stv Posted yesterday at 08:49 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:49 AM 38 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said: Paton likely to end up at Killie? Only if he likes the feel of plastic on his knees and regular injurys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted yesterday at 08:52 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:52 AM I'd keep Casey too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM What a stange and underwhelming list. I've no problems with those being released. However, the "under discussion" list is lengthy and downright odd. I've no problem with discussing terms with Casey, but the others? If we're wanting to clear the decks and freshen the squad up? I get that the managerial situation complicates matters just now but the term "We remain in dialogue with all remaining players, whose personal circumstances are all different." Seems a bit odd. Does that mean option clauses could kick in?" No mention of Matty Connelly who I think is also out of contract and we have 3 signed keeprs already. Pleased that Olly Whyte and Mikey Booth have signed new deals, as they seem highly rated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM 21 minutes ago, robsterwood said: Would keep Dom Thompson and Seddon. They both shown enough for me We can't keep both,at this rate there is going to be very little room for improving our god awful defence and it's unbelievable if we're actually trying to keep davor and paton on again,there two bang average players that will take up funds in an area that's almost as bad as our defence is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 09:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:35 AM 38 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: What a stange and underwhelming list. I've no problems with those being released. However, the "under discussion" list is lengthy and downright odd. I've no problem with discussing terms with Casey, but the others? If we're wanting to clear the decks and freshen the squad up? I get that the managerial situation complicates matters just now but the term "We remain in dialogue with all remaining players, whose personal circumstances are all different." seems a bit odd. Does that mean option clauses could kick in?" No mdention of Matty Connelly who I thionk is also out of contract and we have 3 signed keeprs already. Pleased that Olly Whyte and Mikey Booth have signed new deals, as they seem highly rated. Yeh, the under discussion list is concerning and leaves little room for improving the squad should they all accept new deals. We could potentially find ourselves in the position of the new manager having to accept last year’s stale turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 09:36 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:36 AM I agree that with 21 players already signed for next season we cant really afford to be signing on the remaining 6 OOC players. From those listed you could make a case for Seddon, who can cover a few positions, Casey who is a known quantity and if he doesnt sign on again we have to replace, and maybe Moses as he will be cheap and seems happy enough with cameos from the bench. But given our dearth of available talent up front, I think we will need an upgrade on him. With Robinson, Nicholson and Stuparevic all long term injuries, we still probably need 5 additional bodies all of whom need to be better than what we have to push some current players down the pecking order to become squad players. Thompson is a no for me. He is athletic enough to do well but his passing accuracy is horrendous and his positional discipline suspect. Davor and Paton are squad fillers so they kinda need to go as well so we can upgrade in midfield. I also think we still need to move on some of the contracted players. Unfortunately 3 of those Id choose are the long term injured who will be going nowhere until they have recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 09:46 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:46 AM The optimism I had for a rejuvenated squad for next season has basically evaporated with the departure of Wimmer and that underwhelming GTF list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted yesterday at 10:00 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:00 AM 12 minutes ago, wellfan said: The optimism I had for a rejuvenated squad for next season has basically evaporated with the departure of Wimmer and that underwhelming GTF list. Agreed and probably the reason for the "early bird" extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted yesterday at 10:14 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:14 AM 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: What a stange and underwhelming list. I've no problems with those being released. However, the "under discussion" list is lengthy and downright odd. I've no problem with discussing terms with Casey, but the others? If we're wanting to clear the decks and freshen the squad up? I get that the managerial situation complicates matters just now but the term "We remain in dialogue with all remaining players, whose personal circumstances are all different." Seems a bit odd. Does that mean option clauses could kick in?" No mention of Matty Connelly who I think is also out of contract and we have 3 signed keeprs already. Pleased that Olly Whyte and Mikey Booth have signed new deals, as they seem highly rated. I go on the premise that ""under discussion with" doesn't equate to "offered terms to". At least I hope not but it is a strange statement albeit under strange circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM 12 minutes ago, steelman1991 said: Agreed and probably the reason for the "early bird" extension. Yep. If the new Chairman’s message is for fans to ‘stick with the club’ then perhaps he should listen to the fans desire to cut the bloated squad accumulated by Kettlewell and the previous Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 10:31 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:31 AM 1 hour ago, stv said: Casey if agreeable always gives 100% and scores a few. No thanks. We need to rebuild that central defence with players that don't keep drifting out of position, don't keep losing their man and don't keep giving the ball away. Giving 100% is the bare minimum I expect from anyone in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 10:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:35 AM 17 minutes ago, wellfan said: Yep. If the new Chairman’s message is for fans to ‘stick with the club’ then perhaps he should listen to the fans desire to cut the bloated squad accumulated by Kettlewell and the previous Board. If the Board listened to the fans, we'd still be in the Championship after Tommy Wright was hired a couple of vacancies ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted yesterday at 10:43 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:43 AM 2 hours ago, Yabba's Turd said: Paton likely to end up at Killie? Here's hoping. Seddon, Casey and, at a push, Ebiye are the only ones we should be considering keeping on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM 20 minutes ago, weeyin said: No thanks. We need to rebuild that central defence with players that don't keep drifting out of position, don't keep losing their man and don't keep giving the ball away. Giving 100% is the bare minimum I expect from anyone in the squad. I dont disagree with any of that and if Casey moves on I wont be devestated. But there is always a risk with new signings. Moving Mugabi on and getting Balmer and Gordon in didnt stop us losing goals. Sometimes a known quantity you can coach to improve isnt the worst option. (I also get Casey has been here a while now and still switches off). Blaney is gone. But Id rather move Balmer on than Casey. Albeit that is a more difficult thing to do when one is under contract and the other looks like he wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 10:58 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:58 AM 21 on list all under contract. It's the ones being discussed that we need to watch. Made my opinions clear before but no way should Thompson get a deal. Also davor been great and showed lot of love to club but time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted yesterday at 11:14 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:14 AM 1 hour ago, mfc said: We can't keep both,at this rate there is going to be very little room for improving our god awful defence and it's unbelievable if we're actually trying to keep davor and paton on again,there two bang average players that will take up funds in an area that's almost as bad as our defence is. Don't mind paton, if davor gets a new deal, I despair and relegation beckons( I'm not being recruited to sell season tickets this year gor some reason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andalg Posted yesterday at 11:16 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:16 AM 16 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: 21 on list all under contract. It's the ones being discussed that we need to watch. Made my opinions clear before but no way should Thompson get a deal. Also davor been great and showed lot of love to club but time to move on. Maybe SK will swoop for our out of contract ones and solve our problem for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted yesterday at 11:17 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:17 AM 16 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: 21 on list all under contract. It's the ones being discussed that we need to watch. Made my opinions clear before but no way should Thompson get a deal. Also davor been great and showed lot of love to club but time to move on. No sure what uou mean by showed " a lot of love" and he's not suited for scottish professional football , so hasn't been close to great. Thompson, again, I don't mind, but if it's between him and seddon, I'd probably go for seddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted yesterday at 11:23 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:23 AM 4 minutes ago, wellon said: Thompson, again, I don't mind, but if it's between him and seddon, I'd probably go for seddon In a choice between Seddon or Thompson, Thompson should be 3rd on the list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted yesterday at 11:41 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:41 AM I didn’t really get the dislike of Thompson. I thought he was doing a good job for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted yesterday at 11:46 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:46 AM 2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: What a stange and underwhelming list. I've no problems with those being released. However, the "under discussion" list is lengthy and downright odd. I've no problem with discussing terms with Casey, but the others? If we're wanting to clear the decks and freshen the squad up? I get that the managerial situation complicates matters just now but the term "We remain in dialogue with all remaining players, whose personal circumstances are all different." Seems a bit odd. Does that mean option clauses could kick in?" No mention of Matty Connelly who I think is also out of contract and we have 3 signed keeprs already. Pleased that Olly Whyte and Mikey Booth have signed new deals, as they seem highly rated. We are obviously short of a skilled arm wavers and pointers for the middle of the park as Davor isnt on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 11:48 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:48 AM 30 minutes ago, wellon said: No sure what uou mean by showed " a lot of love" and he's not suited for scottish professional football , so hasn't been close to great. Thompson, again, I don't mind, but if it's between him and seddon, I'd probably go for seddon I just mean I loved his enthusiasm. Seddon for me. Apart from putting in 2 decent crosses Thompson hasn't impressed me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 11:55 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:55 AM 1 hour ago, weeyin said: If the Board listened to the fans, we'd still be in the Championship after Tommy Wright was hired a couple of vacancies ago. I’m taking about the new Board and the new Chairman’s plea to fans. The previous Board never listened to the fans and look where that got them. I also imagine it was only a handful of fans and the compliant media calling for Wright to get the gig a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 11:58 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:58 AM 16 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: I didn’t really get the dislike of Thompson. I thought he was doing a good job for us. Howdy pal !!!, I don't dislike the guy. I just don't rate him. Think we can do a lot better in that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM 5 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Howdy pal !!!, I don't dislike the guy. I just don't rate him. Think we can do a lot better in that position He was fine going forward but defensively very shaky, positional sense all over the place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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