siebsbarmyarmy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 And what lots of young players need to realise is that to earn more money in the long run it's often better to serve you time and learn your craft first and boost your earning potential. It's a bit like getting a degree or serving an apprenticeship. Hone the skills first and your career earnings will typically increase. You think Ben Hall is better suited playing against Kris Boyd and co week in week out as opposed to moving to a Championship club with better facilities/coaches/quality of player to learn from/more money? The whole 'stay at Motherwell and get first team experience it will serve you better in the long run' line is nonsense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Fair play to the boy if he can get a contract at an English championship club. We can't compete with that. Having said that, I can't see him getting a sniff of a game in the English Championship anytime soon and would expect him to be loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 No idea how this works but if both Leeds and Brighton in championship why are Leeds category 1 team and Brighton not in regards to the compo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 No idea how this works but if both Leeds and Brighton in championship why are Leeds category 1 team and Brighton not in regards to the compo Not sure but erwin signed for us when he was 9, hall when he was16. Surely that would be factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I might be wrong but sometimes sticks in my mind about us getting 50k per year for Erwin's 11 years at the club. I do also think there was a later report that said the fee was a bit less than that as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I might be wrong but sometimes sticks in my mind about us getting 50k per year for Erwin's 11 years at the club. I do also think there was a later report that said the fee was a bit less than that as well though. Section F - Pages 43 - 49 (clause F32) if you have the time or inclination. http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf Here's the English League's charter (page 3 details classification for those interested): http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/academy-players-parents-charter-2015-2016.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 he's heading to the south coast people (fans) need to realise that this football malarkey is a job, these guys play football to earn money. and that is the exact same reason I go to my work. yes, we would all love players to show some loyalty to our team, but money talks and I don't have a problem with that. are we as a club showing loyalty to Hammell or Lasley for what they have given this club by offering them 40% less wages? from whats been said on here, he wanted comparable terms with the likes of Kennedy and Laing, we never delivered on that. so he's decided to not sign a new deal and see what is out there - he's got a new team earning probably way more money and is still very much young enough to learn from better players at a bigger club rumours were that Hutchy was on £4k per week - how can anyone turn their back on that kind of money - you cant Yeah but there is short term gain against long term success. He was getting games and experience here. If he doesn't get that at which other club he goes to (probably one with more resources than us, and therefore bigger playing squads and better players) then he will go backwards. There's thousands of former professional footballers out there with no club or playing part time or low level football because they disappeared out the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Brighton are a club that had Gordon Greer as their first standby centre back for the playoffs. Not a fantastic centre half. If Hall applies himself, he has all the tools to develop into a better player than Greer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyS88 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 The other side of that coin though is that he stays with us, gets an unlucky long term injury that stunts his development and never gets another offer the same size again. Its a risk either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 he's heading to the south coast people (fans) need to realise that this football malarkey is a job, these guys play football to earn money. and that is the exact same reason I go to my work. yes, we would all love players to show some loyalty to our team, but money talks and I don't have a problem with that. are we as a club showing loyalty to Hammell or Lasley for what they have given this club by offering them 40% less wages? from whats been said on here, he wanted comparable terms with the likes of Kennedy and Laing, we never delivered on that. so he's decided to not sign a new deal and see what is out there - he's got a new team earning probably way more money and is still very much young enough to learn from better players at a bigger club rumours were that Hutchy was on £4k per week - how can anyone turn their back on that kind of money - you cant And you know this because.....? I would largely agree with your point but what you also need to realise is that whilst the "we play for money" argument is a compelling one, it doesn't mean that you have to jump the very first time you get extra doh waved under your beak. As you say, money is why we all go to work but I personally have turned down some (comparable to my present salary) very well paid jobs because they were not the right fit, be it for the work life balance, or narrowing of career options. For me, this discussion surrounding Ben Hall has nothing to do with rose tinted fan spectacles. It's about a young boy making a large career decision within a hugely competitive and densely populated job market. I remember Strachen when he was Celtic manager lamenting the sheer volume of young kids on mega wages at the bigger clubs who had never played for their first teams, were never likely to and yet monetarily, had never been so healthy. His point was that these lads careers were over before they knew it. Money can be a tremendous motivator but can be terribly short termist if the wrong decisions are made. If he's gone he's gone, no biggy really for Motherwell, I just hope the boy doesn't make the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Andy Robertson is supposedly going to sign for Arsenal....there's yer dinner / argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 You think Ben Hall is better suited playing against Kris Boyd and co week in week out as opposed to moving to a Championship club with better facilities/coaches/quality of player to learn from/more money? The whole 'stay at Motherwell and get first team experience it will serve you better in the long run' line is nonsense imo. At his age? Absolutely. Same reason as guys like Cadden improved from their loans rather than playing non-competitive U20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Motherwell FC can today confirm Alan Burrows has been promoted to the role of Chief Operating Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I'll be right back, just getting some popcorn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Maybe that's Flow,s wedding present from Motherwell FC lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Does it really count as a signing, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Who had that roll at the club before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Does it really count as a signing, though? It’s a contract extension. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Congrats to 'Flow I was one of the fans who was worried/concerned when he got the General Managers job, but he has certainly proved me wrong over past two years with a lot of what he has done and the way he has went about his business. This new gig is his reward, giving him a more prominent and influential role at the club than he already had. Wish him all the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigeeze Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Well done Flow. But the biggest contract hell sign is tomorrow. Best of luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Deserves his promotion and place on the Board. Good luck to the guy over the weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villageman Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Other than job title do not see much change.The C.O.O. is responsible for the day to day running of a Company much like a General Manager. Reporting lines may differ though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Spoke to my mate today who's a Burnley obsessive.....proper obsessive....to the point he takes his family on their annual holiday to Burnley's pre-season tour. Anyway, he's told me they've signed some U21 Scottish Starlet from Motherwell on a 3 yr deal? (I wasn't aware we had one of those?) I thought it must be Hall but there's nothing on the website but he said he's meant to be a midfielder? Cadden???? normally i'd say "aye did they?" but he knows his club inside out!! anyone heard owt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Spoke to my mate today who's a Burnley obsessive.....proper obsessive....to the point he takes his family on their annual holiday to Burnley's pre-season tour. Anyway, he's told me they've signed some U21 Scottish Starlet from Motherwell on a 3 yr deal? (I wasn't aware we had one of those?) I thought it must be Hall but there's nothing on the website but he said he's meant to be a midfielder? Cadden???? normally i'd say "aye did they?" but he knows his club inside out!! anyone heard owt? Robbie leitch apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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