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Aye, its time to lay off MJC and Steelboy. Everyone is different and there are extreme pessimists and extreme optimists in our support, and all shades of opinion in between. I often disagree with them both but at times they both write a lot of sense. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater folks. Lets get back on topic - by all accounts theres plenty of activity due later to occupy us.

Given that Livi have got about 20 fans they are all probably in a group chat with Martindale.

A full back on loan from Cardiff

I know their fan. I'll ask him.

Think he's probably more concerned about getting sunburnt from the lights

I get that and I know that in modern times it can be hard for fans to fork out their hard earned week in, week out to go and support the team. Life happens. But I’m not ‘having a go’ at fans who for whatever reason can’t go to the games. I’m more meaning those who could go but choose instead to spend their Saturday/or whatever at the pub or the bookies, or the bowling or the golf…all of which costs money too. I know a fair few Motherwell supporters who fall into those categories and I dare say others do too. Semi Finals? Cup Finals? European ties? They’re there. But run of the mill games against Kilmarnock on a Saturday and Ross County on a Tuesday night? Forget it. Like it or not we just don’t have a very good or loyal support with the exception of the small, faithful band of regulars.

The reason I've stayed away from Fir Park at times has nothing to do with being fairweather. It's genuinely been because I couldn't afford it. When I've had the cash to buy a season ticket I've always bought one. And when I can't go to a game I always offer my ticket out because I know what it's like not to be able to afford to go.

That's correct. You are right. I think what we can take away is they spent 1.4 million less than us in salaries. We lost a million, they broke even and just wait until we publish 2023 in line with them. 2 manager sackings and panic buys to stay in the league. That for me is why they are stronger just now and we are tightening up the purse strings. The board cant lose 7 figures two years in a row of "our money" in some ways. So get used to our new tighter squad whilst we work towards Break Even.

Well that doesn’t bode well since we know both Jack and Jill got injured!!

I think we may look back on not getting Van Veen as a bullet dodged...

So buddies could be signing KVV and we have signed Jack and Jili !! I'm here all night 😜😜

Just

From being a project , Bair is now the man we need to save our season. Come on Theo.....make yourself a legend

I know we've obviously tried to sign another striker, but the club has let strikers go before replacements were in the door. This is very poor. We needed options up front for these next two crucial home games. To think of all the special players we have had up front in the past to be going into the remaining games with a project player, an untried player and a player who is always injured is shocking. Scunnered to say the least.

I would happily take Brophy, as I would Simon Murray. .At least they have a reputation at this level.

So far we have added Midfield - Halliday Midfield - Nicholson LWB - Montgomery (injured) RWB - Elliot RWB - Devine LWB - Bubayu FWD - Vale I agree we need one more striker. But I think thats a pretty decent attempt at addressing the weaknesses in the squad. We can argue all day whether we should have pushed the boat out for KVV or not. Personally, I feel it would have been a boost for the team and support to get him. But I wouldnt have been paying silly money for the privelege. There are no guarantees in football, so everything is a risk. Brophy would be a good signing in the Halliday mould. Experienced, knows the league and could hit the ground running. He or someone similar would complete the set.

He is playing up front

You forgot bevis

I suppose you could ask Groningen if they got their money's worth. Kilmarnock can tell us in May.

All those achievements were prededed and followed by seasons with poor league finishes and cup results. We haven't managed to maintain a credible challenge over an extended period for nearly a century.

I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't sign another striker tonight or in the next day or two but am keeping my powder dry for now.

I don't think it's been his choice though,is it not a loan deal,therefore it's down to groningen to accept the best for them

Aye a pity on that situation, Gent looked good pushed forward too although against lower league opposition it has to be said. On another note, how many loan signings have Ross County brought in now?! Noticed one of them is ex-Dundee Utd bombscare Loick Ayina. Glad we are not in that situation with Deek Addams (family) at the helm, be better off with Uncle Fester...

So do we think we'll get a striker in? If we don't it has to be the end of Daws surely?

Not meaning to be critical but Louis doesn't play for us.......let's focus on current situation

Guy showed great composure and football intelligence. Wish him well.

To be honest if that's the best we can sign we should not be in the Premier League. Total farce of a club. No CEO, no money, a hard core support of about 4000. To think we used to be a credible force in Scotland. Those days are gone and will not return.

We'll still have between £2.5-3 million a year to spend on players. We have money to sign players that better than Obileye we just don't have a manager and head of recruitment who can get them in.

That stand holds 1600

Firstly I’d say this discussion should be moved to its own thread as it has merit (maybe the mods can sort that) but heres my tuppence worth. I might be wrong but as the average gate attendance’s includes the away fans, is it not possible that their crowds are larger because they allow the arse cheeks more than one stand? Also, what is the comparison between how many we take to their grounds to what they bring to Fir Park?

Comes pre installed with the look of "what have I done?!"

We are long over due it but doesn't mean it will happen. We just need to get the club stable again. Get some decent money for Lennon Miller and get ourselves sorted out. If we come through the next 6 months there's no reason to think we can't put the shambolic last 2/3 years behind us.

Most on here can't see the bigger picture with vale,stats show games played,goals scored and assists,...how many chances did he have before he got his goals,how many assists has he been involved in that his team mates couldn't convert,what's his pace like,what's his link up play like,what's his movement like in the box,unbelievable that a player can be sussed out after only starting 5 games for a very average league one side by what they read on a website

Mcginn is a RCB in a three, and maybe a right back in a 4, but we're not going to a 4 any time soon. He could definitely function as a wing back, but we are obviously looking for more pace there. SOD looks like he's moving into that RCB role as well, and he fared a lot better out there, so I can see why we want cover at wing back, especially when we expect them to be all action, so having options on the bench is very useful. Also, someone is totally going to get injured.

Someone is clearly bankrolling them then.

If Van Veen is playing for Killie at the weekend this could be a belter of game. The guy was having meltdowns 5 minutes after getting back to Holland good luck playing in front of the East Stand.

The club stands on Fir Park Street

High time financial fair play was implemented in Scotland.

I wouldn't say it was an embarrassment. Not much club can do if Blackburn boot us in the baws and KVV goes to a club that are willing to fork out wages on a par with their early 90's when they had victor, Archibald and Tomas Stickroth. Let's just wait and see how things develop

19 years today since Marc Fitzpatrick fired scored a last minute extra time winner against Hearts in the League Cup at Easter Road. One of the greatest nights I’ve had following Motherwell.

James Forrest looking to go out on loan to get game time? I think I’d be happy getting a hold of him til the end of the season. He’s 34 but he’s still managed to get a few goals this season having only played a couple of games. Might also stop the wee fker scoring against us.

That's a separate issue, number of starts. You said two goals in fourteen games like he'd started every game. But when you're called out on it, you move the goalposts. It's now not about how many goals he scored, it's about how many games he started is why he's 'shite'. Which is what you're talking...

If Hearts are in for him too I think that's where he will go. All that matters is money all the misty eyed pish that gets talked about players is not worth a fuck. It's a difficult one , rarely do returns to Fir Park work and it's strange how it's all gone tits up a Gronigen. I think as an individual he may be "hard work" however is it worth a gamble if we can afford it for 6 months ? Yes it is because relegation is a bigger financial threat.

To be fair to MJC he just seems to be a 'glass half empty' kind of chap.

And you're giving him some.

So you're checking out potential signings now so you can pan them before they play, your dedication is commendable

Poor guy needs a first half hatrick when he starts and even then there will be cunts on here saying he missed the easiest one.

It's worth bearing in mind that if his goalscoring record was impressive, we'd be nowhere near him.

The English Championship is the 6th richest league in the world, because he couldn't cut it in that doesn't mean a lot in our league

They must be the most delusional club in the country outwith the ugly sisters, they all still think its the mid 80's up there and they are a good side. They deserve all they get.