2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion

[weeyin]

I know it's optimal to get players in early, but it's 12 weeks until the window closes. 

In particular, if we plan to bring in loans from down south, that usually happens later rather than sooner.

As usual, I imagine the first starting lineup in the league cup will bear little resemblance to our starting lineups in September.

[weeyin]

4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year 

Even if we don't play with fullbacks?

[wellfan]

4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year 

If we go with a traditional back four next season, I think Wilson would do the job just fine. As for Thompson, he doesn’t offer much going forward or defensively, so I would be disappointed if we gave him another deal.

 

[wellfan]

1 minute ago, weeyin said:

I know it's optimal to get players in early, but it's 12 weeks until the window closes. 

In particular, if we plan to bring in loans from down south, that usually happens later rather than sooner.

As usual, I imagine the first starting lineup in the league cup will bear little resemblance to our starting lineups in September.

I’ve got no issue with using loanees in principle, but I’ve raised concerns before about relying too heavily on them to build a squad. You’re right that there’s still plenty of time before the window closes, but that doesn’t change the fact that we should be aiming to go into pre-season and the League Cup with a near-complete squad, where feasible. 

[AllyMax]

11 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year 

Would have liked to have kept Seddon. 

[santheman]

14 minutes ago, wellfan said:

If we go with a traditional back four next season, I think Wilson would do the job just fine. As for Thompson, he doesn’t offer much going forward or defensively, so I would be disappointed if we gave him another deal.

 

Saw Wilson playing the traditional left back position for Beith and he was easily their best olayer that season when they won the WOSL Premier League title. Definitely looks happier playing in that role although he was used as a wing back on occasion as well.

Wouldn't have any qualms about him as a LB in a back 4.

 

[weeyin]

So Paton to to Killie then?

[wellfan]

3 minutes ago, santheman said:

Saw Wilson playing the traditional left back position for Beith and he was easily their best olayer that season when they won the WOSL Premier League title. Definitely looks happier playing in that role although he was used as a wing back on occasion as well.

Wouldn't have any qualms about him as a LB in a back 4.

 

That’s the thing. We’ve now got a chance to build a balanced squad and finally play players in their proper positions. 

[weeyin]

10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

That’s the thing. We’ve now got a chance to build a balanced squad and finally play players in their proper positions. 

So no more "can play anywhere across the front three, number 10 or wingback" signings?

[joewarkfanclub]

Seddon > Thompson.

Only issue was his ability to stay fit.

I wouldnt be offering Thompson a new contract. Good athlete, but not a good enough footballer, even at our level.

Paton and Davor Im cool with.

Letting Moses go also makes sense. He would have been a good impact sub, but with Robinson, Nicholson and Stuparevic all injured we need a couple players who can start games. The others can fill the bench if they get fit.

[wellfan]

6 minutes ago, weeyin said:

So no more "can play anywhere across the front three, number 10 or wingback" signings?

Absolutely. Who needs quality when you can have quantity?

[Spiderpig]

17 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Seddon > Thompson.

Only issue was his ability to stay fit.

I wouldnt be offering Thompson a new contract. Good athlete, but not a good enough footballer, even at our level.

Paton and Davor Im cool with.

Letting Moses go also makes sense. He would have been a good impact sub, but with Robinson, Nicholson and Stuparevic all injured we need a couple players who can start games. The others can fill the bench if they get fit.

For me Robinson and Nicholson need to go as soon as they're fit, as they are never going to be good enough.

[FirParkCornerExile]

38 minutes ago, weeyin said:

So Paton to to Killie then?

I think at least two of those 4 will end up at Kilmarnock , my bets are on Paton and Seddon....Ebyie at a push.

[Spit_It_Out]

If Thompson is the answer to the left back position then I seriously want to know who is making these decisions cause it isn't the new man in charge that's for sure.Terrible decision to offer him terms it must be Daws doing this.

As for the rest no tears from me tbh we need fresh faces in this team and I hope some of the current squad leave to make room for more new blood.

 

[weeyin]

16 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

If Thompson is the answer to the left back position then I seriously want to know who is making these decisions cause it isn't the new man in charge that's for sure.Terrible decision to offer him terms it must be Daws doing this.

 

Daws doesn't get to offer players new contracts.

[wellgirl]

I think Paton is most likely to end up at Killie. Sorry to see Seddon go. He's the one out of the four I'd like to have kept. 

[texanwellfan]

Who are the remaining players we are still in dialogue with? 

[wellgirl]

3 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Who are the remaining players we are still in dialogue with? 

Thompson and Connelly 

[weeyin]

Of course, the "dialogue" might be "Do you know any good players we can sign?"

[joewarkfanclub]

1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

For me Robinson and Nicholson need to go as soon as they're fit, as they are never going to be good enough.

I dont disagree. I would include Stuparevic in that unless he has had an epiphany and realises he needs to back up his talent with hard work.

Much will depend on when they are fir to return to training, when the window is due to open and whether we can engineer moves for them taking into account our contractual obligatikns to them.

 

[wellfan]

5 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I dont disagree. I would include Stuparevic in that unless he has had an epiphany and realises he needs to back up his talent with hard work.

Much will depend on when they are fir to return to training, when the window is due to open and whether we can engineer moves for them taking into account our contractual obligatikns to them.

Stama probably falls into that category too, unfortunately. Based on what we've seen this season, it's hard to imagine him making any real impact over the next 2 years.

[weeyin]

Who knows? Maybe the new manager will have a training regime that doesn't crock 3 first team players per week.

[purestate]

3 hours ago, weeyin said:

So Paton to to Killie then?

Almost guaranteed we’ll get hammered by Killie with midfield dream team of Polwarth and Paton with a couple of stunners and taking turns to slip Moses in for a brace. 

[wunderwell]

2 hours ago, wellfan said:

Stama probably falls into that category too, unfortunately. Based on what we've seen this season, it's hard to imagine him making any real impact over the next 2 years.

Disagree. based on talent Stama could be a great player for us.

Unless you mean based around a probable common sense hunch he wants out of Fir Park

[Kmcalpin]

I'm a bit puzzled by the "still negotiating" and recently released players. Of the original 5, I would have thought the most likely to leave would be Moses and Matty Connelly. In the latter's case he is now 22 and we already have a back up keeper in Callum Ward.  Jack McConnell is our development  squad goalie, aged 17. Connelly has never played for the first team and obviously wasn't trusted when we had a keeper crisis last January.  What is his future? Dom Thompson I expected to leave. Of the 5 the only one I would have retained keeping was Steve Seddon and he's moving on. 

Still this does clear the decks a bit for our new man coming in.