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18 hours ago, mio said:

I’d go with your old friend. 


if Pat Nevin was to tell you what day it was, I would always check the calendar after to be sure.

he lives in his own Par Nevin little world.

I'd strongly disagree with this.

I went to a similar event here on Guernsey, listened to an hour of anecdotes and had a good chat with him afterwards as the token Motherwell supporter. I also bought his book, which he very kindly signed for me. Having read it, I really can't find any fault in him. The blame seems to lie with Boyle himself as a well-intentioned but fairly clueless owner and his holding company Hamilton.

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19 hours ago, Mad Dog said:

I'd strongly disagree with this.

I went to a similar event here on Guernsey, listened to an hour of anecdotes and had a good chat with him afterwards as the token Motherwell supporter. I also bought his book, which he very kindly signed for me. Having read it, I really can't find any fault in him. The blame seems to lie with Boyle himself as a well-intentioned but fairly clueless owner and his holding company Hamilton.

I bought his books too which annoyed me slightly as I was putting more money in his pockets. I did however find them interesting.

Boyle as discussed was obviously the main culprit but Nevin tried to deflect absolutely everything on him which I disagreed with. He was responsible for some of the mercenaries we employed and also responsible for their pay. An example being Tony Thomas the crock from Tranmere who played a few games for us and got £4K a week over a 3yr period.

i think Nevin is a smart guy and can pull the wool over many peoples eyes as folk think he’s honest. I don’t. Even his best mate McLair has made a few comments about Nevin spinning the truth. I thought Mclair was quite funny actually when he was talking about this and how Nevin went on and on about attending university when he was actually at a college.

anyway, it’s just my view, don’t trust the bloke, never forgave him for him taking a Chanel 5 job to commentate on an English game the same night we played Chievo to help with funds following our administration. Not something I’d have expected from our CEO as he still was at that time. Charlatan.

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I bought Pat’s book and I thought it was an excellent read .  Each to their own opinion of course . As much as John Boyle had the best of intentions he had to be talked out of some crazy ideas on plenty of occasions


Some things in it I would never have thought at the time were going on behind the scenes at Fir Park , new issues popping up on a regular almost daily basis .   

Billy Davies also sounded like one difficult character to work with , would have left sooner if it wasn’t for Nevin backing him as plenty of others at the club had seemingly had enough 

 

 

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1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

A big happy 59th birthday today to a well legend who ruined that legacy about 30 years ago........Tom Boyd

Yup....a definite joke, man no time for the club despite everything we done.  Such a Shame as he was a great player for us

I hope his birthday cake gave him a dose of the shits

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I think we need to take a step back from the whole Tom Boyd situation. It is too easy to react to his attitude towards our club. I will certainly put my hand up and admit that I have been guilty of it in the past. The truth is that he obviously has no regard for Motherwell FC, the clubs' achievements and indeed his not insignificant input into some of those achievements. That is his choice and right as an individual. I personally think it shows a certain lack of class, perhaps even bordering on the ignorant, but that is just my opinion. Getting riled up about it seems to me to be a waste of time. It fosters a sense of negativity around events at the club that deserve to be remembered in a much better light and, given the attitude of the man, you can bet that he doesn't care a jot what any of us think anyway. Personally, I am for moving on from this little saga and concentrating on more positive and deserving individuals.

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I dont actually think Tom Boyd does have no regard for Motherwell, or winning the cup with us. Ive heard him interviewed before and he does state it was some achievement.

But he is a Celtic fan and he puts his achievments with them above ours and has definitely paid no regard to us when talking openly about big games between them and us since that time.

It has certainly done him no favours with our support and rightly so.

He should be regarded as one of the greatest Motherwell captains ever. The fact that he isnt speaks volumes. 

Maybe he doesnt care about his legacy at our club. Its a shame, but its his problem.

 

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I’ve never met the guy and I understand folks view from interviews he’s done but about 15 years ago my brother had a hospitality table at Parkhead and took a few of our mates and my dad. TB came over to the table and sat with them for more than 15 minutes talking about his time at Motherwell and talking to my dad about ex players who were about the club doing hospitality when he was there which made my dads day.
My brother says he was a good guy who showed real affection for Motherwell and what we did for his career. He also says they were all having a good laugh until a Celtic employee came over and told TB that there were plenty of tables of Celtic supporters wanting to talk with him and as he got up he said awe well back to work then, it was a pleasure talking to you guys. 
So for that I give him a lot of leeway. 

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He's an obnoxious tosser, who thought his career only started when he signed for Celtic, with no regard to what went before, or respect for the club where he got his start as a pro.

He only scored 2 goals in 304 appearances for Celtic, 6 for Motherwell in 252 so the best stats of his career were at Fir Park but as far as he's concerned he's a Celtic legend, as I said a tosser.

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3 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

He's an obnoxious tosser, who thought his career only started when he signed for Celtic, with no regard to what went before, or respect for the club where he got his start as a pro.

He only scored 2 goals in 304 appearances for Celtic, 6 for Motherwell in 252 so the best stats of his career were at Fir Park but as far as he's concerned he's a Celtic legend, as I said a tosser.

He scored one for Brazil

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17 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

OK counting the OG, it's 9 career goals over 20 years ffs, 6 of which were for us, and he thinks he's a Celtic legend, I've amended my original judgement of him, he's a deluded tosser.

And to be honest, not many legendary full-backs attain that status for their goalscoring prowess.

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9 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Just a suggestion,  I see Allan Campbell on bench again for Charlton, I know it's a loan but I wonder if we could try and get him on loan in January,  would be a great foil for Miller

I don't think we could afford him now, and if we could would he come back? would be a great addition though

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