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Motherwell v Falkirk 18/10/2025


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Loss against Livi and the shite will hit the fan and start spreading!Folk will start dwindling off again when we get sucked back down the bottom of the table.

We have next to no end product it's all well and fine having X amount of possession but we have nothing to show for it it's becoming predictable.

First half always decent and 2nd half  opposite teams management staff have us sussed quicker than a one piece jigsaw puzzle and we don't have an answer to combat it.

Very very enjoyable season football wise but it's off the charts frustrating.

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4 minutes ago, mio said:

I didn’t mention rangers

Okay.

47 minutes ago, mio said:

And to put the Tin lid on it, the wee saluting h*n got the winner.

 

So who were you referring to here then? 
 

 

I’m not going to hijack the thread by making it about this so this is the last I’ll say on this subject but like I’ve already said I don’t see how it is relevant who the player who scores against us supports or previously plays for.

Anyway, moving on.

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People need to calm down. As poor as today was, and it was very poor second half, I would say it's the first truly bad performance.. Have we dropped points in other games that we shouldn't have? Sure, but generally down to individual errors. Today entire team seemed off second half. 

Are there concerns? Sure. No cover for a player as key to the system as Longelo seems a huge oversight. The subs seem sometimes to not make sense. Watt was having (by some distance) his worst game for us yet Fadinger was taken off. 

Like I say, concerns but no need to panic. Looking at results in isolation, today was the first one that you'd say, unacceptable...

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As shite as it is that we are now sitting 9th in the league there is only 3 points to 3rd so it's going to be a tight league,in past seasons we've had a good striker and a good goalkeeper but the football was dire getting enough points to stay in the league,I just hope with this "silky" soccer we can scrape enough points to stay up again,it's a funny old game.

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10 minutes ago, johnny71 said:

As shite as it is that we are now sitting 9th in the league there is only 3 points to 3rd so it's going to be a tight league,in past seasons we've had a good striker and a good goalkeeper but the football was dire getting enough points to stay in the league,I just hope with this "silky" soccer we can scrape enough points to stay up again,it's a funny old game.

It’s definitely a tight league and this year in particular every side, including Celtic are beatable. I think we have one of the more talented squads in the league though and we do play good stuff. I honestly do not see us finishing in the bottom six. 

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Honestly in shock at that. First half may have been our best football yet. It was that good. We can blame VAR all we want but VAR didnt make the players not show up for the 2nd half!

Complete turnaround. No composure on the ball, no tight triangles, sitting back rather than hunting in packs. It was as if they believed their own hype at half time & went home. That will teach them!

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32 minutes ago, Big Stall said:

Honestly in shock at that. First half may have been our best football yet. It was that good. We can blame VAR all we want but VAR didnt make the players not show up for the 2nd half!

Complete turnaround. No composure on the ball, no tight triangles, sitting back rather than hunting in packs. It was as if they believed their own hype at half time & went home. That will teach them!

100% correct . I keep hearing people saying that the opposition tumbled to our style. I don't buy that. Sure 2nd half Falkirk tried to press us further up the park but we stopped doing what we've been good at in the 1st half. 

The entire team fell behind the ball and started defending on the edge of our own 18 yard box. If we had continued to play our passing game and not sat back we would have got space in the midfield, couple that to the fact our final ball is truly shocking.

This was no McGlynn masterclass we made life easy for them and in the end Falkirk got what they deserved. Losing Longello was a blow and the other substitutions didn't actually improve us. 

So frustrating.

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This was my first home game this season after recovering from an  operation and  having extra Saturday family commitments so I haven't commented on our team this season.

I was really impressed with our passing and movement in the first half and at times our play reminded me of the skilful Ancell Babes team I watched in my first years at Fir Park but I was nervous at half time because of our slender lead, although Falkirk looked all at sea and could only muster one corner in the first 45.

All John McGlynn  did in the second half  was to push his team  up and press us and we fell apart and I can't improve on Big Stall's analysis above. Our defence was so easy to unpick it reminded me of our  Alexander/Hammell/Kettlewell years as we succumbed passively  to late pressure and threw away the points.

What concerned me most was that  Jens Askou seemed devoid of a Plan B to combat Falkirk's  obvious counter measures and consequently there was no reaction as the game slipped away from us. So may of our attacks seemed to lack conviction when it came to pulling the trigger and there seemed to be a lack of fighting spirit and dig when things started to go against us.

Callum Hendry looked unfit and was blowing like a Beluga after 60 minutes and if he is our cover for Stama then we have real problems up front.

Our manager needs to react quickly to come up with some answers because it will be obvious to other teams if we can't adapt to changing circumstances in a game. If he doesn't, our chances of beating a physical and streetwise St Mirren in the LCSF will be slim and our league form will suffer further.

 

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I said at 1 0 that we needed a second goal because we simply cannot hold a 1 goal lead. It was proved correct (again). Pretty on the eye yes but not got the heart when things go bad. At 1 1 only one team was going to win. And it wasn't us.

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14 minutes ago, well_said said:

This weekend last year we lost at home to Dundee.  Think back to the shite we had to endure the shite tactics and players picked and signed by the bellend . I know whose team I would rather watch , win lose or draw.

That kind of talk is okay when we’re winning games but when we have one league win in eight attempts then it’s pretty hollow. 
 

As has been acknowledged we have some good players and can play some nice stuff but that counts for little if you don’t make it count and so far we haven’t. Even the one solitary league game that we did win only came about thanks to a goalkeeper error and a penalty all within injury time. 
 

I like alot of what I have seen so far this season but unfortunately we have fallen short more often than not when it comes to results and I remain far from convinced that this team and manager will be able to turn it around in the long run.

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Without wishing to state the obvious or be trite but it’s high time the manager realised that playing nice football and cutting teams to shreds is all very well but the object of the game is to score goals and concede less than you score. It’s now 1 win in 8 league games and that’s just not good enough. When we struggled to win games under the previous incumbent there were calls for him to be sacked.

I’m not for one minute saying that’s on the cards but the manager badly needs to start putting wins on the board as we have slipped into the danger zone, early as it is, but experience shows that teams who are down there by year-end, usually get relegated.

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First half an absolute joy to watch. The 2nd half the worst I’ve seen from us in the league this season. It’s a growing concern that we repeatedly don’t capitalise whilst on top and struggle to cope when momentum goes against us.

For all the praise we have received for our play, we have assembled the most technically gifted squad we’ve had in years. Yet I can’t tell whether we’re more likely to win the cup or get relegated this season. Maybe it’ll be both. 

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Struggling to remember two contrasting half's in a game, probably 2-0 up HT at home to Patrick in the 90's and losing 3-2 . 

Gutting to take nothing, should have been at least 2 or 3 up in the first half, not seen Said's "goal" back yet.

Was actually thinking we had a good chance if running up a score in the second half.

Worrying how easily we were picked open after half time and how poorly we respond to the opposition stepping things up.

Thought Ap Stam was unlucky with the hand ball, the way it came at him off Bain.

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38 minutes ago, El Grew said:

Without wishing to state the obvious or be trite but it’s high time the manager realised that playing nice football and cutting teams to shreds is all very well but the object of the game is to score goals and concede less than you score. It’s now 1 win in 8 league games and that’s just not good enough. When we struggled to win games under the previous incumbent there were calls for him to be sacked.

I’m not for one minute saying that’s on the cards but the manager badly needs to start putting wins on the board as we have slipped into the danger zone, early as it is, but experience shows that teams who are down there by year-end, usually get relegated.

Bloody hell. What a ridiculous take and unfortunately sums up social media fans.

If anyone thinks we r failing it is only because we see how good we can be.

All this talk of winning ugly etc only goes so far and you only have to look at last few years to see that and the eventuality.

This team has potential and it is only that to do something we haven't seen in years.

I am dismayed at response tonight. Some funny people about.

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To Be fair to Askou, he can't do much about individual errors.

Fadinger was ball watching and dropped off Arfield for the second.

We were a yard slow to press/stop crosses.

The heartening thing is that we are well in games and are getting up the park etc.

There is noone that has particularly dominated us.

You at least get the feeling that we could/should do something, whereas last year you couldn't see where a (chance at) goal was coming from at times.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, gaz7 said:

Bloody hell. What a ridiculous take and unfortunately sums up social media fans.

If anyone thinks we r failing it is only because we see how good we can be.

All this talk of winning ugly etc only goes so far and you only have to look at last few years to see that and the eventuality.

This team has potential and it is only that to do something we haven't seen in years.

I am dismayed at response tonight. Some funny people about.

Totally agree, that's why I said in my pre game predictions that this was an important game because I knew some fans are just waiting to declare "get this fancy football to fuck" and resort to the mind numbing shite of the last few years and sadly the defeat has brought some of that very reaction I was worried about.

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Also fully expect Willie Collum to come out and say VAR should not be getting involved in Said's goal.

It was nowhere near enough a material error for the ref to wave play on in the first instance and was the example of re-referring the game he was at pains to say shouldnt happen in his last VAR review.

I mean a subjective 'foul' on the halfway line, where the Falkirk player was nowhere near (in control of) the ball anyway 🤷‍♂️

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