wellsince75

Experience I think is key. SK has had something like 60 games in charge (excluding when he was co-joint boss) He may become a good manager but not showing any plan B at the moment. Compare that to say Ian Murray who has +300 games in management and a +42% win record. Spend a few quid and bring in a decent manager willing to step up.

He needs to go - it’s a joke and easily as bad as GA and SH time at the club . need to move on now , let SK and his backroom team return to punditry . het rid of Dawes and bring in the new manager ahead of Xmas to give time to assess and find Jan signings

Bullet header - thanks Mika

Completely agree - there is zero game plan. Kick , chase and hope

It was something like 11 games - this is now 1 or 2 games worse . cant see SK lasting til Xmas

Don’t agree - mugabi was out of position and didn’t take the ball . I know I’m a bit anti bevis , his positional sense is poor and costs danger all too often

We could play for the rest of the e night and not score . we’re now making St J (who are poor) look decent . can’t see SK getting any more time . 1 point from 3 winnable games and not won since summer

Poor free kick given away by bevis for another poorly timed tackle poor goalkeeping from the free kick another cheap goal Quality just isn’t there

Honestly surprised that Kelly hasn’t been dropped recently - devoid of all confidence

Cmon lads give us something to cheer about .

Distinct lack of quality by both teams - if there was ever a game we could and should win it’s this one

fair play - this is as strong a team as we have available. Been wanting to see Spencer/Gent on the wingback roles fo a while. Equally been keen to see Davor

I fondly remember the chants for Stevie Cowan & Joe McLoead. "he's fat , he's round, he's worth a million pound " Not sure fat shaming was intended. or "there's only 1 Joe Mcleod.......fan" was probably hard for the player to take but intended as a bit of fun. Much preferred these chants than the dogs abuse people like S'OD have had. I've no doubt he and others are doing their best, it seems that unless a player chases every ball, puts in tough challenges they're likely to be called out as a wage thief /similar. Frustration should be vented to the chairman, manager not the guys on the park trying to make it work.

Lambie like others cost us goal after goal . Was more the problem than any solution. for what it’s worth I’d drop the 3 man centre half and opt for the extra midfield man. Time to drop sod . Put Spencer right back , gent left back (sorry say this every week ) Have Davor , Paton in defensive mid with Slattery and spittal further up Mika and whoever he wants as his strike partner - prob obika this is what I hope we refer to as basics - play people in the natural postions

Back in the day, when the team were playing poorly I loved the cry "just give us a body" from the terraces. If we couldn't win, serving up some serious challenges tended to cheer us all up. Bring back physcho. Simpler times

I think SK has lost the plot. As well spoken as he is infant of camera the narrative has changed a lot recently. He always did mention low budget but he's gone from talking about shape and dong the simple things well as group to pointing out individual errors. The shift from we're all in it together to it's not my fault it's the players is unacceptable. He's the guy who put a 2 man midfield on the park when we needed to shore up midfield. I don't see him really taking responsibility , more positioning himself for it not being his fault when the hammer comes.

Agree re Daws . It’s a joke that 30 players signed only 7 left and the could see there 4th manager in small space of time . the article on bbc could have been written by @David , very similar points that he outlined last week . chairman needs his backside kicked , can’t be that hard to get a ceo , not hard to spot recruitment issues and that’s 2 rookie managers that he’s hired . dont blame SH or SK for going for the role but club are being lazy . it’s clear that recruitment is brutal , clear that if smaller squad we should pay higher salary for better talent . sadly it’s also clear that SK has lost the plot with formations and the 7 players who have cost other managers their job don’t have the quality required to save SK . quite a bit needs to happen beyond just sacking a manager https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67636847

I’m beyond defending SK. he started well , had a clear plan , got rid of lots of poor players only to lose sight of said clear plan , make horrendous signings and lose grip of any credible approach . time to sign a manager with experience who has a positive record . equally time to bin the recruitment team - it’s been a joke for seasons

That’s where I’d go as well . Youngish manger but several hundred games under his belt and a very decent win record

Midfield has been a struggle for months with teams dancing through us with ease . tonight we played with 2 - neither of them defensively minded . shocking decision. Absolutely shocking

Personal view - hire someone who’s already in a job. pay the signing on fee rather than forking out compensation . someone like Ian Murray who’s done well in the championchip or Dave Challinor who’s worked wonders at Stockport managers who have hundreds of games with +40% win record in lower leagues but still hungry to do more is where I’d look .

completely agree. We're averaging less than a point a game and won 3 games from 15. Unless we improve we're on track to be bottom 2 (based on how the league has played out in recent years) Need to improve the win ratio.

thats good news. If we could get back to McGinn, Butcher & Casey as the back 3 we'd be a bit stronger.

Since being a sole manager he's managed 54 games and won 38%. Not brilliant but good enough for us (if sustained) This season our league our win rate is 20%. After 15 games it's no longer a throw away stat. Thats Malpas level poor and almost certainly bottom 2 if you look over the history books. Those running the club have a lot to answer for. Need for a CEO , longer term strategy, invest in youth etc. Spend money on a manager with a proven record. Example Stockports manager has over 700 games and a win record of +50% . Closer to home Ian Murray has over 300 games as a manger with a +40% win record. These are the types of managers we should be looking at. Rather than picking up someone who's been booted out for being poor elsewhere , hire someone a club actually wants to keep and who may want to step up a level.

Brutally cold weather. Team not won since summer months. Need to buy xmas presents. Quite impressed 3.5K well minded fans committed to the cause.