2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion

[grizzlyg]

7 minutes ago, mio said:

You could see he was fuming…. Shaking his head as he ran off. I feel for the lad as he has been Actively trying to leave, going to Belgium last year and then coming to us. 

anyway it does look like Blantyre Celtic are through to the next round now 2-0….. wow
 

I hope we can get a deal for him. His attitude been first class and clearly loves the place.  We signed kelly from qpr when he was on big wage so surely can work something out

[Orinoco]

Knowing them they will want cash and JT. They are the Trump of scottish football.

Lets not forget all the times they have screwed us over.

I hope Welsh comes back, but only on our terms. After all we are developing one of their players so they can sell at a big fee.

[fizoxy]

Has there been a player+cash deal lately? I cant think of one, as they're generally just paper talk. The outgoing player would have a ridiculous amount of leverage, as he'd be holding 2 clubs to ransom. 

[texanwellfan]

It looks like Celtic (not Welsh) have knocked back a few bids for him over several years so I’m not really sure what the their position is with him. They could save themselves about 780000 pounds by letting him go now instead of keeping him till end of contract or Let him play with us for remainder of season amd then actually sell him for some good money, saving part of his wages from this season plus last season of his contract. If they clearly don’t want him they should cut their losses. 

[Orinoco]

Its hard to know as there alot of undisclosed deals these days. 

 

[Orinoco]

Heres the draw.

Rangers will be home.

Celtic will get lowest league team.

[mio]

Oh FFS

[Orinoco]

Aberdeen away. But our away form aint as good as home form. Can see a tight low scoring game going the full distance.

[Orinoco]

They are cronic just now.

[texanwellfan]

I was hoping one of the arse checks would get that kind of draw 

[mio]

We’ll be a TV game I’d think? The other ties all look really gash!! 

[Orinoco]

Shock that Rangers are home yet again. 

[joewarkfanclub]

Celtic and Rangers both with home ties so we will 100% be one of the tv games.

Hopefully Friday night on the BBC.

Or maybe the Sat night game.

Dont want Sunday afternoon.

[Kmcalpin]

I really don't know what Celtic are playing at with Welsh. Either way, he won't be happy. 

[well_said]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

Dear Martin............£8 million and Maswanhise is yours

Dear Martin ........ go and take a flying fuck to yourself.

[wellfan]

You’ve got to feel for Welsh. That mob are a disgrace. Rotten to the core. 

[bobbybingo]

19 minutes ago, wellfan said:

You’ve got to feel for Welsh. That mob are a disgrace. Rotten to the core. 

I don't buy the 'deliberately cup tie him' angle. Unless we were planning on buying Welsh, he couldn't have played for us against Celtic anyway. Playing him today shows he wasn't brought back with the intention of flogging him to anyone else in January, and subbing him proves he has no future at Parkhead.

That suggests O'Neill brought him back as a fuck you to the board, or a fuck you to Welsh. No idea what he could have against the player, so my money would be on the first - but that still results in the second.

[The African]

With regard to the Welsh situation, I think it is probable that a few people are overthinking the whole thing. Celtic are simply doing what they consider is best for them. They are in no way trying to screw us over. They don't care. The same goes for the player and his future.

As such, I think it would be wise for us to act in a similar manner and ask ourselves what would be the best course of action in this situation for ourselves?

If we can get Welsh back to Fir Park on the same terms as before, for the rest of the season then great. He has been an excellent player for us and there is no reason to think that will change.

If they are thinking about making a move for JT and using Welsh as a bargaining chip then they can take a hike. Selling our prized assets to anyone in our league is generally a poor move as it, quite rightly, upsets our own fans and they will be offering less than we can get elsewhere if we really feel the need to sell.

[0Neils40yarder]

5 hours ago, mio said:

Yep, he starts. No surprise i suppose 

I might have fancied Talbot if they had played at their own ground but they’ve sold their sole and cashed in 

Something fishy about this

[mio]

I just do not see JT wanting to move to another team in Scotland? Why would he? There’s clearly teams down south looking at him, I know he’s a Zimbabwean international but his ties are in England, he’ll want eventually move down there and prove his worth and also get paid more than any other side will offer up here.

i dont really have any concerns of the talk from the Klarna twins and there payment plans.

my main concern is our manager getting bored of Scottish football by playing Aberdeen 5 times before the middle of February. 

 

[dennyc]

If we had a spate of injuries and were short of players for a position, would those getting their knickers in a twist about Welsh react the same way if we recalled a loanee whose wages we were paying to see if he could fill the gap? Especially if he was performing at an exceptional level.  Pretty sure I read on here that some folk thought it would be a good idea to recall Whyte from Stenhousemuir to see if he could do a job in our midfield as cover for Watt or Slattery or perhaps sit on our bench to give us more options.

Celtic are perfectly within their rights to recall Welsh to see if he can improve their current squad, bearing in mind injuries and other players moved on in this window. We knew that when he came to us as the recall date was included in the Agreement. If he does not cut it in training or game time he will be back with us soon enough, if we want him. 

All this talk about conspiracies, victimisation etc is nonsense. The situation is inconvenient and might be stalling us bringing in a new face or two. But that's all it is.

 

 

 

[thewelllfan]

Is there a point in bringing Welsh back it's not his fault but he's now cup tied were realistically not going to win the league so surely we bring in a CB that can play in the only competition we can potentially win. 

[bobbybingo]

42 minutes ago, dennyc said:

If we had a spate of injuries and were short of players for a position, would those getting their knickers in a twist about Welsh react the same way if we recalled a loanee whose wages we were paying to see if he could fill the gap? Especially if he was performing at an exceptional level.  Pretty sure I read on here that some folk thought it would be a good idea to recall Whyte from Stenhousemuir to see if he could do a job in our midfield as cover for Watt or Slattery or perhaps sit on our bench to give us more options.

Celtic are perfectly within their rights to recall Welsh to see if he can improve their current squad, bearing in mind injuries and other players moved on in this window. We knew that when he came to us as the recall date was included in the Agreement. If he does not cut it in training or game time he will be back with us soon enough, if we want him. 

All this talk about conspiracies, victimisation etc is nonsense. The situation is inconvenient and might be stalling us bringing in a new face or two. But that's all it is.

 

 

 

O'Neill recalling Welsh purely to show up the board's lack of signings isn't much of a conspiracy theory, given he basically said that was the reason he did it. 

[joewarkfanclub]

41 minutes ago, dennyc said:

If we had a spate of injuries and were short of players for a position, would those getting their knickers in a twist about Welsh react the same way if we recalled a loanee whose wages we were paying to see if he could fill the gap? Especially if he was performing at an exceptional level.  Pretty sure I read on here that some folk thought it would be a good idea to recall Whyte from Stenhousemuir to see if he could do a job in our midfield as cover for Watt or Slattery or perhaps sit on our bench to give us more options.

Celtic are perfectly within their rights to recall Welsh to see if he can improve their current squad, bearing in mind injuries and other players moved on in this window. We knew that when he came to us as the recall date was included in the Agreement. If he does not cut it in training or game time he will be back with us soon enough, if we want him. 

All this talk about conspiracies, victimisation etc is nonsense. The situation is inconvenient and might be stalling us bringing in a new face or two. But that's all it is.

 

 

 

Strange take from a normally sensible poster.

Who is getting their knickers in a twist?

Of course Celtic are within their rights to recall their player. And absolutely within their rights to play him in the cup tonight.

But given that they have done both of those things, surely any expectation that they can suddenly decide to return him to us out of the goodness of their hearts once they have signed someone better, can be resisted?

We need to do whats best for us. For me, we should get on with finding someone else that can do what Welsh does and not hang about waiting on Celtics "benevolence".

Of course if we get to the window and dont have anyone in the door and the offer is still there, it would be mad to refuse, but is it that crazy to not want to be left at the whim of another club?

[dennyc]

4 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Strange take from a normally sensible poster.

Who is getting their knickers in a twist?

Of course Celtic are within their rights to recall their player. And absolutely within their rights to play him in the cup tonight.

But given that they have done both of those things, surely any expectation that they can suddenly decide to return him to us out of the goodness of their hearts once they have signed someone better, can be resisted?

We need to do whats best for us. For me, we should get on with finding someone else that can do what Welsh does and not hang about waiting on Celtics "benevolence".

Of course if we get to the window and dont have anyone in the door and the offer is still there, it would be mad to refuse, but is it that crazy to not want to be left at the whim of another club?

So other than the knickers in a twist comment we more or less agree?

Nothing to do with the goodness of their hearts though. If having had a look at Welsh in light of his form with us, Celtic decide he still does not cut it then why not offload him to the only place he can go. If Motherwell agree. Surely that is best for all parties?