Stuwell2

2games! Ffs when did this forum turn soft and who banned SB, Y et al? :)

I’ve no doubt that we have spoken to a few players but have been knocked back due to wage constraints or other reasons.

Agree SB, looking at who they play I don’t see two of them dropping points but it is the LC and it does throw up some strange results. Also, potentially we could lose, Clyde could win and we could end up out on our arse.

Delighted with the news but now the real work begins. Firstly I think we need to see and explain to everyone clearly defined rolls for the Club board - need to ditch the “Executive board” pish - and the Society board. ie Club board responsible for day to day running of the club, setting budgets and ensuring cash flow for the budgets. WS responsible for ensuring society has cash reserves for unforeseen shortcomings in club budgets, growing the membership, encouraging members to pay regular donations etc. After that the two boards need to work together in union to look at ways to encourage external investment in the club and society - no point in both of them chasing the same potential investors for different reasons which could be detrimental and put them off investing. Obviously there will now be changes to both boards but if members of the WS board feel they can work with those they opposed on this issue as they feel the other can bring something of value going forward, then I would be willing to trust in their judgment - not saying it’s going to happen but willing to show faith in the board.

Not advocating opening other stands to away fans but it will be difficult to fill the stadium again now that we only give the arse cheeks the south stand. No other clubs fill it and we won’t fill the rest of the stands.

I’m in the POD and agree that it’s past it’s best but there’s no way we can afford to replace it without ending up with a bog standard shitty breeze block box. The Hunter stand is in as much need of work and a purpose built training is, to me, more of a priority. I hope that after the wild sheep debacle is over - and hopefully rejected - I’d like the club and WS to work together and put together a plan to show us how they intend to do this and who should have responsibility for raising the money for each project without being detrimental to the squad budget (the WS could take on the training facility while the club looks after the stadium).

Strangely enough I heard he was heading to Germany and heading to a championship team today - a load of different rumours doing the round, any or none of which could be true.

Agree with you about the defence and the youngsters but thought Halliday looked fitter and sharper than last season and tried to get things moving. Definitely needed a creative player though.

Defence had not a lot to do although the 3 central defenders looked comfortable but going to go for Ewan Wilson, looks solid, had a lovely touch to set up SOD’s goal, would have liked to see him put in more crosses though.

They can take the other arse cheek with them.

Stop posting positively about the squad - I might start getting excited about the season ahead

Add another one to the reject list folk’s

No.

You starting one? Or as other’s might say, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies

Oxborough seems to have had a decent game looking at the highlights.

True enough, I stand corrected.

Started well with the first two but went right off the cliff with the second two.

I’d see your point if the guy that posted the conversation’s is an official of the club or society and the leaks were official corespondents but since I don’t know who the guy is then at the moment I’m not concerned.

If it’s two Mexican’s some on here will explode

Ok how about this, at the moment under the current proposal as I understand it - and my figures are rough calculations due to being on holiday and no time to dig deeper - after 6 years EB has 49% paying £1.8M Private shareholders will have 29% paying £1.16M (if my quick guess of what they’re valued at taking the £4M valuation is correct and anyone feel free to admen if any of my figures are wrong) WS will have 22% paying £2M Why not have the WS buy out the private shareholders for £1.16M then look at new investment, giving up a maximum of 49% for £1.9M (using £800K of that to repay some of the £1.16M) Over the 6 years saving the WS £840K and keeping the WS as majority shareholder in the club. If done correctly, I’d think that some non WS folk would sign up, existing members will continue to pay in/start paying again/up payments if possible. I know this would be a bit unfair on the private shareholders but I can’t see any other way to resolve this and keep the society as the majority shareholding. Sorry it’s a bit rough and ready but just an idea.

Agree. Regarding Bair there’s a good chance that like UEFA, the Americas federation will make payments to the players club for him being there.

Did the society not sell a % of shares to private individuals around that time? Was this possibly part of the reason for the sale? I’m sure it was said at the time that it was to raise funds/some people were willing to put money into the club but not through the society so this was a way of getting money in without seriously diluting the WS shareholding’s. Re club valuation could we not work out the valuation of the club at that time if we know the % sold and the amount raised? This could help inform us if the valuation’s are drastically different or similar.

I’m going with…. If I had the wings of a sparrow….

And what are the wishes of all the WS members? I think there are some who believe in the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow here - not enough to pass this I hope - so are they not maybe representing those folk? Im not saying that I agree with them but they were voted onto the WS board by some of the members who liked the blurb they put out when standing.

Firstly I know no one on either of the boards so these are my own thoughts and not an agenda either way. To a certain extent I may have some sympathy with WS board members on the MCF board, who may or may not have been left holding the shitty end of the stick. IF at the start of this their WS colleagues said something along the lines of “we’re not getting involved until after the negotiations and the MFC board make their recommendations” meaning they couldn’t get a vote/guidance from them, along side the members vote saying we will listen to an offer that potentially means we give up control, then did they have a right to stop the WS members who they represent from voting on the offer? Or did they act in good faith allowing the offer to go to the society membership? Is what they have done an underhanded attempt to sell off the club on the cheap as some have said or do they believe they have given the members what they asked for? Personally if I’d been in their shoes and believed that I was carrying out the members wishes then in that case I’d have insisted on a note added to the club statement clarifying why I’d voted that way - but hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it?