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24 minutes ago, mio said:

He’s just been called up to the Scotland squad. For an 18yr old to be picked by Steve Clarke for the national squad, that is incredible.

well deserved and I hope he gets to show people what he can do at that level.

Hope he gets a start, and he moves on as a current international player as that will increase his value, £10 million will be a bargin 😁

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Just now, Spiderpig said:

Hope he gets a start, and he moves on as a current international player as that will increase his value, £10 million will be a bargin 😁

If he gets a cap and more exposure then the price will go higher!!

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1 hour ago, mio said:

He’s just been called up to the Scotland squad. For an 18yr old to be picked by Steve Clarke for the national squad, that is incredible.

well deserved and I hope he gets to show people what he can do at that level.

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1 hour ago, mio said:

He’s just been called up to the Scotland squad. For an 18yr old to be picked by Steve Clarke for the national squad, that is incredible.

well deserved and I hope he gets to show people what he can do at that level.

If Clarke gives him minutes and he impresses, and he continues to flourish for Motherwell this season, I see no reason why we can't expect his value to creep towards £10m in this market. The only downside for us is that, if he's sold at the end of this season, he'll no longer be our player when he's (likely) called up again for the international friendlies in June. So, let's hope he gets those minutes against Greece, as I can't see any other Motherwell player on the horizon likely to get full international minutes anytime soon.  

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10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

……let's hope he gets those minutes against Greece, as I can't see any other Motherwell player on the horizon likely to get full international minutes anytime soon.  

I’m assuming that you’re talking about Scottish players as we have a couple of foreign internationalists playing for us at the moment. 

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6 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said:

I’m assuming that you’re talking about Scottish players as we have a couple of foreign internationalists playing for us at the moment. 

Yes, I am referring to full Scottish international players. It's also great to have some foreign international players in the Motherwell squad, but I think it's more enjoyable to follow when you've got players turning out for the national team of your own country. 

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15 hours ago, Yabba's Turd said:

Who did we sell low?

Mark Reynolds for £100,000 is the one that stands out for me.

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25 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

He’s in some good company in that squad. McTomminay and Ferguson doing well in Italy. McGinn and Christie key players for two good sides in this years EPL

Max Johnston back in the squad too.

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33 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Max Johnston back in the squad too.

Sadly he’ll probably play second fiddle to Patterson (playing that poor that he’s been told to get his act together by Moye’s)and Ralston (most Celtic fans even think he’s a liability) as Clarke’s an idiot. 

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31 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said:

Sadly he’ll probably play second fiddle to Patterson (playing that poor that he’s been told to get his act together by Moye’s)and Ralston (most Celtic fans even think he’s a liability) as Clarke’s an idiot. 

Patterson isn’t in the squad, but I agree that Ralston will probably be picked ahead of of Max because Steve Clarke…

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17 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Patterson isn’t in the squad, but I agree that Ralston will probably be picked ahead of of Max because Steve Clarke…

No doubt. I'm under no illusion that Miller or Johnston will get any game time, but from a selfish perspective just being in the squad should add a few more quid to Miller's value.

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5 hours ago, weeyin said:

No doubt. I'm under no illusion that Miller or Johnston will get any game time, but from a selfish perspective just being in the squad should add a few more quid to Miller's value.

Probably should have checked the squad before my rant but the sentiment remains :)

Edit: should also check I’m quoting the right post as well, was meant to be a reply to Wellfans reply to me. 

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I would be hoping our new manager will handle our best young talent in years well. With a lot of European contacts and experiance of advising young talent he could provide good advice and a market further afield. Also taking the captaincy off such a young player was a good move so he could concentrate on his game with no distractions.

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Delighted for Lennon Miller 👏 👏 👏 

As a Scotland fan I have always thought instead of taking a chance with young talent we almost seem to hold them back . If you are good enough you are old enough 

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1 hour ago, Yabba's Turd said:

So one out of how many? and we probably got market value for reynolds, he didn't exactly excel

 

Think only criticism was we turned down £750k from rangers the previous season.   But yes overall we have a good record.  Ben Heneghan another great of business

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1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Think only criticism was we turned down £750k from rangers the previous season.   But yes overall we have a good record.  Ben Heneghan another great of business

We dodged a bullet as no doubt Rangers would have insisted on jnstallsments and then stiffed us when they were liquidated. 

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Just a question to everyone is it time to end the Nick Daws era at the club change things on that front?

He was really only brought in as he had worked for Alexander before so surely as that's Hammell and Kettlewell gone it's time for a change in that dept aswell.

 

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If he can find us another Mika Biereth, I'm OK with that.

I doubt it's too difficult for a scout to identify individuals that suit different managers' preferences, so while I'm not against a change, I'm not sure it would make a whole lot of difference. Especially with the data driven approach clubs like to take these days.

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I've not been Daws' biggest fan, but I'm as guilty as most at focusing on the duds he signed, rather than comparing his "hit rate" to other clubs, all of whom churn through their fair share of shite each season as well.

You have to give him KVV, Spittal, Bair,  Slattery, and maswanhise, and maybe AP and some very good loans with Biereth and Gent, and decent good-if-not-world-beating additions such as Spencer, Ox, woolery and Casey.

I don't think he gets a bye for signing permacrocks though. Slattery's injury was horrible luck, but Ojala, Callachan and Nicholson all had a poor injury history before joining us, and there's no surprises as to what happened next.

I also don't think his scouring of the globe has been successful, unless the likes of Sol, Davor, Moses, and Efford were significantly cheaper than their local alternatives.

Overall he's probably done a decent job in the circumstances (budget, multiple managers, injuries, etc) but I wouldn't say he has such a golden touch that we'd fall apart if we switched him for someone else. He's also as responsible for us signing Josh Morris as KVV, so there's that

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6 hours ago, fizoxy said:

I've not been Daws' biggest fan, but I'm as guilty as most at focusing on the duds he signed, rather than comparing his "hit rate" to other clubs, all of whom churn through their fair share of shite each season as well.

You have to give him KVV, Spittal, Bair,  Slattery, and maswanhise, and maybe AP and some very good loans with Biereth and Gent, and decent good-if-not-world-beating additions such as Spencer, Ox, woolery and Casey.

I don't think he gets a bye for signing permacrocks though. Slattery's injury was horrible luck, but Ojala, Callachan and Nicholson all had a poor injury history before joining us, and there's no surprises as to what happened next.

I also don't think his scouring of the globe has been successful, unless the likes of Sol, Davor, Moses, and Efford were significantly cheaper than their local alternatives.

Overall he's probably done a decent job in the circumstances (budget, multiple managers, injuries, etc) but I wouldn't say he has such a golden touch that we'd fall apart if we switched him for someone else. He's also as responsible for us signing Josh Morris as KVV, so there's that

Not here to defend him - but is he responsible. I always thought his role was to "identify" targets - after that the "football department" and ultimately the manager made the call on the signing.

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