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I know I'm just throwing hypotheticals around here, but that's what happens when the season is finished.

Would we tolerate a season like Spurs if we lost 21 games, but won the Scottish Cup?

I 100% agree that it's a lot of fun going to grounds you've never visited before and find it sad a lot of the places we were able to visit when we were in the First Division have long since gone.

Of course, I'd be delighted if we won another piece of silverware. I'm lucky, however, to have been at Hampden in 1991. I also watched us win the old First Division twice which, while not quite as prestigious, was still a great experience - in particular because it meant we won a shed load of games along the way.

I'm not worried about the European place awarded when you finish 2nd or 3rd in the league, I'm more interested in the number of games won to achieve it. One of the most enjoyable seasons in recent memory was when we pipped Aberdeen to 2nd place with the last kick of the ball at Pittodrie - the same season that Albion Rovers knocked us out the cup. Would I swap that for a Cup Win and finishing 9th? Not sure.

 

 

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Every Motherwell fan still alive has only ever seen us win at most 3 cups, league cup in 1950 and Scottish cup in 1952, & 1991, and for the vast majority it will only be 1. Is that record vastly different for any other club in the league apart from The ugly sisters and Aberdeen.

In Scotland only the uglies win trophies on a regular basis, the rest of us have to wait for a win every 35 to 40 years etc for a special season.

We've had 4 major finals since 1991, 2 league cup in 2005, 2018 and 2 Scottish cup in 2011 and 2018 and faced Celtic 3 tines and lost them all and Rangers once again losing.

All this chat about other clubs winning cups etc is nonsense, it took Hibs over 100 years to win one ffs, St J had a special season won 2 trophies but never played either of the ugly sisters in doing so, as is the case for most of the other winners.

So in my lifetime I've been at 5 cup finals supporting Motherwell, 4 of them defeats against the best teams in the country, and 1 win our special season in 1991. So for a club of our size our record in major trophies is is decent. And I suspect if a comparison was done against the other teams, uglies excepted re finals reached, games won etc we would be high on the list.

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2 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Every Motherwell fan still alive has only ever seen us win at most 3 cups, league cup in 1950 and Scottish cup in 1952, & 1991, and for the vast majority it will only be 1. Is that record vastly different for any other club in the league apart from The ugly sisters and Aberdeen.

In Scotland only the uglies win trophies on a regular basis, the rest of us have to wait for a win every 35 to 40 years etc for a special season.

We've had 4 major finals since 1991, 2 league cup in 2005, 2018 and 2 Scottish cup in 2011 and 2018 and faced Celtic 3 tines and lost them all and Rangers once again losing.

All this chat about other clubs winning cups etc is nonsense, it took Hibs over 100 years to win one ffs, St J had a special season won 2 trophies but never played either of the ugly sisters in doing so, as is the case for most of the other winners.

So in my lifetime I've been at 5 cup finals supporting Motherwell, 4 of them defeats against the best teams in the country, and 1 win our special season in 1991. So for a club of our size our record in major trophies is is decent. And I suspect if a comparison was done against the other teams, uglies excepted re finals reached, games won etc we would be high on the list.

If everyone had the luck Aberdeen have had to win this seasons cup we'd all have a few trophies in our lifetime 😂😂

Draw 

Elgin City

Dunfermline

Queens Park

Hearts 

And the Celtic Keeper throws the ball in the net for them yesterday. 

 

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You do need a huge slice of luck to win any trophy, regardless of how good you are.

We had plenty along the way to our victory, and if after failing to beat Morton home and away, we had lost the penalty shootout at Cappielow, it would have just been another average cup run.

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1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Staggies relegated.  Fair play to livi ...honking pitch but deserved it.   I would move for Ronan Hale

Just going to say the same, he’s a better forward than what we have just now.

Gutted that we have to watch games on 3 plastic hazard parks next season. Utter joke of a league 

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3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Staggies relegated.  Fair play to livi ...honking pitch but deserved it.   I would move for Ronan Hale

My son just messaged me and said the same thing.

 

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On 5/25/2025 at 4:33 PM, weeyin said:

You do need a huge slice of luck to win any trophy, regardless of how good you are.

We had plenty along the way to our victory, and if after failing to beat Morton home and away, we had lost the penalty shootout at Cappielow, it would have just been another average cup run.

Oh agreed you need luck but fuck me I've never seen any club Win the cup with the draw and luck Aberdeen had. Aberdeen were god awful in the final but Celtic give them a goal theyd never score through their own efforts.

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21 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Oh agreed you need luck but fuck me I've never seen any club Win the cup with the draw and luck Aberdeen had. Aberdeen were god awful in the final but Celtic give them a goal theyd never score through their own efforts.

We'll always have Darvel :lol:

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42 minutes ago, thewelllfan said:

Hale's under contract their for 2 more years, so unless we're going to stump up the 300-400K they'll want or he has a relegation release clause for less than that we won't get him but he's a quality player.

Perhaps we sell Lennon Miller for 10 times that amount and take a punt on Hale, offering him four years so that we might even sell him on.

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1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Oh agreed you need luck but fuck me I've never seen any club Win the cup with the draw and luck Aberdeen had. Aberdeen were god awful in the final but Celtic give them a goal theyd never score through their own efforts.

Also true, but if we hadn't lost to teams like Queens Park, Albion Rovers and Clyde in the early rounds of cup competitions, we also might have had easy draws all the way to the final.

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12 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Oh agreed you need luck but fuck me I've never seen any club Win the cup with the draw and luck Aberdeen had. Aberdeen were god awful in the final but Celtic give them a goal theyd never score through their own efforts.

Good teams win league titles, its lucky teams who win cups, for me i would not care if we had an easy draw to the final then be gifted an OG to help us win.

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13 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Oh agreed you need luck but fuck me I've never seen any club Win the cup with the draw and luck Aberdeen had. Aberdeen were god awful in the final but Celtic give them a goal theyd never score through their own efforts.

Aberdeen played the game to negate Celtic and did it well,limiting them to very few chances. I was delighted for them

Teams like hearts, Aberdeen,  rangers should be playing a bit smarter with their resources to give Celtic more of a challenge. 

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2 minutes ago, thewelllfan said:

Hope he does well but signing players with no manager makes no sense to me.

Wimmer instigated the deal before he buggered off.

It would also be nice for a current squad update before the club starts announcing additions to the squad for next season. Or is that too much to ask for? 
 

 

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