fizoxy Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 There was a short clip of him in the intro video where he tells Askou "a couple of weeks". Not sure if that's when he's due back, or how long it's been since his last haircut now that his permacrock pal has left . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, fizoxy said: There was a short clip of him in the intro video where he tells Askou "a couple of weeks". Not sure if that's when he's due back, or how long it's been since his last haircut now that his permacrock pal has left . He was probably just saying it’s another couple of weeks before his chocolate knees give out again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, wellfan said: Unless he needs his wrist to run or kick a ball, he should be fully recovered and fit for pre-season. I was interested in your previous last take on Stama - doubting ability, or the fact he wants to be here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 10 hours ago, wunderwell said: I was interested in your previous last take on Stama - doubting ability, or the fact he wants to be here? It’s not that I doubt his commitment or ability. I just don’t think he’s the big, commanding centre forward we need (e.g. Bair or KVV). That said, maybe JBA can get more out of him this season, especially if we play a 4-3-3 with proper wingers to support him. Still, I suspect the manager will look to bring in a more physically dominant striker. Ultimately, I can’t see Stama still being here by the third year of his contract, especially if this season mirrors the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, wellfan said: It’s not that I doubt his commitment or ability. I just don’t think he’s the big, commanding centre forward we need (e.g. Bair or KVV). That said, maybe JBA can get more out of him this season, especially if we play a 4-3-3 with proper wingers to support him. Still, I suspect the manager will look to bring in a more physically dominant striker. Ultimately, I can’t see Stama still being here by the third year of his contract, especially if this season mirrors the last. This 100%. If he is going to play then he needs a big physical guy to feed from. Of course, the formation we ultimately decide to play will also be a significant influence on that too. My concern is that Robinson and Stuparevic, both out long term, aren't that kind of player either. As it stands, he is our only out and out senior striker on our books. If he gets injured... No doubt JBA will aready have picked up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: This 100%. If he is going to play then he needs a big physical guy to feed from. Of course, the formation we ultimately decide to play will also be a significant influence on that too. My concern is that Robinson and Stuparevic, both out long term, aren't that kind of player either. As it stands, he is our only out and out senior striker on our books. If he gets injured... No doubt JBA will aready have picked up on that. Surely, with the incoming Miller millions, JBA will be backed to bring in a proven striker capable of 10–15 goals a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 31 minutes ago, wellfan said: Surely, with the incoming Miller millions, JBA will be backed to bring in a proven striker capable of 10–15 goals a season. I would think he'll be backed for that without the Miller millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 I think McGinn has been a good servant but I'd be concerned about a defence with a 33 year old O'Donnell and a 35 year old McGinn (October birthday) in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: I think McGinn has been a good servant but I'd be concerned about a defence with a 33 year old O'Donnell and a 35 year old McGinn (October birthday) in it. Agreed. As soon as O'Donnell's renewal clause kicked in, McGinn should have been shown the door... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 I would rather both had left,odonnell doesn't have the legs to play full back nowadays so we have shuffled him inside where he's an accident waiting to happen at centre half.mcginn has been a very solid player for us but it's asking a lot for him to come back in after missing nearly the whole of last season.were going to need back ups next season and that's the role they should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 47 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Disagree. Happy to keep them both. McGinn has been a very decent player for Motherwell. Don't see any reason to get rid of him Both are past 30. Both pretty experienced. Both previously right backs who probably don't have the legs for the modern attacking full back role. Both probably more suited to playing in a back three. Do we really need what is effectively two players filling the same role? Had I a choice of the two, I'd probably have renewed McGinn. But given O'Donnell renewed automatically, I'd have chosen to sacrifice McGinn in order to free up a salary for a younger defender with a bit more legs/energy/power.. But, hey, as it is they are both under contract now. I don't know how much value for money we'll get out of that fact, but not much we can do about it now.. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Putting the SOD and McGinn debate to one side, our biggest issue in recent seasons has been a leaky defence when playing with three centre-backs and wingbacks. At present, we’ve no natural wingbacks and only a few senior centre-backs. A switch to a back four is long overdue, and hopefully JBA makes that change. It might even resolve the SOD/McGinn dilemma in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: We could all argue about this for a year. Some people like SOD and some don't. Sod isn't going anywhere as far as I'm concerned and neither is McGinn but I'm sure there will be other signings coming in and it's up to the manager if they play or they don't When you become the manager you can then decide whether to keep the sod , but until then the Donnell detractors will have to grin and bear . I don't think this new manager will take too long to discover our weaknesses and the defence was the major problem in the season just ended and that included the sod on multiple occasions . And if you ever become the manager then God help us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan1996 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 6 hours ago, wellfan said: It’s not that I doubt his commitment or ability. I just don’t think he’s the big, commanding centre forward we need (e.g. Bair or KVV). That said, maybe JBA can get more out of him this season, especially if we play a 4-3-3 with proper wingers to support him. Still, I suspect the manager will look to bring in a more physically dominant striker. Ultimately, I can’t see Stama still being here by the third year of his contract, especially if this season mirrors the last. Your "proper wingers" are currently tawa and luca/stuparevic? and maybe if were lucky nicholson (do see him more as a bench warmer this season) I do however think that if stama does stay fit this season he will more than likely end up playing as a SS to whoever our main man upfront may be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 26 minutes ago, wellfan1996 said: Your "proper wingers" are currently tawa and luca/stuparevic? and maybe if were lucky nicholson (do see him more as a bench warmer this season) I do however think that if stama does stay fit this season he will more than likely end up playing as a SS to whoever our main man upfront may be Maswanhise definitely fits that mould on the left, but with this being Luca Ross’ first season in the first team and Nicholson likely set for another season on the physio table, we clearly need to bring in more attacking options. And you’re probably right about Stama being a second striker option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, wellfan1996 said: Your "proper wingers" are currently tawa and luca/stuparevic? and maybe if were lucky nicholson (do see him more as a bench warmer this season) I do however think that if stama does stay fit this season he will more than likely end up playing as a SS to whoever our main man upfront may be Pretty much agree with that although I'm not sure what kind of player Stuparevic is as I haven't seen him play much. Didn't have him down as a winger though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan1996 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Pretty much agree with that although I'm not sure what kind of player Stuparevic is as I haven't seen him play much. Didn't have him down as a winger though. From what i remember he seemed a bit small to be the striker wed be looking for but does have a bit of pace and decent dribbling about him which would make him the he'll do candidate til the manager brings someone more suited to the position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 It’s good to have different styles of strikers, or players for that matter. That was one of the things I really like when McAll was the manager. We had so many attacking weapons that defenses couldn’t nullify them all. Higdon, Ojamma, Humphrey, Law, Faddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 38 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: It’s good to have different styles of strikers, or players for that matter. That was one of the things I really like when McAll was the manager. We had so many attacking weapons that defenses couldn’t nullify them all. Higdon, Ojamma, Humphrey, Law, Faddy. Agreed. You need a good mix of strikers. From the little I've seen Stuparevic seems quite nippy but not particularly physical or tricky. A poor man's Jack Vale?? That said we haven't seen much of him to really assess his style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Stuparevic looked more like a number 10 when I watched him, albeit in a pretty limited number of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 According to Transfermarkt, this is Stuparević’s career so far: CF – 87 RW – 16 AM – 3 LW – 1 RM – 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Looks like Sylla has gone to Brunei, rather than to ML1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 There’s a rumour on Twitter that Wimbledon are interested in Sparrow. Feels unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 47 minutes ago, wellfan said: There’s a rumour on Twitter that Wimbledon are interested in Sparrow. Feels unlikely. This should probably be in the Ins and Outs thread but I wouldn't dismiss it. 22 years old, runs all day, 6 goals in 21 starts most of them at wing back. Someone may show an interest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, wellfan said: There’s a rumour on Twitter that Wimbledon are interested in Sparrow. Feels unlikely. Would prefer not to see him go right now when its clear Miller will be away. But I guess we cant be too sniffy about any reasonable offer that comes in for any of our players. Quite pleased that we have a few right now that could command a fee with Slattery and Maswanhise being the other 2 obvious ones. Not the Miller millions, but as a club this is our business model and we need to roll with it. The timing would make things a little trickier for the new manager though as he tries to assemble his squad for the new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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