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1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

I am wondering if its because Fletcher hasnt played a competitive game for us and could get pinched by England.

He's barely played a competitive game for anyone and there was zero indication England were looking to call him up.

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I’m gutted for Lennon and it’s certainly dampened my own enthusiasm for our World Cup campaign. Unless young Fletcher, who I wish all the best, ends up being a sensation then I see no reason why a lad with 17 minutes of senior club football gets in ahead of Miller, Barron, Irving, Watt and possibly others. 

Specific to Lennon, being the only one to not get a minute of game time against Japan and Ivory Coast didn’t sit right with me. It somewhat pointed towards him not impressing Clarke or indeed the senior players who carry influence, in training. 

On the back of that rejection in March, I watched a couple of his starts for Udinese. I want him to do so well but I personally found those games a difficult watch. Even accounting for the step up in level,  he was on the periphery more than you would expect - not what you want from a central midfielder in a team that tries to play possession based football. This is possibly too deep but I got the impression that the Udinese players were opting not to pass to him on occasion despite being free. That can’t be easy when he’s been used to all his teammates feeding him the ball from age 6-18. 

Whatever has influenced Clarke’s decision, I think it’s fair to say his first year in Italy hasn’t quite went to plan. Listening to him prior to the Napoli game last week, he continued to come across so balanced and mature. He’s clearly a good kid and a terrific footballer, hopefully this huge disappointment fuels the fire and Clarke is made to look silly a few months from now.
 

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46 minutes ago, El Grew said:

To be absolutely honest, I wouldn’t cross the road to watch any team that Steve Clarke manages. As for the World Cup I can’t get excited about it. It’s now become a 3-ring circus and having 48 countries involved is farcical.

I'll probably play more attention after the group stages are done and dusted. I'm a much bigger fan of the knockout rounds.

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7 hours ago, El Grew said:

To be absolutely honest, I wouldn’t cross the road to watch any team that Steve Clarke manages. As for the World Cup I can’t get excited about it. It’s now become a 3-ring circus and having 48 countries involved is farcical.

100% this, well said

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World Cup over the three country's is a joke for fans attending . Prices for hotels were a joke prices for games were a joke. Think they have found out now fans aren't really that stupid and prices have crashed.

Fifa is in a different world from real fans and are so arrogant that they thought fans would pay any price. Maybe the rich celebs , rich executives and rich Arabs they regularly mix with has something to do with this alternative view of our sport.

Holding it in USA is only trying to promote football to the masses there. Corporate greed has really taken over now.

No chance Scotland will progress from our group.

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2 hours ago, stv said:

World Cup over the three country's is a joke for fans attending . Prices for hotels were a joke prices for games were a joke. Think they have found out now fans aren't really that stupid and prices have crashed.

Fifa is in a different world from real fans and are so arrogant that they thought fans would pay any price. Maybe the rich celebs , rich executives and rich Arabs they regularly mix with has something to do with this alternative view of our sport.

Holding it in USA is only trying to promote football to the masses there. Corporate greed has really taken over now.

No chance Scotland will progress from our group.

If you think that's a joke, it's being held over three continents in 2030.

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I was just about ready to throw myself out a window after trying to explain to a younger family member that Steve Clarke "getting us to major tournaments" isn't as impressive as it might have been when we were doing it in the 80's and 90's, when said tournaments included 24 and 8 teams. 

Don't get me wrong, I grudgingly respect Clarke getting us to the tournaments he has, but let's not pretend that it's even close to the same as Roxborough getting us to the 1990 World Cup and 1992 Euros.

It's mental to think that tournament in 1992 featured us and only seven other teams!

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7 minutes ago, David said:

I was just about ready to throw myself out a window after trying to explain to a younger family member that Steve Clarke "getting us to major tournaments" isn't as impressive as it might have been when we were doing it in the 80's and 90's, when said tournaments included 24 and 8 teams. 

Don't get me wrong, I grudgingly respect Clarke getting us to the tournaments he has, but let's not pretend that it's even close to the same as Roxborough getting us to the 1990 World Cup and 1992 Euros.

It's mental to think that tournament in 1992 featured us and only seven other teams!

The 8 team Euros were my favourite footballing event and still remember the 1976 tournament where the original Panenka was taken (by Panenka, obviously) in the penalty shootout in the final.

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1 minute ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said:

See Smelik have terminated Welsh’s contract……….should we be busting the bank for him ????

We shouldn't be busting the bank for anyone.

Welsh was great, but other football playing centre backs are available.

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26 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said:

The amazing thing to me was that I never spoke to a Celtic fan who rated him in the slightest.

Nobody at the club, fans or Board, seems to rate him.

I understand that sometimes players aren't always a good fit for a particular team or system, but given the way Celtic like to play it feels like an obvious choice to keep him (and start him).

 

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1 hour ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said:

See Smelik have terminated Welsh’s contract……….should we be busting the bank for him ????

He's not coming to us. 

On a separate note, I get the feeling that there's more to his departure from Celtic Park than meets the eye. 

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6 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

He's not coming to us. 

On a separate note, I get the feeling that there's more to his departure from Celtic Park than meets the eye. 

I would presume that the reason he has agreed to rip up the last year of his contract is because he has been offered a deal elsewhere on the same or better. Why else would you?

Clearly they want him off the books to free up a wage, the fact that they dont have to pay up his contract is a bonus for them.

I love the fact its being painted as a charitable exercise from Celtic though as a thanks for all his years of loyal service!

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12 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I would presume that the reason he has agreed to rip up the last year of his contract is because he has been offered a deal elsewhere on the same or better. Why else would you?

Clearly they want him off the books to free up a wage, the fact that they dont have to pay up his contract is a bonus for them.

I love the fact it’s being painted as a charitable exercise from Celtic though as a thanks for all his years of loyal service!

Definitely not a charitable act on Celtics part

I will  be surprised if it’s not Toulouse. 

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