weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year Even if we don't play with fullbacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year If we go with a traditional back four next season, I think Wilson would do the job just fine. As for Thompson, he doesn’t offer much going forward or defensively, so I would be disappointed if we gave him another deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 1 minute ago, weeyin said: I know it's optimal to get players in early, but it's 12 weeks until the window closes. In particular, if we plan to bring in loans from down south, that usually happens later rather than sooner. As usual, I imagine the first starting lineup in the league cup will bear little resemblance to our starting lineups in September. I’ve got no issue with using loanees in principle, but I’ve raised concerns before about relying too heavily on them to build a squad. You’re right that there’s still plenty of time before the window closes, but that doesn’t change the fact that we should be aiming to go into pre-season and the League Cup with a near-complete squad, where feasible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Sorry to see Seddon go, would be worried if Wilson and Thompson are our left back options next year Would have liked to have kept Seddon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 14 minutes ago, wellfan said: If we go with a traditional back four next season, I think Wilson would do the job just fine. As for Thompson, he doesn’t offer much going forward or defensively, so I would be disappointed if we gave him another deal. Saw Wilson playing the traditional left back position for Beith and he was easily their best olayer that season when they won the WOSL Premier League title. Definitely looks happier playing in that role although he was used as a wing back on occasion as well. Wouldn't have any qualms about him as a LB in a back 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 So Paton to to Killie then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, santheman said: Saw Wilson playing the traditional left back position for Beith and he was easily their best olayer that season when they won the WOSL Premier League title. Definitely looks happier playing in that role although he was used as a wing back on occasion as well. Wouldn't have any qualms about him as a LB in a back 4. That’s the thing. We’ve now got a chance to build a balanced squad and finally play players in their proper positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 10 minutes ago, wellfan said: That’s the thing. We’ve now got a chance to build a balanced squad and finally play players in their proper positions. So no more "can play anywhere across the front three, number 10 or wingback" signings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Seddon > Thompson. Only issue was his ability to stay fit. I wouldnt be offering Thompson a new contract. Good athlete, but not a good enough footballer, even at our level. Paton and Davor Im cool with. Letting Moses go also makes sense. He would have been a good impact sub, but with Robinson, Nicholson and Stuparevic all injured we need a couple players who can start games. The others can fill the bench if they get fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, weeyin said: So no more "can play anywhere across the front three, number 10 or wingback" signings? Absolutely. Who needs quality when you can have quantity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 17 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Seddon > Thompson. Only issue was his ability to stay fit. I wouldnt be offering Thompson a new contract. Good athlete, but not a good enough footballer, even at our level. Paton and Davor Im cool with. Letting Moses go also makes sense. He would have been a good impact sub, but with Robinson, Nicholson and Stuparevic all injured we need a couple players who can start games. The others can fill the bench if they get fit. For me Robinson and Nicholson need to go as soon as they're fit, as they are never going to be good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 38 minutes ago, weeyin said: So Paton to to Killie then? I think at least two of those 4 will end up at Kilmarnock , my bets are on Paton and Seddon....Ebyie at a push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 If Thompson is the answer to the left back position then I seriously want to know who is making these decisions cause it isn't the new man in charge that's for sure.Terrible decision to offer him terms it must be Daws doing this. As for the rest no tears from me tbh we need fresh faces in this team and I hope some of the current squad leave to make room for more new blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 16 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: If Thompson is the answer to the left back position then I seriously want to know who is making these decisions cause it isn't the new man in charge that's for sure.Terrible decision to offer him terms it must be Daws doing this. Daws doesn't get to offer players new contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Who are the remaining players we are still in dialogue with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Of course, the "dialogue" might be "Do you know any good players we can sign?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: For me Robinson and Nicholson need to go as soon as they're fit, as they are never going to be good enough. I dont disagree. I would include Stuparevic in that unless he has had an epiphany and realises he needs to back up his talent with hard work. Much will depend on when they are fir to return to training, when the window is due to open and whether we can engineer moves for them taking into account our contractual obligatikns to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 5 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I dont disagree. I would include Stuparevic in that unless he has had an epiphany and realises he needs to back up his talent with hard work. Much will depend on when they are fir to return to training, when the window is due to open and whether we can engineer moves for them taking into account our contractual obligatikns to them. Stama probably falls into that category too, unfortunately. Based on what we've seen this season, it's hard to imagine him making any real impact over the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Who knows? Maybe the new manager will have a training regime that doesn't crock 3 first team players per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purestate Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, weeyin said: So Paton to to Killie then? Almost guaranteed we’ll get hammered by Killie with midfield dream team of Polwarth and Paton with a couple of stunners and taking turns to slip Moses in for a brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, wellfan said: Stama probably falls into that category too, unfortunately. Based on what we've seen this season, it's hard to imagine him making any real impact over the next 2 years. Disagree. based on talent Stama could be a great player for us. Unless you mean based around a probable common sense hunch he wants out of Fir Park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 I'm a bit puzzled by the "still negotiating" and recently released players. Of the original 5, I would have thought the most likely to leave would be Moses and Matty Connelly. In the latter's case he is now 22 and we already have a back up keeper in Callum Ward. Jack McConnell is our development squad goalie, aged 17. Connelly has never played for the first team and obviously wasn't trusted when we had a keeper crisis last January. What is his future? Dom Thompson I expected to leave. Of the 5 the only one I would have retained was Steve Seddon and he's moving on. Still this does clear the decks a bit for our new man coming in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 What happened to we need rid of everyone but Ox, new team required ,get rid of the injury prone jinks , has beens non triers and send loanees back.. I love it , close season discussion with no reference to what's been posted before. 🤪 if I recall correctly Miller and Sneddon were only ones worth keeping. And Sneddons a bit of a perma crock I still think there is a player in Thomson somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Did the loan rules allow a recall of Connelly last Jan? Regardless, I don't really take much notice of the messaging from the club at this time of year. It's all meaningless until an actual contract is signed and actual clearance obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Reads like several players were offered terms. All loanees should have been returned to sender and those not playing every week who're out of contract should have been automatically released. Good point was made earlier re clearing the decks. I don't think we're being strong enough. For me we're far too accommodating to many average Joe's. Concerning that people are watching these guys every week and think we should continue to pay them. I can't help but think it's partly due to being led by a society rather than a single owner. A single owner with their own money being wasted would be less tolerant. Having triggers in contracts that keeps aging and average players on the books together with these negotiations doesn't fill me with confidence that we're a tightly run ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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