Theo Bair ffs, getting £10 million for Miller should be easy. Got to agree with the sentiment if not convinced on the figure. Getting £2m+ for Bair & Hastie is laughably unbelievable. Good for us right enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 10 hours ago, grizzlyg said: If memory serves right we insisted on the £1.75 million for Phil all paid up front Yes. Celtic shot themselves in the foot. It was to be paid in installments, but Celtic announced the deal publicly before it was signed. We then went back to them and demanded it be paid 100% up front. We had them over a barrel and they knew it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 11 Author Report Share Posted March 11 12 hours ago, wellgirl said: I think it is. I've never seen a player go for that in my lifetime but as I said before at least we have options and he's not going to be sold to Rangers and Celtic for buttons - that's the most important thing really. Too many Motherwell players have been sold on the cheap The reason we've never seen it happen in our lifetime is that, as a footballing nation—Celtic aside—we’re still playing catch-up to some extent. If an 18-year-old midfielder from Norway, playing for Rosenborg, has been highlighted for scoring eight goals and providing seven assists in the top tier over there, and he's being valued at £10 million upfront with substantial add-ons, then there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be using that as a benchmark. Factor in that there are no work permit issues when clubs in England sign players from Scotland, and the language and culture are the same—it only strengthens the argument. On one hand, you're saying we’ve sold our players "on the cheap", yet on the other, you seem content for Lennon to be sold at what would also be considered "on the cheap" in today’s market, especially given his ability and potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 He’s just been called up to the Scotland squad. For an 18yr old to be picked by Steve Clarke for the national squad, that is incredible. well deserved and I hope he gets to show people what he can do at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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