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Warning!!! Happy clapper alert!!

I think SK has taken a lot of stick over his signings but for me I think we have a pretty decent squad. 
experience with O’Donnell Halliday and McGinn

Gordon and Casey pretty decent at the back with Ox in goal. All are not perfect but pretty solid door the most part

players Like Paton, Sparrow, Seddon, Nicholson added to Miller and Wilson 

TJ and Stam coming along nicely with Moses in there who has chimed In with some important goals 

loan players like Watt and Kaletta

probably as good a squad as we’ve had in some time. 

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49 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Warning!!! Happy clapper alert!!

I think SK has taken a lot of stick over his signings but for me I think we have a pretty decent squad. 
experience with O’Donnell Halliday and McGinn

Gordon and Casey pretty decent at the back with Ox in goal. All are not perfect but pretty solid door the most part

players Like Paton, Sparrow, Seddon, Nicholson added to Miller and Wilson 

TJ and Stam coming along nicely with Moses in there who has chimed In with some important goals 

loan players like Watt and Kaletta

probably as good a squad as we’ve had in some time. 

Agree with that but i just wish the manager had more confidence in his squad to allow them to play an attacking formation more often, as in the first half yesterday. Saying that we are in a more than satisfactory position in the league playing the way we have been. 
Keep on clapping.  👏 👏 

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45 minutes ago, stv said:

Agree with that but i just wish the manager had more confidence in his squad to allow them to play an attacking formation more often, as in the first half yesterday. Saying that we are in a more than satisfactory position in the league playing the way we have been. 
Keep on clapping.  👏 👏 

Yep, I think that’s what we are all waiting on, SK to take the leap of faith. The more you look at the squad the more it appears that they are better suited to an attacking style of play. Of course we can’t just abandon defensive side of things but I’d say we should be working towards a more attacking approach to majority of games 

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40 minutes ago, couttsy said:

Deffo. A bit surprised some would let him go, I think he's been a great signing on the whole. I'd keep McGinn, Casey & Paton. Wouldn't lose any sleep if any of the rest left. 

I think he's a bit like Bevis in that he plays well for 85 minutes, then lose concentration for the remaining 5.  There's also a strong possibility that he doesn't play well with some combination of Gordon, Balmer and Blaney. Our central defence clearly needs sorting out and although McGinn's return may help its not the complete answer.  

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1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said:

I think he's a bit like Bevis in that he plays well for 85 minutes, then lose concentration for the remaining 5.  There's also a strong possibility that he doesn't play well with some combination of Gordon, Balmer and Blaney. Our central defence clearly needs sorting out and although McGinn's return may help its not the complete answer.  

I think the answer lies in moving to a back 4 with 1 or 2 defensive pivot-type midfielders sitting in front of them. Perhaps a 4-2-3-1, although I doubt Kettlewell will ever move away from the 3 central defenders approach.  

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Casey's agression and attitude tend to distract from his lack of defending fundamentals. He was a key part of last year's defensive atrocities and, especially when starting with Blaney, is a guarantee we won't have a clean sheet.

He is an asset when we have the ball, and great at causing disruption in the opponent's box. Below average when we don't have the ball, or when he's defending in our box.

We've started to slip into our old habit of losing soft goals, and that needs to be addressed with some changes in the back 3.

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Just now, wellfan said:

I think the answer lies in moving to a back 4 with 1 or 2 defensive pivot-type midfielders sitting in front of them. Perhaps a 4-2-3-1, although I doubt Kettlewell will ever move away from the 3 central defenders approach.  

Yes. I think too, that Ewan Wilson is more suited to a back 4, as mentioned by Cameron on P & B.

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18 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Casey's agression and attitude tend to distract from his lack of defending fundamentals. He was a key part of last year's defensive atrocities and, especially when starting with Blaney, is a guarantee we won't have a clean sheet.

He is an asset when we have the ball, and great at causing disruption in the opponent's box. Below average when we don't have the ball, or when he's defending in our box.

We've started to slip into our old habit of losing soft goals, and that needs to be addressed with some changes in the back 3.

We started the season looking much better in defence and that was 

McGinn Gordon Casey

since we haven’t been able to play that combination our defence went back to old ways, as you mentioned. 
Hopefully we can go back to this combination soon and we will find out if it was coincidence or if that is the “winning” combination. 

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28 minutes ago, Cameron_Mcd said:

Did Casey not hold out for a while when he re-signed for a bigger contract.

Admittedly it's total speculation but if he's on decent money I'd wouldn't mind letting Casey go. He's by no means useless but Casey has been a regular in a defence that's shipped goals for fun.

I agree,  I think casey gets a free ride at times. I like him but he can be a bit of a bombscare

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12 hours ago, wellgirl said:

Casey has been a stalwart as far as I'm concerned. And I believe Slattery has another year option on his contract. Baffles me why anyone would want to let Casey go. 

I wouldn't simply let him go at the end of the his contract but I wouldn't go out of the way to re-sign him either. A few posts above will perhaps explain why some feel this way, if you're puzzled as to why some, including me, think as we do. For me, Weeyin's post sums up my views, better than I could express them. 

Yes, Callum Slattery's deal is up next summer and there is a year's option (we don't know the details of that though).

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I like Casey. He has a lot of attributes. But he IS prone to concentration lapses and that HAS cost us goals in the past.

I thought he was doing much better at the start of the season in the LCB position alongside Gordon and McGinn and it would be good to see how he gets on back there when McGinn is fit.

I also dont mind Blaney. He is probably better with the ball at his feet, but again concentration is his problem. He often loses his man and has cost us goals.

Probably why the narrative of Blaney and Casey not playing together has arisen from as they are both prone to these mistakes so going a full game without either of them making one is statistically unlikely.

For me, any assessment on whether we keep a player or move them on should be based on whether there is a better player available.

Moving on Bevis and Butcher last season for Gordon and Balmer was probably the right decision. Similar discussions will be had again this season.

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2 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

For me, any assessment on whether we keep a player or move them on should be based on whether there is a better player available.

There will always be better players out there than the ones we’ve got, but the real question is whether we can afford them and if they’re actually interested in joining us or have other options.

It also comes down to whether the manager and coaching staff believe there’s potential to improve and address the issues a player might have. Let’s be honest—finding a player who makes virtually no mistakes is extremely rare. If someone was consistently performing at that level, they’d probably be well beyond what we can afford.

In the case of someone like Casey, we need to ask ourselves whether he’s consistently making errors and misjudging situations, or if he’s doing what’s expected and delivering at a level suitable for a club like ours. Can the mistakes he’s making be addressed through coaching? Is there room for him to grow and improve?

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On 12/30/2024 at 9:21 PM, wellgirl said:

Casey has been a stalwart as far as I'm concerned. And I believe Slattery has another year option on his contract. Baffles me why anyone would want to let Casey go. 

He's been inconsistent.  

There was a spell last season when he was absolutely terrible.

Still one of our best three centre backs though.

As someone else said McGinn, Gordon, Casey is our best back three and we've not been able to field them.

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With Miller being out for the next 2 months we really need to bolster midfield.  (that already needed improving) 

3 from 7 midfielders are injured and wouldn't bank on Paton lasting the rest of the season without picking up injuries.   Same with Halliday given he's knocking on a bit. 

Given how tough this window is I'd much prefer to go do down the loanee route - first ask would be wee Al Campbell back to get him in the shop window. 

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I think we 'll see a few comings and goings but not a major rebuild. Candidates to be shipped out might include: Koutroumbis, Davor, Blaney, Callachan, and Stuparevic and Tavares. There's 6 names and even if only 3 leave either permanently or on loan, it clears some space.

We definitely need a permanent defensive midfielder and maybe a loanee creative one. The midfield is far too lightweight as it is. The defence needs strengthened although SK doesn't seem to know how to go about it and I don't see much movement there. We're a wee bit lightweight up front. A big physical target man would be top of my list. 

In short 3/4 departures and 3/4 coming in?

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25 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Kai Andrews on loan from Coventry is the latest rumour. 

From Scott Burns as well, so reputable source.

No idea what the boy is like, but if he has the quality of Kaleta or Vale, then age shouldnt really be an issue. 

The English academies are full of players who might not make it down there but would light up the SPL......

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We defo need a mobile midfielder, someone that can pass and move, midfield is static just now, two fast full backs as ours are all pish or injured and a strong hold up CF, a goalie that can catch the ball would be great 😂

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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Kai Andrews on loan from Coventry is the latest rumour. 

Only 18, listed as a forward / central mid, current Welsh u19 international, I'd be happier with a more experienced player but he's at an English championship club so he must have something about him.

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We need signings in January that can make an instant impact. 

- Holding mid is required urgently.

- Ideally another Winger to give us option of a change of shape.

- Wouldn't say no to a Cb who can bring the ball out the back either.

- Also think we need a target-man sort of St up front.

 

 

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6 hours ago, thewelllfan said:

We need signings in January that can make an instant impact. 

- Holding mid is required urgently.

- Ideally another Winger to give us option of a change of shape.

- Wouldn't say no to a Cb who can bring the ball out the back either.

- Also think we need a target-man sort of St up front.

 

 

and we need the manager to employ tactics that actually suit the abilities of the players. 

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