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Scottish Cup would be a closer call, but the League Cup doesn't do a lot for me these days, and the CL is probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. (Mind you, I thought that about cup finals in 1991, and we've been to another two since then.)

http://www.motherwell-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/fir_park_news_rolls_off_the_press_735431/index.shtml

Largely agree with the other posters, although I take the OP's implied point that the circumstances of Mr Kelly's death were rather unusual and more closely related to on-field events than most. Even if Kilmarnock felt differently, though, it would be entirely up to them to to ask… nothing to do with us unless and until they did.

I'd be happy enough if they just weren't on anyone's side, the way it's supposed to be...

Not a 'Well player, but just remembered Paul Martin (who played for Accies at the time) used to live right across the road from us in Hamilton in the late 80s. (And on a rather grimmer note, Paul McGrillen was living a few houses further down the same street when he died… I wasn't living there by then, but my dad still was.)

Haven't done the maths myself, but according to BBC: "Well must also beat Kilmarnock at Rugby Park next weekend to prevent Celtic being able to clinch the title away to Rangers the following day."

I was living in Dublin when Richie Foran still lived there, but he hadn't signed for us by then (I now live in the same wee town as Johnny Logan, who's rather more famous.)

Indeed… here's a complete rundown of Ajax's 76/77 season, including team photies.

Was a bit later than that… '76?

That's his Twitter name alright, but there's certainly no sign of him having said that now: https://twitter.com/#!/f_fyvie Which is probably just as well, or I'd imagine he'd be in trouble for accusing a fellow professional of attempting to injure him. Searching for that quote on Twitter brings up two results that have certainly been written to look like retweets, so it's possible Fyvie might have tweeted it, then deleted it afterwards I suppose.

Perhaps, but punishing somebody for incompetence isn't particularly helpful without some sort of remedial action as well, otherwise their level of competence isn't likely to improve (and their motivation is likely to slump into the bargain). And it's certainly not obvious to me what that action would be, if the aim was to avoid a repeat of the sort of thing we saw happen yesterday.

I get that we're all annoyed, but what exactly might the SFA do that would prevent a repeat of the mistake on Saturday? How do you teach somebody to see things? Would docking him a week's wages mean that he'd see things better next week?

Hopefully that's a sign that they're pretty confident of reaching the target. Rule #1 of putting counters of web pages: don't do it unless you're sure it's not going to make you look bad

I'm sure he'll still be desperate to prove himself at Everton, too, given the time he's had of it. And let's not forget he's still only 28… if he'd been injury-free, he'd probably still be enjoying the form of his career right now, albeit the tail end of it. That's not really the time to be thinking about a move to somewhere you once said you'd like to finish it.

I got a letter a couple of weeks later.

I have a suspicion they might be holding some of the players back on purpose, to use as a bit of publicity stunt for a final push if we're a bit short as March 31st approaches. "Look who's signed up this week, we're nearly there now!" etc. I'm a bit in two minds about having current players contributing anyway, to be honest… if you don't get at least the whole first team to sign up, it makes the ones who haven't look a bit bad, even if they have perfectly good reasons for not wanting to. And sooner or later they'll all be moving on to other clubs, and at that point their contributions might well have to stop anyway, either voluntarily or at the wishes of their new employers. At the end of the day it should be a fans' thing, and I certainly don't expect all of our players to show the same long-term commitment to the club that the fans do.

You'd think not, but let's not forget he was doing it so poorly earlier on this season that he was possibly only one game away from the sack prior to Celtic's first visit to Fir Park in November, with the SPL title race apparently all but over at that point. Unfortunately, we probably kept him in a job that day...

I'm sure if we ever started filling an 8000-seater stadium every week, we'd soon have (or be able to secure) the funds to extend it a bit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/6359497.stm Links to all the games are the same place they've always been as far as I can see, near the top of http://bbc.co.uk/sportscotland .

It did, but soul and atmosphere are two different things IMHO. There might be less (or at least, a different) atmosphere at Fir Park now than there was 25 years ago, but it still has much the same soul… otherwise folk wouldn't be complaining about leaving it behind for a "soulless" new build. Only analogy I can think of at this time of night is the difference between weather and climate I suppose -- weather/atmosphere is what you have at any given moment, climate/soul is what you have over a longer period of time, and to some extent defines a place and the people who inhabit it.

Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of this "soulless" argument. Soul comes from the people who fill a stadium, not from the architect's plans. Fill any stadium with 5000 'Well fans every other week and put a team on the park that gives them something to shout about, and it'll have soul aplenty.

Oops, aye, you're right of course. Always get confused when some sites list on/off target, and others list total/off target. Twelve (or even seven) is still a wee bit more than "a couple", mind you

According to the official stats, Celtic had 19 shots, we had 3...

We only (usually) get the goals on the Saturday night, not highlights as such. Don't know why that hasn't happened this week, but It happened the other week because it was 0-0, so no goals to show. Match highlights on the site are currently provided by the BBC, so only posted up some time after they appear on the BBC website. I presume we're hoping to provide our own highlights instead at some point in the future (probably once we're able to stream live video of games, not just audio…)

Oh absolutely, I'm not pointing the finger at him for our general ineffectiveness up front yesterday.