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Cheers. Hope he makes a quick recovery
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Fingers crossed it's not white shorts. I detest Motherwell strips with white shorts.
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I'm not so sure it's down to him being unsettled, and more likely to be the one issue that saw him arrive at Fir Park in the first place. A lack of consistency. There's a lot of really good players out there, but the great players who make it at the top level tend to be more consistent than most. He was initially brought through the Leicester City academy, so he obviously turned some heads previously. But he was let go for a reason, and that reason is likely a lack of consistency. The talent is there, there's no doubt about that.
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What makes you say that, inside info?
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I would be dismayed if we sell any of our assets to either of the OF. Just in particular is a class act and Watt is a real find (shows you what the right coaching and man-management can do). Maswhanise I'm not so sure about because he may have found his ceiling, like Blair, and has done little since February, possibly because he has been unsettled by speculation. Even so, I could live with a transfer to the likes of Anderlecht for 2-3 million.
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James Furlong, Jack Vale and Ben Heneghan all at the PFA training camp for free agents.
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If just was a sellik player he would be valued at 25 million. I say to any interested clubs start the bidding at 7 million
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I’d prefer that we don’t sell all three but realistically it look like they will all go so my predictions are Just will go for between £5m - £6m (rumours say Celtic have offered £4m which I’d say is a low offer that others will better) Maswanhise £3.5m - £4.5m (rumours say Anderlecht have offered £3.5m but we’re holding out for £4m - £5m) Watt £2m - £2.5m (rumours say Samsunspor have made 2 bids that we’ve rejected and are looking for at least £1.75 to start talks - which I see as low) I’m expecting around £10m minimum for the 3 of them. edit: I was told by someone who has contacts within Ibrox that they wanted Watt and that £2m was their starting offer but with Rohl leaving things changed and McInnes didn’t see him as fitting into his style so the interest was dropped. Seem a bit crazy but you never know.
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Rumour that TJ sustained a broken jaw in last Saturday's friendly.
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Stay or Go - either way better to get sorted at pace - that way the we know the scale of recruitment. It's bitter sweet to see so many of our team attract this level of attention. I'd love more of the talk to be around who's arriving than leaving. Tomorrow I fully expect to see some of the new signings showing off the new kit.
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Perhaps going over old ground, but I'm not sure bidding wars in the context of transfer fees are much of a thing, at our level anyway. There will come a point where bid(s) are tabled which the Club finds acceptable. Any bidding war between clubs will be in terms of contract and wages. FWIW I think around £6m could just about be achievable, but it would also be the ceiling of what we could reasonably expect.
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They are in some leagues. The markets where we picked up Priestman, Watt and Just, not so much. I'm sure if we can get more, we will do that. The fact they still have long-ish contracts increases their value too.
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What you say is very true, but valuations are increasing at a stupid rate, stupidly quickly across europe. Scottish football should not be excluded from these rises just because what happened in the past. Our guys are under contract and extremely important part of the team cog.
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It's like Bargain Hunt. Need two or more interested buyers to start a bidding war. Ultimately, as David says, it's about what the market will pay. Many factors are in play there from the cost of comparable players to resale value. The World Cup helps raise profiles and interest which is why, if we are selling, we should take advantage of the uptick in publicity. Plus it's another success story we can point to when trying to sign new players. While 3 or 4 million might feel low, it's a pretty good return on investment financially and for what has done for us on the pitch. I'm sure the Board will have run the numbers and figured out what is reasonable. I remember Caldwell quoting all the stats for Miller comparing him to similar players in his age group, and I'm sure they will be doing the same for all or potential transfers out.
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Transfer fees aren’t really based on how highly supporters rate a player. They’re based on what the market is willing to pay, and historically clubs in Scotland outside Celtic and Rangers rarely command £6m fees unless you’re talking truly exceptional circumstances. Like a Lennon Miller. The World Cup definitely helps exposure, no doubt about it, but one tournament doesn’t automatically double a player’s value overnight. I think there’s a difference between saying he’s played at a £6m level and saying a club will actually pay £6m. Those aren’t always the same thing.
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I’m not saying we should expect 15m but I think 4M is on the low side.
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Wood has a much better track record than Just and played at a consistently higher level. When we signed him, Just had been on a season long loan to a 2nd division Austrian team. Which goes to show what great scouting combined with great coaching can do.
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I agree with most of what you say except the valuation. For me Just was the second best player in the league last season after Maeda and more consistent over the whole season. Plus he's just stood out at a World Cup and scored 3 goals. I don't think £6M is unreasonable and I'm more conservative than most people in valuations.
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Lets be honest Hastie wasn't that good a player he got his move on the strenght of a two or 3 month brilliant spell at Fir park which he never repeated. Rangers were naieve enogh to offer him a 4 year deal for ridiculous wages so nobody was turning that down. We all knew he would never get near the Rangers 1st team and in 4 years time he would be released into the wilderness of lower league football. If he'd stayed at Fir park would he have become a 1st team regular, for me no as he was average at best, so for me he made the right move and earned himself a good wedge of cash for basically contributing feck all.
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I think £4 mill is likely the ceiling, we'd do well to get that kind of money. Transfer fees aren’t just about how good someone looks in a tournament. They’re about age, contract length, league, buying market, resale value and proven level. The Chris Wood comparison doesn’t really apply either. Wood moved for those fees because he was a proven Premier League centre-forward, with a rare physical profile and years of goals behind him. Plus, that market is completely different from a wide player coming out of Motherwell, no matter how good Elijah has looked. I would say that the World Cup absolutely raises his value. No doubt about that. That provides visibility, creates interest and maybe turns a £2m player into a £3m–£4m player if there’s a bit of competition and a bidding war or something. But £3m–£4m for a 26 year old attacking player from a non-Old Firm Scottish club would already be a very good fee. If he was 20 or 21, with the same performances and bigger resale upside, then I’d agree the number should be a bit higher. For me, the club should be aiming for a decent guaranteed fee, good add-ons, and a sell-on clause. That’s where we can protect ourselves if he goes on and proves he’s worth far more.
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He was playing along side Chris Wood who has moved for 15M 25M and 15M. Just looked way better than Wood.
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Sorry, should have said I`m happy if the money is correct and meets our valuation.