Aberdeen v Motherwell 27/04/2024

[Kmcalpin]

It was disappointing, but entirely expected, not take something from the game. It was always going to be a huge ask. Very disappointing too to lose Vale to a red card but again you expect that kind of incident at Pittodrie. I'm more concerned at his absence next week. Results elsewhere really went in our favour to make it a decent day. The games at Livingston and Perth were always going to be more important for us today than our own game.

[Stuwell2]

4 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:

My point earlier was that it looked like they were desperate to give Aberdeen something - fully expect the red card decision to be slated on sportscene tonight and possibly the red being reduced on appeal. Not that any of that counts for anything. 

Part one of my prediction done, ref and VAR slated on sportscene. 

Also liked SK and pundits slagging them off saying anyone who’s played football knows that’s never a red card - wasn’t even a foul so no free kick, no corner, no goal. I hope the club send a letter of protest in against both the referee and VAR guy. 

[grizzlyg]

2 hours ago, wellgirl said:

Can you name your source? 🤣

Do enjoy soy but also a bit of HP.......sorry.......ba boom 

[SteelmaninOZ]

And the gaffer said 

 

[couttsy]

Didn’t make it up to Aberdeen yesterday (thankfully by the sounds of things).

Just watched the highlights, no surprise after what Kettlewell said, it’s never a red card! How the refs not sent to watch that on the monitor I’ll never know, peak Scottish referees.

Don't get the grief Kelly is getting on some forums, no chance with the goal and then looked like he went on to make 2/3 really good saves. Blaney could and should do better for the goal, but it’s a good header to be fair to Garterman. 

We are going to be safe, but it would be good to win next week and put it to bed asap. 

[Kmcalpin]

Just watched the TV highlights. A few points stood out for me.

* Vale playing behind Bair again in midfield. At least that won't happen next week. Another striker will be playing in midfield. No need to sign many more sr trikers in the summer just sign more midfielders!

* Kelly flapping at a cross again.

* Never a red card. As Handsome Devil says on P & B, no intent, wins the ball, no excessive force, and Aberdeen player comes in late. A yellow card. Aberdeen certainly seem to have the Indian sign over us with referees, don't they. 

[wellfan]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Just watched the TV highlights. A few points stood out for me.

* Vale playing behind Bair again in midfield. At least that won't happen next week. Another striker will be playing in midfield. No need to sign many more sr trikers in the summer just sign more midfielders!

* Kelly flapping at a cross again.

* Never a red card. As Handsome Devil says on P & B, no intent, wins the ball, no excessive force, and Aberdeen player comes in late. A yellow card. Aberdeen certainly seem to have the Indian sign over us with referees, don't they. 

It baffles me that Kettlewell can't see what the fans see every week regarding Vale. He's a striker; play him beside Bair. It's that simple. Although I bet he starts Nicholson instead of Moses next week. 

It's time for a new keeper next season. For a team like ours, I’d rather have a big commanding keeper than a smaller shot-stopper.  

I'm pleased to see that Kettlewell isn't afraid to call out the officials on this incident. However, it’s a shame he's not as quick to learn from his own persistent failings, as perhaps that would give some indication that he's capable of implementing effective changes across the piece. 

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, wellfan said:

It baffles me that Kettlewell can't see what the fans see every week regarding Vale. He's a striker; play him beside Bair. It's that simple. Although I bet he starts Nicholson instead of Moses next week. 

It's time for a new keeper next season. For a team like ours, I’d rather have a big commanding keeper than a smaller shot-stopper.  

I'm pleased to see that Kettlewell isn't afraid to call out the officials on this incident. However, it’s a shame he's not as quick to learn from his own persistent failings, as perhaps that would give some indication that he's capable of implementing effective changes across the piece. 

With Vale that has been my main gripe for weeks.  He is a striker so why are we playing him in deeper role?  Bair is isolated on his own.  I also agree that guaranteed he starts Nicholson but I would hope he started in place of Spittal and we bring Moses in for Vale.  Or bring Shaw in for Vale......cueeeeeeeee......ba.......boom....🤣🤣🤣

[steelboy]

Looks like a red card from this angle. 

[robsterwood]

20 hours ago, AllyMax said:

Heard a rumour that Kettlewell told the players to make sure they lost the game today so that four absolute wankers could have an evening of bitching on an internet forum. After four games without a defeat, they might not have survived another.

That's a bit harsh. People on here are allowed an opinion whether you agree with it or not. It's a democracy. There's no need to be verbally abusive to others if they disagree with your opinion. Its Motherwell FC forum. Not "happy clapper" forum. Whether opinions are positive, overtly negative or balanced, they should all be allowed to be heard and respected.

[bobbybingo]

1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

That's a bit harsh. People on here are allowed an opinion whether you agree with it or not. It's a democracy. There's no need to be verbally abusive to others if they disagree with your opinion. Its Motherwell FC forum. Not "happy clapper" forum. Whether opinions are positive, overtly negative or balanced, they should all be allowed to be heard and respected.

You might want to have a word with at least one of the 'absolute wankers' about being a bit harsh or verbally abusive to others. Although, in fairness, he can take it as well as he dishes it out.

[Well Well]

2 hours ago, robsterwood said:

and respected.

Yeah you have gone too far with that bit

[santheman]

4 hours ago, robsterwood said:

That's a bit harsh. People on here are allowed an opinion whether you agree with it or not. It's a democracy. There's no need to be verbally abusive to others if they disagree with your opinion. Its Motherwell FC forum. Not "happy clapper" forum. Whether opinions are positive, overtly negative or balanced, they should all be allowed to be heard and respected.

Fair enough, everyones entitled to their view but when it's constant and never ending criticism something that's a minor irritant eventually becomes really annoying so I can understand why people rise to the bait.

 

[robsterwood]

4 hours ago, bobbybingo said:

You might want to have a word with at least one of the 'absolute wankers' about being a bit harsh or verbally abusive to others. Although, in fairness, he can take it as well as he dishes it out.

2 wrongs don't make a right though.🤔

[wellfan97]

3 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Apparently Bevis to Dundee utd is the next rumour. I wouldn't lose sleep over that to be fair 

Think now's a good time to move on from him I think we can get better than him he's a very nice guy but not that convinced on his ability to defend. and hopefully does his usual bombscare when we play them next season.

[Spiderpig]

6 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Apparently Bevis to Dundee utd is the next rumour. I wouldn't lose sleep over that to be fair 

Me neither he can be really good but he's a potential bomb scare at times guaranteed at least one or two mistakes every game.

[mfc]

We've reached the point with bevis where it will benefit both parties if he moves on,he's never really improved while he's been here and been a bit of a liability the whole way through.we need as much funds freed up to bring some defenders in and bevis leaving would be a good start.

[weeyin]

Casey has been more of a defensive liability overall this season than Bevis.

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, weeyin said:

Casey has been more of a defensive liability overall this season than Bevis.

I agree that Casey has had his moments but Bevis just gives the fear every time he is on the ball.  An absolute gem of a guy and always welcome at fir park but time to move on

[santheman]

53 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Me neither he can be really good but he's a potential bomb scare at times guaranteed at least one or two mistakes every game.

Brilliant at heading the ball away but you look through your fingers when it's at his feet.

[weeyin]

4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I agree that Casey has had his moments but Bevis just gives the fear every time he is on the ball.  An absolute gem of a guy and always welcome at fir park but time to move on

I don't care as much what a defender is like on the ball, I need them to be able to defend. That involves marking the right man, compressing space, covering team mates, attacking the ball etc.

I've lost count of the number of times this season that Casey has lost his man (or been nowhere near him) and been responsible for conceding a soft goal. He gets less stick from fans because he runs about a lot and makes faces, but his actual defending skills are pretty limited.

[weeyin]

5 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I agree that Casey has had his moments but Bevis just gives the fear every time he is on the ball.  An absolute gem of a guy and always welcome at fir park but time to move on

And Casey gives me the fear any time the opposition swings in a cross because there's a fair chance he'll be out of position.

[weeyin]

4 minutes ago, santheman said:

Brilliant at heading the ball away but you look through your fingers when it's at his feet.

Given how many teams we play against that launch balls into the box, it's not a bad talent to have. I've said it for years now, that as long as he just keeps his passes short and simple he's worth his place in the team based on his aerial presence.

[David]

14 hours ago, wellfan said:

It baffles me that Kettlewell can't see what the fans see every week regarding Vale.

Kettlewell doesn't see what the fans see, and that's a good thing. Because, for the most part, the fans know hee-haw about managing a football team. 

There's a reason why he's being paid to sit in the dugout while we're paying to sit in the stands. 

[steelboy]

I think we will struggle to replace Mugabi and if you look he's started in 6/8 of our wins plus the games we have defended well at Ibrox, Celtic Park and Easter Road.

I'm not going to miss reading the lazy stereotypes of "nice guy but has a mistake in him". SOD, McGinn and Casey all have far more mistakes this season. As for why he's so much nicer than Shane Blaney or Barry Maguire I'll leave that to the psychiatrists.....