Motherwell v Celtic 28/10/2024

[Kmcalpin]

24 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Wednesday could be tough with Gordon and probably Kaleta both out. But saw enough today to feel positively about the semi final on Sunday......

Football is all about opinions. Its funny, I think Wednesday's game is more important to us than next Sunday's. I'd rather Gordon's suspension finished next weekend. We'll miss him against St Johnstone. For me, the semi is all about how much cash we can earn. Teams are now beginning to suss us out and we have no Plan B. Tie up our wing backs and Lennon Miller and they're guaranteed a draw at the worst.

[joewarkfanclub]

9 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Football is all about opinions. Its funny, I think Wednesday's game is more important to us than next Sunday's. I'd rather Gordon's suspension finished next weekend. We'll miss him against St Johnstone. For me, the semi is all about how much cash we can earn. Teams are now beginning to suss us out and we have no Plan B. Tie up our wing backs and Lennon Miller and they're guaranteed a draw at the worst.

Sorry, but Im 55 years old and we have been in 5 cup finals in that time.

Sunday is a chance to get to another one.

The League Cup is also one of only 2 competitions we will ever have a realistic chance of winning.

So Sunday is the bigger game for me by a country mile.

Not saying the extra money isnt welcome, particularly after the summer we had, but we all go to the football for the memories. Cup semis and finals provide pretty big ones.

Also, Aberdeen might just surprise us and give us a punchers chance in the final!

[joewarkfanclub]

I should probably qualify my last post.

Im not saying I dont care about the game and we shouldnt try to get something from it.

I dont think we are sending the youth team up to play it and resting everyone.

But there will be enough enforced changes and we have enough squad players to rotate a fair few of them.

Tell some players that there are semi final places up for grabs. Go take one. 

[MJC]

Respect everyone’s opinions but for me the Semi Final is the bigger game out of the next two by some distance. If I was offered a choice between winning against Dundee Utd and winning the Semi Final then I’d pick the Semi every single time. We’ve got a chance to get to a Cup Final, they don’t come around very often atall. 

[Kmcalpin]

Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to Sunday and it'll be a big occasion for us. We've got a fighter's chance, of course, but I'm not overly optimistic and my expectations are limited.

I agree about squad rotation but options in midfield and up front are very limited.   

[steelman1991]

12 hours ago, Richie said:

He essentially hit the free kick to himself.

No-one else touched the ball between  him hitting it and it rebounding back to him.

 

12 hours ago, ropy said:

It’s the same as hitting a penalty off the post, you can’t play it again, someone else has to touch it.

Sorry - guys total brain fart - thanks for confirming.

[Richie]

Was a typical shoulda woulda, coulda game against the OF.

Came close a few times, they scored and then we allowed them to dictate/run at us.

Saw the highlights of the Rangers v St Mirren game - Made very heavy weather of it and the win perhaps masked the performance.

Certainly have it in us to beat them, but then alot of it is down to the whole, crowd/officiating/break of the ball thing again.

[Orinoco]

Usual post match comments after yet another defeat from either celtic or rangers. We were competitive upto a point and given the huge and widening financial gulf that's as much as we can expect bar the odd fluke. The media and some of our fans need a reality check reset.

Poorer Rangers teams have beaten good Motherwell teams. We will need alot of things to align to get a result and fluke it.

 

[Spiderpig]

1 hour ago, Orinoco said:

Usual post match comments after yet another defeat from either celtic or rangers. We were competitive upto a point and given the huge and widening financial gulf that's as much as we can expect bar the odd fluke. The media and some of our fans need a reality check reset.

Poorer Rangers teams have beaten good Motherwell teams. We will need alot of things to align to get a result and fluke it.

 

Spot on, the simple fact re yesterday was we never took the chances we had and were beaten by a team light years better than ours. Our season will be judged on the results against the other 9 teams not the ugly sisters.

[texanwellfan]

4 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I should probably qualify my last post.

Im not saying I dont care about the game and we shouldnt try to get something from it.

I dont think we are sending the youth team up to play it and resting everyone.

But there will be enough enforced changes and we have enough squad players to rotate a fair few of them.

Tell some players that there are semi final places up for grabs. Go take one. 

I think everyone wants to win both games  but as you say, winning a semi v rangers to get to a final lingers a lot more in your memory than a league win at Tannadice. 
you loose the semi then we are out, no final. Loose to Utd we have most of the season to recover from that. Let’s hope we beat both of them! COYW! 

[FirParkCornerExile]

5 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to Sunday and it'll be a big occasion for us. We've got a fighter's chance, of course, but I'm not overly optimistic and my expectations are limited.

I agree about squad rotation but options in midfield and up front are very limited.   

Agreed, SK will set out to stifle them for 70 mins and have a go if we are still in it at that point. However we are likely to be 2-0 down before that point. Big difference Rangers are pish in relation to Celtic but we are unlikely to capitalise on it. 

 

Anyone know if the scum supporters of Celtic managed to leave the ground intact this time.

[Orinoco]

SKs loyality to certain players will cost him in the end. Teams need to evolve, if only to keep your opponents guessing.

If we don't have the technical abilities to pass and keep the ball, we need to be more physical and pace to get about the pitch.

[SteelmaninOZ]

 

 

[joewarkfanclub]

17 hours ago, Orinoco said:

SKs loyality to certain players will cost him in the end. Teams need to evolve, if only to keep your opponents guessing.

If we don't have the technical abilities to pass and keep the ball, we need to be more physical and pace to get about the pitch.

Its a difficult one.

His loyalty to players is how he always manages to keep the dressing room, regardless of performance or results.

I agree the team needs to evolve and I have no doubt SK knows that. But its a much harder thing to do in practice and he certainly wont be saying it out loud.

I actually thought Saturdays team selection was a veiled admission of our weaknesses.

Putting Kaleta and Sparrow in provided much greater drive and energy into the team and dropping Robinson for Stama gave us more of an out ball quite simply down to the number of duals he won compared to Robinson.

Ultimately it still wasnt enough, but until Paton, Slattery and Nicholson are fit SK is going to be left tinkering around the edges.

I do expect to see Maswanhise or Tavares get a run out tomorrow night though.

[texanwellfan]

I thought we played better against Celtic than Dundee. As mentioned above I think Kaleta, Sparrow and AP showed up well enough to merit a starting position in future games. Now we just need SK to shift Miller back a bit and find a partner for AP. Or a midfield that will support and create chances for AP. Moses has shown that he can score but again we need to create the chances for him. There’s a decent team to be had from our squad but SK needs to figure out what that is and if we go with it for all games or so we change depending on who the opposition are. To be honest I’m not sure what our best team/set up is but then again I haven’t put much thought into it

[Ya Bezzer!]

Was anything made about the massive overcrowding in the South Stand during this game?

Not for the first time when hosting Celtic.

You'd think this kind of very serious safety issue would be a topic for discussion but I've not seen anything, although to be fair I've not been online much recently.

[joewarkfanclub]

6 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Was anything made about the massive overcrowding in the South Stand during this game?

Not for the first time when hosting Celtic.

You'd think this kind of very serious safety issue would be a topic for discussion but I've not seen anything, although to be fair I've not been online much recently.

Steelboy raised it in the CEO monthly chat thread. Got a reply from Brian Caldwell claiming there was no overcrowding, merely migration from top tier. Followed by some debate questioning how that could be the case when it appeared visibly to the contrary. The thread then turned into another binfire.

[Ya Bezzer!]

1 minute ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Steelboy raised it in the CEO monthly chat thread. Got a reply from Brian Caldwell claiming there was no overcrowding, merely migration from top tier. Followed by some debate questioning how that could be the case when it appeared visibly to the contrary. The thread then turned into another binfire.

Even if that was the case surely exits have to be kept clear?

I'll take a look at the thread.

[Orinoco]

Seems killie are having same crowd control issues in their stand. Stairs no where to be seen. 

[grizzlyg]

2 hours ago, Orinoco said:

 

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[wellfan]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

Absolutely horrible support, total disrespect yet again for remembrance day. No doubt hee haw apology from the club. Fair play to Rodgers for wearing a poppy

Lest we forget, but let’s sell arms.

People should be able to express themselves, either way. Just like Casey who didn’t wear a poppy on Saturday.  

[MJC]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

Absolutely horrible support, total disrespect yet again for remembrance day. No doubt hee haw apology from the club. Fair play to Rodgers for wearing a poppy

But, but b b b b b b b b b b b b b but, but!……Rangers fans are every bit as bad if not worse! Come on now! You’ll be giving people strong suspicions that Rangers are the big team you really support with talk like that.*

The Old Firm are just as bad as each other (well Rangers are worse, it’s okay to say that) but you can’t say anything about Celtic unless you qualify it by saying that you hate Rangers equally or more.

 

 

*I’m being sarcastic and having a veiled dig at those who would genuinely come out with nonsense like that. 

[MJC]

3 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Lest we forget, but let’s sell arms.

People should be able to express themselves, either way. Just like Casey who didn’t wear a poppy on Saturday.  

Of course, it’s a personal choice. Wear one, don’t wear one, that’s nobody’s business except the individual concerned. 
 

But it’s the nasty, aggressive and confrontational tone that the Celtic support take that gets people’s backs up about this. And people would be more accepting of this, I think anyway, if they weren’t so downright hypocritical and sanctimonious about the aggressive “anti-poppy/British/establishment” position that they like to use.

Celtic and their support love to shove their agendas in everyone else’s faces and scream and whinge about “free speech” when anyone challenges them but they don’t want to afford the same right to anyone who has an opinion which goes against their narrative. 

[weeyin]

The irony of the whole poppy debacle these days is that while the Royal British Legion is very vocal about everyone choosing to do what they want, it has been turned into a political game by the populists who love freedom so much they want to make you wear what they want you to wear, and only say what they agree with.

[grizzlyg]

I will just stick to telling bad jokes. Didn't realise criticising sellik supporters wasn't allowed.

Yet we won a game of football yesterday and I had to read all the negativity despite fact we are 5th in the league