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And the reality is, we're likely to get closer to Rangers' valuation than ours. On paper, he's just a young lad with half a season of SPFL experience, comprising about half-a-dozen impressive performances, and a similar number of mediocre ones.

There is no chance Sevco are going under again, however much wishful thinking people continue to do about it.

Heard a rumour that his dad really doesn't want him to go there, so wonder if that's what's the hold-up has really been...

And, since this is the former players thread, Stevie Woods.

I was right about that, at least....

Plenty of hot grease in a fitba' pie... think I'd rather be hit with the lighter!

We've been mediocre and won nothing in pretty much every one of the 40-odd seasons I've witnessed. If that was all that mattered, I'd have given up long ago.

Still don't really want it on when I'm also trying to watch telly with the wife, though

I've got the sound off, but yes, it's Joe Harper.

The trouble is, he's not a goal scorer at all these days. I can't say I'm one of the haters and he's certainly played his part in our recent run of form, but whenever a cross comes into the box he usually looks about as likely to get on the end of it as I am.

Well yes, players do tend to say things like that, if they've any sense. Then they can't really lose, whatever happens.

I'd kinda prefer just to let it go to be honest, at least until next year when it'll be 25 years. No doubt he was one of the best there's been and died long before his time, but ultimately he was only with us for 4 years (only one of which was particularly successful), had left us and moved on a fair while before he died, and 24 years plus a few days isn't an especially notable anniversary otherwise. We'd probably be having minutes applauses for players every other week if we applied most of those criteria to all of them

No chance they'll be sacked one game into a campaign, sadly.

Livi doing us a nice favour too, after St Johnstone led early on.

3-0 Hastie. (I'm supposed to boo him, right?)

1-0 Turbull

What makes you think it's a pretence? Some folk get upset, others don't. I can't remember the last time anything to do with football made me actually angry.

It clearly hasn't. We have 4 players in the current Scotland under-21 squad, more than any other team has. If we only hang onto three of those past the end of this season, that still seems like a pretty good return to me.

I was getting that, working now though. Looks like we're playing into a howling gale first half... bit of a nervy start so far.

Can they no' read either?

But as pointed out above, the T&C's on their website are specifically for match and season ticket holders, which is why season ticket holders aren't having to pay again, and they can charge PATG punters whatever they like. (Which doesn't make it right, of course.)

It's certainly not a good look for them, but I suspect they'd get out of it with some pedantry... those are the T&Cs for season tickets and match tickets, and PATG fans presumably didn't buy a ticket.

Yep. Wonder how long it'll be before they quietly remove that wording from their website...

Fishel Twitter saying they're going back to dressing rooms for 10 mins. Can't see how anyone thinks it's going to improve, though.

Video from the usagoals stream posted above. Looks like they're about to call it off, though ref hasn't taken the players off the park yet.