well_said Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 56 minutes ago, wellgirl said: He's just been made one of the vice captains so I assume he's very much part of JBA's plans going forward Doesn't mean he's any good. My opinion and many others opinion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, well_said said: He looks slow against an arthritic with two walking sticks. When did you see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, well_said said: Must be something he sees there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Yoshi-1991 said: Cant put my finger on why but its reminding me of the Jim Gannon rebuild era. If it is as successful as JG'd rebuild then we are onto a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 40 minutes ago, star sail said: If it is as successful as JG'd rebuild then we are onto a good thing. 💯 this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 I'm quite excited about this group. I do think the squad is too big and people may need to go on loan or be released, however I'm happy that we are recruiting better quality, hopefully more quality than English non league that we been used to past few years. I'm so looking forward to us cooking st Mirren and Kilmarnock. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 My son's just said Elijah looks like Messi in videos he's seen lol ⚽ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 I think it's fairly obvious that the 4 people who are vice captains are experienced pros who can guide the more inexperienced new signings in the football world. I don't believe it is a marker for how many times these individuals will play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 14 minutes ago, wunderwell said: I think it's fairly obvious that the 4 people who are vice captains are experienced pros who can guide the more inexperienced new signings in the football world. I don't believe it is a marker for how many times these individuals will play. I think you've hit the nail on the head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 We really have pushed the boat out in the past few weeks, strengthening midfield and up front. That's great. However, I still worry that the defence will ship goals. I know there are issues there with the number of legacy players but JBA may still want to shake things up in that department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 13 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: We really have pushed the boat out in the past few weeks, strengthening midfield and up front. That's great. However, I still worry that the defence will ship goals. I know there are issues there with the number of legacy players but JBA may still want to shake things up in that department. I think I'm really looking forward to this season if we get two guns in the defensive area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 JBA will definitely want his own man in defence, someone with the physical attributes that is also comfortable with the ball. Hopefully a commanding goalie is also on his radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, Lobey_Dosser said: JBA will definitely want his own man in defence, someone with the physical attributes that is also comfortable with the ball. Hopefully a commanding goalie is also on his radar. Gordon strolled thru the first phase of games for us last season ,he can’t suddenly just turn shite. Need to take into account previous manager lost the plot after those games. Still think he’s a good defender. Looks like Ox will have this injury hanging over him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, Lobey_Dosser said: JBA will definitely want his own man in defence, someone with the physical attributes that is also comfortable with the ball. Hopefully a commanding goalie is also on his radar. Agreed a solid centre back and a keeper that will command his area, come for cross balls etc takes a whole lot of pressure away from the rest of the defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 49 minutes ago, stv said: Gordon strolled thru the first phase of games for us last season ,he can’t suddenly just turn shite. Need to take into account previous manager lost the plot after those games. Still think he’s a good defender. Looks like Ox will have this injury hanging over him for a while. Gordons fine when he's played to his core strengths of defending high balls and clearing his lines, not so sure how he'll cope with playing it out from the back which looks like the way we'll be set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, stv said: Gordon strolled thru the first phase of games for us last season ,he can’t suddenly just turn shite. Need to take into account previous manager lost the plot after those games. Still think he’s a good defender. Looks like Ox will have this injury hanging over him for a while. Gordon was poor in his latter games for St J and after a brief encouraging start with us he then reverted to little better than the rest. Positional and ball retention, trying to play out hardly inspiring. There has to be a player in there given his earlier St J performances and I think he found playing in a back three especially difficult. I have hopes that in a back four, concentrating on defensive duties, we will see the player we hoped we had signed. But he needs a partnership and I do not think Balmer is that player. So yes we need a CB that the Manager knows and trusts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, dennyc said: Gordon was poor in his latter games for St J and after a brief encouraging start with us he then reverted to little better than the rest. Positional and ball retention, trying to play out hardly inspiring. There has to be a player in there given his earlier St J performances and I think he found playing in a back three especially difficult. I have hopes that in a back four, concentrating on defensive duties, we will see the player we hoped we had signed. But he needs a partnership and I do not think Balmer is that player. So yes we need a CB that the Manager knows and trusts. Agree about Balmer and hopefully the new manager plays the game to Gordon's strengths and coaches him a bit, not like our previous manager who seemed to go out his way to play his players out of their natural and preferred positions. I think he did that with evey position in the team except the goal keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Safe to say Balmer should be resigned to being a sub for the rest of the season Ive said it on here before..........the guy gives me the fear every single time I see his name in our starting 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 9 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Safe to say Balmer should be resigned to being a sub for the rest of the season Ive said it on here before..........the guy gives me the fear every single time I see his name in our starting 11 Are there any defenders from the past 2 seasons that make you think different - because I'd struggle to think of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Clearout at the back required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 9 minutes ago, Orinoco said: Clearout at the back required. I agree and have being saying that for thenpast couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Do we have any defender on our books who's decision making and concentration merits a top league salary? They never learn from their mistakes. They can't do the basics in defending, never mind pass a ball. I think a coach trying to improve them is folly. Just get rid somehow and start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 I thought Gordon was worse than Balmer today, and balmer was bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Difficult to tell on that abomination of a pitch and in that heat but first impressions Watt - Tidy player, did the basics well. I think he'll turn out to be a very good signing. Sule - Raw, has the tools to frighten defenders though. A bit too keen to go down looking for fouls maybe... Just - Looks a good player. Couple of really good moments in his 30 minutes. Also seemed willing to take responsibility late in the game by dropping deep to get the ball and try and make something happen. Fadinger. Some nice touches and worked hard. Not sure where he fits in the team. Don't think he's a winger.. Longelo - His first game so don't want to be too harsh but he looked nowhere near ready. Basics like first touch were missing. Maybe not up to speed yet as English teams start back earlier? Not writing anyone off after one appearance, just my first impressions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Forget what I said before. Today made it very clear this team is missing a spine. We need a GK, CH, CM, and CF. All of them starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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