grizzlyg Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Jonesy said: AP has a scoring rate of around 1 goal every 3 games for Motherwell. More than reasonable. Hendry is currently sitting on something like 1 every 16. It's pretty clear which is better. I like Stama but feel better in a front 2 which ain't going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, wunderwell said: He's absolutely class. We love technically gifted players. He could win us a trophy. He’s 36 and probably looking for way more than we can pay him. He’s on 7K a week and turned down offers of around 20K a week from Milwall and Middlesbrough. Plus we Would have to pay a transfer fee to get him from a club who really don’t want to sell him. So I not sure why he would be linked to Motherwell. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: He’s 36 and probably looking for way more than we can pay him. He’s on 7K a week and turned down offers of around 20K a week from Milwall and Middlesbrough. Plus we Would have to pay a transfer fee to get him from a club who really don’t want to sell him. So I not sure why he would be linked to Motherwell. . I agree with the wages/transfer fee part no doubt and I don't think it will happen at all. But would I have him - undoubtedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Jonesy said: AP has a scoring rate of around 1 goal every 3 games for Motherwell. More than reasonable. Hendry is currently sitting on something like 1 every 16. It's pretty clear which is better. True, but how many of those goals are from open play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago The problem with AP is that he has a couple of significant faults in his play. Most players have responded to the coaching of JBA but I don't believe AP has at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 21 minutes ago, wunderwell said: I agree with the wages/transfer fee part no doubt and I don't think it will happen at all. But would I have him - undoubtedly I agree, but you never know he just might want to return home to Lanarkshire and given what he has contributed to SW they might do him and therefore us a good turn Even at his age, he looks fitter, more mobile and technically better than players 10 years younger. As a short term addition and if available on decent terms I think he would be a good addition. Hopefully wrong, but I expect one of our regular midfielders to move on this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: True, but how many of those goals are from open play? This season only 2, last season probably all of them? If he'd scored some of the chances he should have this season he'd almost be sitting on a goal every other game, which would be incredible for a Motherwell player, but then we'd probably not have Maswanhise sitting on 12 either. Last season he racked up the numbers despite spending half the year injured and the other half chasing lost cause long balls with no other Motherwell players within 40 yards of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, Jonesy said: AP has a scoring rate of around 1 goal every 3 games for Motherwell. More than reasonable. Hendry is currently sitting on something like 1 every 16. It's pretty clear which is better. Are you sure about those figures. He's played 43 games for us and scored 12 goals 5 of which are penalties. So his scoring rate from open play is 7 goals from 43 games. I grant you still better than Hendry mind you hendry has only played 15 games. Fact remains neither are worth keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, Jonesy said: AP has a scoring rate of around 1 goal every 3 games for Motherwell. More than reasonable. Not good enough, taking into account the pens, his open play record and the number of games he has played for us his are stats are shite. He's been a waste of good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago The frustrating thing for Stama is he was bought by a manager to play a particular style and that manager then played him up top by himself rendering him impotent. He now has a manager who plays a possession based low risk game, again rendering him impotent. He would actually be a perfect fit for St Mirren alongside one of their giants. The amount of thru balls and crosses a Robbo team puts in the box would have his numbers looking pretty good. Regardless. Its clear Jens isnt for changing (neither should he) and a striker that fits our current style will be incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago The thing is with AP he has missed a ton of proper goal scoring opportunities like sitters by the barrell load so he isn't doing what he is been hired too do so needs to be replaced.Didnt really fit in with Kettlewell isolation hoofball and doesn't fit in with JBA style so no option but to part ways. Hendry and I hate to say this is utterly useless I still haven't seen anything from him on what he actually offers I actually want to know why he was brought in the first place failing to see how he fits in with the way we play. Hopefully whoever comes in can contribute a wee bit more then we shall win the league by April! Up the Well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago If either of Stama or Hendry goes this window, it’s Stama. He’s 18 months into a 3-year deal and clearly not up to it. Hendry’s only 6 months into a 2-year deal and probably deserves a bit longer, but I’m not convinced he’ll come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 57 minutes ago Report Share Posted 57 minutes ago 34 minutes ago, wellfan said: If either of Stama or Hendry goes this window, it’s Stama. He’s 18 months into a 3-year deal and clearly not up to it. Hendry’s only 6 months into a 2-year deal and probably deserves a bit longer, but I’m not convinced he’ll come good. Given Hendry is injured, I think you are correct. I know we have danced this dance before, but Stama was injured for the majority of his first 12 months, so although your logic in respect of contracts is sound, I dont believe in football terms there has been a lot of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 54 minutes ago Report Share Posted 54 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Spit_It_Out said: The thing is with AP he has missed a ton of proper goal scoring opportunities like sitters by the barrell load so he isn't doing what he is been hired too do so needs to be replaced. I dont recall all these chances Stama has missed? Yes he has missed key chances, ones that would have won us more games. He has also missed a couple of straightforward ones. But tonnes? I dont think the evidence is there for that. Its clear though Jens has made his assessment and he feels he needs someone different. So best cut our losses and try get our money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 37 minutes ago Report Share Posted 37 minutes ago 18 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Given Hendry is injured, I think you are correct. I know we have danced this dance before, but Stama was injured for the majority of his first 12 months, so although your logic in respect of contracts is sound, I dont believe in football terms there has been a lot of difference. We’ll probably both agree soon enough they’re busted flushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 30 minutes ago Report Share Posted 30 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, wellfan said: We’ll probably both agree soon enough they’re busted flushes. If the big Viking signs, Im happy to agree now! (Unless of course he doesnt actually run around smashing anyone and also cant score goals) 😍😍😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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