grizzlyg Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 13 minutes ago, Clackscat said: Was watching the weekly english leagues highlights programme and I see Brodie Spencer and Zak Jules both scored. BS was of course decent with us, but I still have nightmares about the time the bold Zak prevented the ball going out for our bye kick and presented it to a Ross Co? player to score. The Jules, Joe chalmers double act for 5-1 humping by Dundee still brings nightmares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, Clackscat said: Was watching the weekly english leagues highlights programme and I see Brodie Spencer and Zak Jules both scored. BS was of course decent with us, but I still have nightmares about the time the bold Zak prevented the ball going out for our bye kick and presented it to a Ross Co? player to score. I keep thinking back how good it would have been to have Spencer and Gent for the full season we all know Gent turned into a player and i think Spencer would have been the same. Both the kinda of players you need on the flanks what we are missing just now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Bailey Rice is about to get 45 mins at Old Trafford. Fair play to Baldemort for bringing him on in such a big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Curtis Main off to join Jamie Murphy at Ayr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Looks as though Lee Erwin will be on the move again as he was released by HJK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 35 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Looks as though Lee Erwin will be on the move again as he was released by HJK. He's modeling his career on Tony Watt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Not strictly a former player, but Matty Connelly scored an OG tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Liam shaw (remember him?? ) also scored a comical OG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Hearing a rumour of Allan Campbell to Dundee Utd. Anybody know if any truth in it, I know they tried for him last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, dennyc said: Hearing a rumour of Allan Campbell to Dundee Utd. Anybody know if any truth in it, I know they tried for him last year. Heard it’s apparently happening, if only we had the cash for him or another similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 21 hours ago, dennyc said: Hearing a rumour of Allan Campbell to Dundee Utd. Anybody know if any truth in it, I know they tried for him last year. Sounds likes it’s happening . i was hoping we could have made this happen and bring him back to put him in the shop window . hes exactly the type of player we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: Sounds likes it’s happening . i was hoping we could have made this happen and bring him back to put him in the shop window . hes exactly the type of player we need Priority number one still has to be a defender who can mark opponents and clear corner kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, wellsince75 said: hes exactly the type of player we need But probably can't afford, if he's coming back to Scotland he may be taking a wage cut, but even then I reckon he'd still be on too much for our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: But probably can't afford, if he's coming back to Scotland he may be taking a wage cut, but even then I reckon he'd still be on too much for our budget. Yeah , agreed . I can’t help but wonder if we could have afforded this had we not had +30 players. overall always a bit gutted when former players return to likes of hearts , hibs , Utd as we can’t quite compete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Kettlewell and Caldwell have shown us that the limited budget line is a bit of a red herring. We can’t be skint at the same time as being able to build a squad as big as it currently is. I’m certainly not suggesting we’re flush enough to afford Campbell, but we’d be a helluva lot closer to affording quality players if we didn’t pad out the squad with a quantity of injury prone guff and gambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Campbell confirmed for Utd. i hope he gets his career back on track as he deserves it, a hard working wee player. I’ve watched him quite a bit after he was binned from Luton [where he did well]and he screams of a player who has totally lost all confidence. Truth be told he was terrible at Millwall and Charlton. He looked like a junior player running about headless. Certainly not the confident Campbell who left us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 12 hours ago, wellfan said: Kettlewell and Caldwell have shown us that the limited budget line is a bit of a red herring. We can’t be skint at the same time as being able to build a squad as big as it currently is. I’m certainly not suggesting we’re flush enough to afford Campbell, but we’d be a helluva lot closer to affording quality players if we didn’t pad out the squad with a quantity of injury prone guff and gambles. The problem is we can't just splurge on one or two quality players, because we'd left with an even thinner squad that wouldn't make it through the first two weeks in December. Let's not forget the big spenders like Dundee Utd - a club whose financial model people on here used to say we should follow - ran up millions in unsustainable debt and then got themselves relegated to the Championship and stayed there for a few years. If we did that, we'd probably die. The reason we are a fan owned club is because Boyle, however well-intentioned, thought all you needed to do was splash out on those quality players and you'd have a better team. Adminsitration followed pretty quickly after that. So any time a club our size decides to start splashing the cash around, that's the risk they are taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, weeyin said: The problem is we can't just splurge on one or two quality players, because we'd left with an even thinner squad that wouldn't make it through the first two weeks in December. Let's not forget the big spenders like Dundee Utd - a club whose financial model people on here used to say we should follow - ran up millions in unsustainable debt and then got themselves relegated to the Championship and stayed there for a few years. If we did that, we'd probably die. The reason we are a fan owned club is because Boyle, however well-intentioned, thought all you needed to do was splash out on those quality players and you'd have a better team. Adminsitration followed pretty quickly after that. So any time a club our size decides to start splashing the cash around, that's the risk they are taking. There's clearly a better balance to be struck between quality vs quantity at a club like Motherwell, and I don't think Kettlewell and Daws ever got that balance right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, wellfan said: There's clearly a better balance to be struck between quality vs quantity at a club like Motherwell, and I don't think Kettlewell and Daws ever got that balance right. This is where my head is at and appreciate it’s not always simple as players can get injured etc. weve signed +35 players in 2 years and currently have a first team squad of over 30 players yet many of the better players are legacy players or youngsters that have come through. Im onboard with needing a ceiling but spending the budget on say 20 players vs 30 would increase what we could afford . There is a bit of me of course that’s just always annoyed that we can’t bring the likes of Campbell back to us , I do love when the quality ones come back . Once upon a time that was hammels , lasley and later in career the uncle Phil’s , faddy, pearsons etc Those days feel like a long time ago now . It irks me that we’ve lost our ability to reattract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 "Callan Elliot spent a spell at Motherwell but admitted the weather had not suited him." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx8pllvpv7o I guess him being too afraid to remove his tracksuit is what led to him playing zero competitive minutes for Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Twenty years to the day since we beat Hearts 3-2 in the LCSF at Easter Road. The celebrations when Marc Fitzpatrick scored the winner in the last minute of extra time will live forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 20 hours ago, wellfan said: There's clearly a better balance to be struck between quality vs quantity at a club like Motherwell, and I don't think Kettlewell and Daws ever got that balance right. Bang on. We bring in guys nearing the end of their careers with the problems that brings with wear and tear and injuries. Guys from overseas with no experience of the Scottish game and who you havent seen in the flesh who take at least 6 months or longer to acclimatise to their new surroundings. Random loan signings who sometimes work out and sometimes not. I'd like to see us taking a more targeted approach instead of the scattergun one we have now. In saying all that we're probably not alone and maybe its just testament to the lack of quality available on our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 17 minutes ago, santheman said: Random loan signings who sometimes work out and sometimes not. Another point would be trying to not rely on loan players. It’s something I highlighted last season under Kettlewell. I think I was trying to make the point that loan players should be the exception and not the rule. Plus, I’d rather we didn’t spend our time and budget developing numerous other clubs’ players each season, only for them to bugger off and leave us back to square one, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, wellfan said: Another point would be trying to not rely on loan players. It’s something I highlighted last season under Kettlewell. I think I was trying to make the point that loan players should be the exception and not the rule. Plus, I’d rather we didn’t spend our time and budget developing numerous other clubs’ players each season, only for them to bugger off and leave us back to square one, again. Sadly, if you look at most teams in the SPLF, a few of their first team regulars - and possibly better players - are loan players due to the fact they’re cheaper options because their parent club pays a fair chunk of their wages. We’re not alone in using loan players but appear to get those that either don’t suit our style, aren’t ready for 1st team football, don’t have an interest in being here or just aren’t good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Stuwell2 said: Sadly, if you look at most teams in the SPLF, a few of their first team regulars - and possibly better players - are loan players due to the fact they’re cheaper options because their parent club pays a fair chunk of their wages. We’re not alone in using loan players but appear to get those that either don’t suit our style, aren’t ready for 1st team football, don’t have an interest in being here or just aren’t good enough. My point wasn’t about stopping using loan players - as I see the value in the system - it was more about not relying on them and/or having 8 of them in at any one time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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