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St Johnstone V Motherwell 18/01/2025: Scottish Cup


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33 minutes ago, David said:

That’s why I specifically mentioned forums “like this one” and not just this one in isolation. I genuinely believe that the opinions expressed across both platforms give us a fairly accurate reflection of what our wider fanbase is thinking—particularly now that some of the more obvious trolls have been put on moderation.

Of course, we can’t be entirely certain, as there’s no definitive way to prove it. It’s simply my perspective.

There are quite a few who post on both forums, you and me included, and - in my perspective - both forums are a bit different. I enjoy them both, but in different ways. The prevailing wisdom on P&B is this is largely due to the difference between a single-team forum and a multi-team forum. On P&B you are pretty much forced to interact with supporters of other teams, whether you like it or not. This moderates the behaviour of some posters, and makes others worse, but it definitely changes the overall dynamic.

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2 hours ago, David said:

That’s why I specifically mentioned forums “like this one” and not just this one in isolation. I genuinely believe that the opinions expressed across both platforms give us a fairly accurate reflection of what our wider fanbase is thinking—particularly now that some of the more obvious trolls have been put on moderation.

Of course, we can’t be entirely certain, as there’s no definitive way to prove it. It’s simply my perspective.

Just like real life, people posting on the internet are not a proper real representation of everyones views , just a small % of people that can be arsed posting or using the internet and are happy to broadcast their general opinions to the world. The majority who don’t views could be totally different. I would suggest there is a very large majority that dont put their views across online because they are busy doing other stuff. No way anything on internet can be taken as a representation of everyone ,it would be wrong to suggest so. Look at the Trump election , if you believed the internet , poles and forums he was going to get beat or at best run close . Look how that turned out in reality. 

Read forums , post stuff and argue but can’t be taken as an actual representation of everyones views, I don’t think.
 

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9 minutes ago, stv said:

Just like real life, people posting on the internet are not a proper real representation of everyones views , just a small % of people that can be arsed posting or using the internet and are happy to broadcast their general opinions to the world. The majority who don’t views could be totally different. I would suggest there is a very large majority that dont put their views across online because they are busy doing other stuff. No way anything on internet can be taken as a representation of everyone ,it would be wrong to suggest so. Look at the Trump election , if you believed the internet , poles and forums he was going to get beat or at best run close . Look how that turned out in reality. 

Read forums , post stuff and argue but can’t be taken as an actual representation of everyones views, I don’t think.

I think the situation with Trump was quite different, as it centred around social media and the algorithms that amplify the echo chamber effect. If you’re on X, for instance, and you’re a Democrat reading and sharing views aligned with your beliefs, the platform feeds you similar content. It’s easy to start thinking that what you’re seeing reflects a broader societal perspective.

What I’m saying is that across both forums, you get a fairly decent snapshot of the fanbase as a whole. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that the majority of fans are feeling a bit fed up with how we’re playing at the moment, for a variety of reasons. That said, most people seem to acknowledge we’re in a relatively good position and hold out hope that things will improve. Meanwhile, a vocal minority with a more negative outlook tends to get more attention than their numbers would suggest.

Wouldn’t that description also fit the three stands at Fir Park during any given home game right now?

I’m not claiming that every Motherwell fan is active on a forum, but the small sample size does seem to reflect what we’re seeing from the wider fanbase. What I’ve described isn’t far off what I think the majority of supporters are feeling at the moment—or at least, that’s my impression. Unless, of course, I’ve completely missed the mark.

In any case, it’s not that big of a deal. Just more of an observation than anything else.

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