Bottom 6 Season 2023/24

[TheoBair14]

6 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Well done to Ross County, but that's not good news for us. 

It funny to see Rangers getting beat of Ross County 

It might be more points closer to us but I think being 7 points clear we will be safe 

[wellfan]

3 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

8 points ahead with 15 to play for should be enough for us, though the experimentation will need to wait for now. This is where our ability to rescue draws from the jaws of defeat will come in handy.

We'll likely draw our way to safety and finish on 42 points. 

[MJC]

2 minutes ago, wellfan said:

We'll likely draw our way to safety and finish on 42 points. 

Yip going by our form this season that seems the most likely.

[Kmcalpin]

10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

We'll likely draw our way to safety and finish on 42 points. 

Yes, we'll finish above 11th place by a good 2 or 3 points. Pre split points tallies pretty much what I thought they would be. A win against Livingston and a draw against St Johnstone should be enough  

[bobbybingo]

Still, amusing to see Rangers beaten by the RC.

[weeyin]

1 hour ago, wellfan said:

Well done to Ross County, but that's not good news for us. 

Has almost no impact on us, but I'd be worried if I was a St Johnstone fan.

We had 4 wins and a draw post-split last season. 2 wins this season would mean County have to win all 5 to overhaul us (or 4 wins, a draw and make up 19 goals).

BTW. This is another reason I don't like the split. Top 6 teams having to take on teams fighting for survival is a huge part of the game and often throws up a shock result or two.

 

[ropy]

An early draw against County and win against Saints should see us coast over the line.  If our first two games are against Hibs and Aberdeen then we may still be in a battle by the time these games are done.

[Yodo]

5 hours ago, wellfan said:

A draw was a fair result as neither team turned up yesterday. Given what was potentially at stake for both teams, I find it odd but not surprising that it played out as a rather pathetic game. 

I also find it difficult to take much enjoyment out of a season where we've only won 8 in 33 and had an appalling winless run. If others want to take enjoyment out of all those draws, then that's fine. Not for me, though.

I also don't think it’s fair to suggest those reasonable views are those of a troll. I'm just not a happy clapper. 

Exactly 

[grizzlyg]

Would be nice to experience home win on a Saturday afternoon. Think last time it happened was Livingston.  Our home record honking

[MJC]

4 hours ago, wellgirl said:

I'd like to think we've got one win left in us 

You would certainly hope that we could beat Livingston at home at least. Though the rest of the potential fixtures, away to Hibs and Ross County eg. then you would be thinking that a draw in both games is the most likely outcome.

[SteelmaninOZ]

3 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Would be nice to experience home win on a Saturday afternoon. Think last time it happened was Livingston.  Our home record honking

Honk honk. 😂 

SIWY

[mio]

I think we have a win left in us that’ll take us away from 11th place. Pleased for County today, nice wee place to go to, good ground, decent club and nice supporters.

personally I want st johnstone in 11th and see them relegated. Never liked them, can’t stand their “bought for them” ground, rubbish support and a manager that’d get the game stopped.

[twistandshout1983]

Funny funny to see the Rainjurs lose , I had been hearing all week how the league was won already , silence in work tomorrow now and no slagging Well 

Day of shocks all round with Liverpool and Arsenal losing 

Football a funny old game as someone once said

 

[Mad Dog]

10 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:

Sorry but if we’re being honest I’d say the Collum fucked up by not sending Spittal off.
Wasn’t just a wee push and then gets involved with others merited a red card I thought - I’m surprised Ross didn’t get involved.
I had a good view of the incident and if it was the other way round I’d have been raging at a yellow. 

I agree, I thought that Collum was having a good game up until that point. To be fair to him, he's not that bad but there is often a turning point in games when he completely loses the plot thereafter. The stramash could have been it on this occasion, especially as he bizarrely played on with two balls on the pitch straight after and I was thinking.... Oh no, here we go, he's snapped again.... But he kept his shit together.

[Spiderpig]

2 hours ago, mio said:

I think we have a win left in us that’ll take us away from 11th place. Pleased for County today, nice wee place to go to, good ground, decent club and nice supporters.

personally I want st johnstone in 11th and see them relegated. Never liked them, can’t stand their “bought for them” ground, rubbish support and a manager that’d get the game stopped.

Agreed, Inverness /Dingwall is a great away trip, ive had a few great weekends up there,  much better than Perth so personally I hope RC stay up.

[David]

14 hours ago, wellfan said:

I'm just not a happy clapper. 

I don't think anyone will ever confuse you for that. Happy? Very rarely. Clapper? I doubt you clap much at Fir Park.

10 hours ago, wellgirl said:

I would personally give the young boys a chance once we are mathematically safe. 

So would I, if they're good enough. Even once we're mathematically safe, we should push to finish as high up the table as possible. The difference between finishing 7th and 9th could be something like £125,000. 

Considering we're pushing for outside investment and needing cash, that money should be a priority.

[well_said]

6 hours ago, David said:

I don't think anyone will ever confuse you for that. Happy? Very rarely. Clapper? I doubt you clap much at Fir Park.

So would I, if they're good enough. Even once we're mathematically safe, we should push to finish as high up the table as possible. The difference between finishing 7th and 9th could be something like £125,000. 

Considering we're pushing for outside investment and needing cash, that money should be a priority.

That clown Shaw's miss not only cost us another two points but potentially some much needed cash as well . 

[robsterwood]

Personal opinion but I'm not that interested now finishing 7th or 8th or 9th. I know money means a lot to club but to fans I'm not interested now and season over. Splits not a great idea. Means seasons finished and clubs in top half sometimes have less points than bottom 6. Think we're safe now points plus goal difference. Wil be back at league cup matches.

[robsterwood]

1 hour ago, well_said said:

That clown Shaw's miss not only cost us another two points but potentially some much needed cash as well . 

Chances are Dundee may beat rangers anyway. Was always a long shot making top 6. 

[Spiderpig]

2 hours ago, well_said said:

That clown Shaw's miss not only cost us another two points but potentially some much needed cash as well . 

The two points yes, extra cash no, apart from us winning we also needed Aberdeen to beat Dundee which never happened, so it's 7th place prize money at best this season.

[joewarkfanclub]

58 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Personal opinion but I'm not that interested now finishing 7th or 8th or 9th. I know money means a lot to club but to fans I'm not interested now and season over. Splits not a great idea. Means seasons finished and clubs in top half sometimes have less points than bottom 6. Think we're safe now points plus goal difference. Wil be back at league cup matches.

Ive never understood this logic.

Surely you are interested in how much money the manager has to spend on new players in the close season.

As has been already stated the difference of a couple of places  could be £125k.

That could be the difference in getting a couple of our 1st choice targets, or having to settle for "projects" again.

Every game between now and the end of the season is important to us.

We have a big rebuild again in the summer. The more money we have for that the better.

 

 

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

Personal opinion but I'm not that interested now finishing 7th or 8th or 9th. I know money means a lot to club but to fans I'm not interested now and season over. Splits not a great idea. Means seasons finished and clubs in top half sometimes have less points than bottom 6. Think we're safe now points plus goal difference. Wil be back at league cup matches.

I think we're almost safe but won't take it for granted until we're mathematically home and dry. If, as seems likely, we play Aberdeen, Hibs or Ross County away first, and suffer a loss, which isn't beyond the bounds of possibility, there will be a few squeaky bums on here and elsewhere amongst our support. 

The sequence of the fixtures will be crucial. We don't want Ross County away as the first fixture. To be fair, none of the other 4 teams will either.

Our season isn't quite over yet.

[SteelmaninOZ]

4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

I think we're almost safe but won't take it for granted until we're mathematically home and dry. If, as seems likely, we play Aberdeen, Hibs or Ross County away first, and suffer a loss, which isn't beyond the bounds of possibility, there will be a few squeaky bums on here and elsewhere amongst our support. 

The sequence of the fixtures will be crucial. We don't want Ross County away as the first fixture. To be fair, none of the other 4 teams will either.

Our season isn't quite over yet.

I’m thinking on similar lines. 
Well said.

[well_said]

25 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

The two points yes, extra cash no, apart from us winning we also needed Aberdeen to beat Dundee which never happened, so it's 7th place prize money at best this season.

The point I was making was  to finish as high as possible in the bottom six where there is also a difference in prize money . Every penny counts.

Edited April 15, 2024 by well_said
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[wellfan]

9 hours ago, David said:

I don't think anyone will ever confuse you for that. Happy? Very rarely. Clapper? I doubt you clap much at Fir Park.

I can only assume you’ve followed me around Fir Park for the past 30+ years with a clicker in each hand noting my boos vs applause.

But, if you must know, I never boo my own team or players, and I generally always stay behind to applaud the team, regardless of the result.  

It may come as a shock to you, but what people choose to critically express on a football forum after a match and how they carry themselves at the match are often not one and the same. 

Happy Monday to you!