David Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, bobbybingo said: It was the extreme nature of your assessment. We've all said this guy or that guy is shite, or he needs to drop a division or two to find his level, but to look at Bair's stats and declare he isn't capable of playing professional football was a bit much. Folk who are paid to make these decisions, whose jobs depend on them, clearly see something the stats don't show. My extreme assessment is based entirely on his extreme record. No one could look at what he's done in the game until now and think "yup, there's a player in there." I 100% hope he goes on to be a success. No one, unless they're just nasty types, ever wants to see someone fail. I can guarantee you, if this goal is the only one he ever scores, and he gets to the end of his two year stint and gets released, I certainly won't be sitting here saying "Ha! Told you so!" I don't want any of our players to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, David said: I don't want any of our players to fail. I would never have thought you did, and on that we're absolutely in agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Dundee have got a couple of good young players here. MCCowan and Cameron look excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: It was the extreme nature of your assessment. Yeah, totally agree with that. To paraphrase one of his comments I'm sure he said he hasn't done anything to prove he is a professional-level footballer despite playing in the MLS, tempting a club to spend money on him in our league, getting capped at international level and finally our management team signing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 1-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Suare has not blocked one cross all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 O'Donnell got sucked in there, naive defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Poor stuff. Decent ball in but completely ran off his man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Soft goal to give away . O’Donnell had to come in , otherwise their striker would have been unmarked . lots of defensive errors cost us there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, pretzel said: Yeah, totally agree with that. To paraphrase one of his comments I'm sure he said he hasn't done anything to prove he is a professional-level footballer despite playing in the MLS, tempting a club to spend money on him in our league, getting capped at international level and finally our management team signing him. Every manager who has signed him has talked about his potential. Not what he's done in the game. To this point, he's done nothing to prove he's a professional-level player. His record in MLS is rubbish, and his record at St Johnstone is rubbish. I also said that this is his last-chance saloon. You can only get by on athletic potential for so long, and at age 24 this month, he needs to start performing. Let's hope today is the start of that. However, the season has started. I said we discuss players when we sign them based on their past records before they play for us. For me, he's now one game and one goal deep and has done well today. Long may that continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Coatsy said: Suare has not blocked one cross all day He's looked a step behind play most of the game I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, David said: He's looked a step behind play most of the game I think. He's not looked good to me and now is subbed hope McGinlay can play wing back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Almost strange seeing McGinley again after the length of time he was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted August 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Time for Efford to come on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: Time for Efford to come on? On he comes. Welcome back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: Time for Efford to come on? Good shout . Our front 2 aren’t offering much at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Wtf ref clear corner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Have Dundee turned their VAR off today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 I’ll take a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Three minutes of added time, half of which the ball is out the pitch. Shite refereeing. Not the worst opening day in the world, Mugabi & Slattery were both superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 We take a point and move on, could have been a lot worse 2nd half. Well Done Theo and hopefully you can build on. Bring on the Hibees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 FT 1-1. Not a bad result to start the season with, I’ll take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 A point a piece is fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, GazzyB said: Three minutes of added time, half of which the ball is out the pitch. Shite refereeing. Not the worst opening day in the world, Mugabi & Slattery were both superb. Didn't see game but I will trust your judgement and apologize to big Bevis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Thought Dundee shaded it today, and if any team can feel short-changed with a draw it's them. I think we had more possession, but they seemed more decisive with the ball. Still, a point is a point. Even if it is against a team most favour to go right back down. Next weekend against Hibs will be a more stern test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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