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Looks like another 2 match changes for TV Dundee untd away now Sunday 22/9 @ 15:00, live on BT sport Hibs home game now Sunday 3/11 @ 12:30 BT sport http://eclipse-retail-content.intra.bt.com/itool/btsportguide/fixtures.html

Hollis for me, good shot stopping, quick off his line when required, had no chance at any of the goals so no blame there. Anier was a close second

As ineffective as we were yesterday, we coped well for 60 mins, Aberdeen were running out of ideas then as we tend to do at Motherwell we gave them a get out of jail free card and let them back into the match without working for it. The pen gave them a lift and we fell apart, our midfield was all over the place, Faddy contributed feck all the whole game, he was a passenger, if he is injured then why did he start, he never tracked back and left Ramsden exposed all the time ( but as he should never be playing right mid anyway, thats maybe to be expected). As for the pens.. yes Hamell made a james hunt of it, but Mcmanus had no need to dive in, the 2nd one was very soft, if Ref's start to award pens for that then we will have 2 or 3 every game. Reynolds took his goal well but we still cant defend set pieces and corners effectively, we look suspect every time. It was a bad day at the ofice, but putting it into perspective its 2 games in to a 38 game season, so a very long way to go, its a new team they need time to settle. We have taken 50% of the points on offer so far, if we still have that figure at the end of the season we will be in Europe again so no need for panic. Oh and we badly need a right winger with some pace, we are missing Humphrey big time.

away and dont talk shite...1-1 last night would have been a great result against a good side..we had the chance not to get beat but we never took it, thats why smc reacted like he did, as would any manager.Plus a draw is another 0.5 on the co-efficient next year that might have meant being seeded or not.

Its a dissappointing decision from SMC, its sending the message out that he thinks we are beaten before the game is even played. What sort of confidence does that install in the players when the manager is so negative. As for the Aberdeen game, its not as if its a title decider, its game 2 of a 38 game season FFS, they have been our bitches for 4 or 5 seasons now,why should Sunday be any different. I agreee with Fatcalf that the competition is loaded against teams like Motherwell progressing, but if we have a great season again and qualify for Europe, unless we are going to give it our best shot, ie strongest available team selection etc, then we might as well not bother taking part. There were another 38 clubs in Scotland who would love to have been playing in Europe this year, so in my opinion sending a weakend side is not doing ourselves or Scottish football justice. If you think you are beaten before you start then you will be, so why not get the players up for it, show confidence and get right into them. When it comes to the European matches the main problem Motherwell has is getting over our own inferiority complex, oh its Pana, Levante,Odense , Kuban, ( next years opponents) etc they are better than us we have no chance. Just once i would like to see SMC talking us up before a European game, instead of running scared from teams

Away and dont talk shite...you sound like a "Glass always empty" sort of guy, do you ever see the final whistle of any games you go to, "oh feck its 20 mins in, we are 2 down, the games lost i'm away up the road". As you point out we have been beaten by better teams, there is no shame in that but at least we tried with our best players.

Game already lost....FFS what a ridiculous statement to make..hopefully none of the players have the same attitude as you.

Pish...our strongest team should be going, we are 2-0 down at half time so we still have a chance to get something from the game. Apart from that is it asking too much to have the players play 2 games in 4 days, i think not. We are a new side, so everybody needs as much game time as they can to get to know each other. Sending the reserves to Kuban would be a big mistake, i have never liked the teams who field their League teams, Cup teams, Euro teams etc, as a fan you want to see the strongest team play every game. When we are 3-2 up on aggregate and into the last 30 seconds of the game then SMC can rest a few of the players, but not before

1-0 up and running, bring on the russians...yaaaas

got to agree with that,SMC set up for the draw and we got beaten.i would like to have seen us go for it, who knows it might have paid off. The Kuban coach saw at half time that we were no threat with 1 up top and went to 2 at the back, 2 full backs pushed up and 7 mins in they got the goal. We give European opposition too much respect, treat them the same as any other SPl team And get right into them, if we get beaten then so be it but at least we gave it a go

I am beginning to get pissed off with all this European nonsense now, every season for the last few years the team plays well, gets results and secures European qualification and we all look forward to the draw. Then the usual happens and we dont turn up and get fecked out at the first hurdle. Thats our last 7 european games, Odense, Pana, Levante, and the 1st against Krasnodar we have shipped 13 goals and scored just 1, we just don't seem to be able to play in Europe. I know that we have been up against much better sides with huge budgets, but we never seem to make any progress. When we qualified for the Uefa cup and played Nancy in 2008 Europe was a huge boost to the club, our 1st taste of it in 12 years, and most well fans were happy just to Qualify. Now recently we are qualifying every year and i think we need to be progressing, just getting there is not enough now, we need to be aiming for the group stages.

ZFA for me, thought he was outstanding,the only well player who looked a threat. He will do well this season.

i know what you mean, would like to think no decent wellfan would use a ticket they found, hope he sees the game

And 2 of them sit in the same seat if the Cooper is a sell out...hope they are close

SMC stating that we have learned from our mistakes and are going to be more careful tonight, i hope its true, we always seem vulnerable to a quick counter attack. http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/mccall-we-have-learned-from-our-mistakes-and-will-be-more-careful.21747993

Not paying attention it seems, just read the 2013-14 fixtures thread .

Just been looking on the ESPN / BT sport site and our home game against Kilmarnock onn 31st August is being shown live with a 17:30 kick off http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/scottishfootball/bt-sports-spfl-picks-for-august-at-a-glance-S11363819562290 Looks like the SPFL premiership games are geting the shit TV slots again.

This is there 1st European game, they are seeded because of the good results other Russian sides have had in recent years, so they take the high country co-efficient. Its the same reason Swansea are seeded for Q3. I dont see enough Russian league games to judge the standard, but just because they are paying millions for players does not necessarily mean those players are any good. We will need to hit the ground running tomorrow night and be at our best, keeping a clean sheet and taking a lead to Russia to build on would be a great result.

Never joined the well society and at the moment have no plans to do so. Between my season ticket (POD), food and drink on match days, shop purchases etc i am probably contributing approx £600 a year to the club, and lots of others do the same and consider it a big enough investment. As it stands i am not convinced of the merits of the WS. But that may change in the future.

UEFA wont bother their arse...both the champions and europa leagues are set up to benefit the big sides from the main European nations. Every year the rich teams get even more money and the rest get the scraps from the table. I cant see it changing any time soon.

I dont think Nielsen was signed as back up for Hollis, he will be the 1st choice going forward. After Thursday when the real ganes start is the time to judge them.

No we wont, and StJ wont be either if they get through. In our case a lot of the seeded teams will need to get knocked out this round (q3) for us to move up, not impossible but unlikely

Kris Boyd...we cant afford the luxury of carrying a lazy fud like him in the team..so no thanks from me on that one.

UEFA need to be looking at the whole EL and CL qualifying set up. Getting entry to the Champions or Europa league should be the reward for a successful season, a prize / bonus for the clubs and fans involved. We have the situation now where Motherwell,s participation might cost the club money, which is wrong. Not only the club but the fans suffer as well, how many will make the trip to Russia, not a lot. Its time it was sorted, start thinking about all member clubs not just the top sides from the big nations.

1-1 McHugh 83 mins