wellgirl Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, robsterwood said: He's much younger though. And quicker. Miovski not scored that amount and he's valued more than 5 mil. A load of those goals scored in championship too. God knows how, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 9 minutes ago, robsterwood said: No one's offered it. It was in Heart press. Rangers paid £4.5m for Cyriel Dessers And no one will offer it. If he's refused to sign a new contract Hearts will have to take what they can get, unless they're happy to settle for hee haw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Bair has been a revelation considering the expectations were pretty much rock bottom when he got here but at the end of the day 750k for a player that's had one good season upto this point would be great business for us.getting him on a new contract should be a priority for us this summer,it's the only way we will really be able to play hard ball on a fee,if there's no new contract and he continues his form next season then you can be sure it will be a cut price fee then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 You ever get the feeling where I wish I hadn't mentioned it!! Cheers Mr Cowan 😜😜 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: You ever get the feeling where I wish I hadn't mentioned it!! Cheers Mr Cowan 😜😜 It was on pie and bov last week to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 We got less than £1m for last seasons Premiership top scorer on 28 goals. There are lots of variable factors but Theo has scored 13 goals and prior to this season had a total of 8 senior goals. I take my hat off to the big chap for the improvement he has shown this season and it would be great to keep him as I think he can still improve, but anyone that thinks that we wont move him on if money like that comes in, or that he wouldnt want to move up a level isnt being realisitic. Particularly those that would argue that fan ownership isnt working and we need to drop our pants at £1.5m investment from outside sources....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, bobbybingo said: And no one will offer it. If he's refused to sign a new contract Hearts will have to take what they can get, unless they're happy to settle for hee haw. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 15 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: We got less than £1m for last seasons Premiership top scorer on 28 goals. There are lots of variable factors but Theo has scored 13 goals and prior to this season had a total of 8 senior goals. I take my hat off to the big chap for the improvement he has shown this season and it would be great to keep him as I think he can still improve, but anyone that thinks that we wont move him on if money like that comes in, or that he wouldnt want to move up a level isnt being realisitic. Particularly those that would argue that fan ownership isnt working and we need to drop our pants at £1.5m investment from outside sources....... Who says the investment from outside sources is 1.5 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 8 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Who says the investment from outside sources is 1.5 million? Who says it isnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 12 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Who says it isnt? I have no idea what it is.. But I'm not in the loop. And no desire to be either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, bobbybingo said: Problem is, his worth isn't up to us, the buyers will decide that. If he is willing to sign a new contract, fair enough. Otherwise, the clock is already ticking and selling in January would greatly reduce our chances of finding a decent replacement. That’s right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, grizzlyg said: You ever get the feeling where I wish I hadn't mentioned it!! Cheers Mr Cowan 😜😜 Ba Boom 🤯 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 7 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Same here but no way could we turn down that money if it was true Feed the Bair One of many good goals he has scored for us. Is he worth more than 175k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 Theo will be 25 at the start of next season and only about a third of the way through his career. According to transfer market website his value is €750k (roughly £646k). Salary sport have his salary at £31200 - I’m assuming this is without bonuses. So if they are to be believed £750k isn’t that bad a deal and would mean that for an outlay of probably £50k max, the club would get a return in the region of £700k. Now I’m not saying we sell him but from a financial point of view £750k doesn’t look that bad. Personally, like most of us I’d rather we offered and he accepted a new contract on better terms and continued to develop/improve with the view to selling him for more next summer but to a certain extent that would be a gamble and I could understand selling him if he doesn’t want an extension or if SK and his staff think he can be replaced and have someone lined up. No point in hanging on until the transfer window is about to close and then scrambling about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: There are lots of variable factors but Theo has scored 13 goals and prior to this season had a total of 8 senior goals. That's the main factor I think. Like it or not, clubs down south will be looking at a player like Bair as a punt. They're always going to be asking "yes, he's done that in Scotland against the teams in that league, but can he cut it in the big time down south?" We could keep him for another year. But there's always the risk that he returns to previous form depending on what the team looks like around him next season. Will he be the same player without Spittal in the side? Not sure that's a risk we can take. We ideally need to bring these players in then move them on at a decent profit. Bair would fit the bill in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, Stuwell2 said: No point in hanging on until the transfer window is about to close and then scrambling about. No manager wants to be scrambling about. The challenge is that every player has an agent telling them to wait until the last minute because a better offer might come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 12 hours ago, wellgirl said: 750k isn't decent cash. We don't need it that badly At the financial levels we operate at re wages etc £750k would fund possibly 4 or 5 players, so it's very decent cash to a club like ours. And the bigger English clubs know this all too well, it's small change to them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 If Bair continues to improve and score more goals, his goal contribution alone could be worth more than £750K in cup runs and league placing next season. The best-case scenario would be that he signs a one-year extension on improved personal terms until the end of season 2025/26, he performs like a Messi/Haaland hybrid next season, then is sold for 4x that figure next summer. Or we sell him this summer for £750K, spend it on a few English lower-league jobbers, then hope that Moses becomes Messi(ah) next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, wellfan said: If Bair continues to improve and score more goals, his goal contribution alone could be worth more than £750K in cup runs and league placing next season. The best-case scenario would be that he signs a one-year extension on improved personal terms until the end of season 2025/26, he performs like a Messi/Haaland hybrid next season, then is sold for 4x that figure next summer. Or we sell him this summer for £750K, spend it on a few English lower-league jobbers, then hope that Moses becomes Messi(ah) next season. Moses is not the Messiah!!....... he's a very naughty boy.........cue.............ba boom......COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 27 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Moses is not the Messiah!!....... he's a very naughty boy.........cue.............ba boom......COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 8 hours ago, Stuwell2 said: Theo will be 25 at the start of next season and only about a third of the way through his career. According to transfer market website his value is €750k (roughly £646k). Salary sport have his salary at £31200 - I’m assuming this is without bonuses. So if they are to be believed £750k isn’t that bad a deal and would mean that for an outlay of probably £50k max, the club would get a return in the region of £700k. Now I’m not saying we sell him but from a financial point of view £750k doesn’t look that bad. Personally, like most of us I’d rather we offered and he accepted a new contract on better terms and continued to develop/improve with the view to selling him for more next summer but to a certain extent that would be a gamble and I could understand selling him if he doesn’t want an extension or if SK and his staff think he can be replaced and have someone lined up. No point in hanging on until the transfer window is about to close and then scrambling about. 600quid a week? I'd be surprised if that's all he is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: 600quid a week? I'd be surprised if that's all he is on We should offer him best terms we can now. It's not so much a gamble if we keep him either. And he gets us into Europe or further in the cup. He's probably on more than 600 a week yes. Hope he was not on a win bonus as he wouldn't have got much extra. If Kelly leaves Bair can have some of the salary cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: 600quid a week? I'd be surprised if that's all he is on Why not? We are by all accounts the third lowest wage budget in the country & Bair was never brought in as an assumed starting 11 man but rather a squad player to work on. And he is young. He will have done well in terms of bonuses but i wouldnt be surprised if he is one of our lower earners (in terms of basic) Saying that, i have no idea what a lower earner at MFC will be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: 600quid a week? I'd be surprised if that's all he is on He won't be on big money...mind no one wanted to touch him including a lot of our fans and he was a " project" ....quite ironic we are now having this thread...won't work out but let's give guys a chance before we write them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Big Stall said: Why not? We are by all accounts the third lowest wage budget in the country & Bair was never brought in as an assumed starting 11 man but rather a squad player to work on. And he is young. He will have done well in terms of bonuses but i wouldnt be surprised if he is one of our lower earners (in terms of basic) Saying that, i have no idea what a lower earner at MFC will be on. I think some on here have an unrealistic view of just how much a typical Motherwell player earns. We are now used to describing your average footballers wages in the 10's of thousands etc but for me I think that's fantasy land when discussing Motherwell. There may be 1 or 2 senior players on maybe 2 or 3k a week, but I believe the vast majority of the squad are on significantly lower wages than that so £600 a week may be nearer the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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