stv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 49 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Wooo dismissing St Mirren at our peril. 😂😂 We are due them a brubin ,in a cup game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, grizzlyg said: We won't know until he gives Ox a chance. As I have said before we have 10 Outfield players to do the footballing part, I want my keepers collecting crosses and saving shots Our system doesnt work that way. We need the keeper to step up and be an extra player at the back to create the space to play out. If Jens is watching Ox in training he will know whether rhe is capable of that or not. Id wager thats why he supported Ward so strongly after the repeated mistakes. Id also wager he will do the same again after this one....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Richie said: Crazy pass from Ward, but equally Watt/Fadinger, whoever it was, could have popped it to Longelo at LB, rather than back to Ward. Or Ward could have taken the simple, easy and sensible option of just booting it up the park as far as possible and we would not have lost a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyhonest Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Think this hurts so much cause of the progress we have made and certainly at the moment Celtic seem to be flat. Maybe it was our best chance to get something for a good while It’s really early in our new system and with the injury to folk like Just Sule Slattery we are maybe a bit light in the depth department. That to me though is the managers job development these players and bring up the quality overall. It’s only game 7 in the league. If we continue with these types of performances I think we will do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Our system doesnt work that way. We need the keeper to step up and be an extra player at the back to create the space to play out. If Jens is watching Ox in training he will know whether rhe is capable of that or not. Id wager thats why he supported Ward so strongly after the repeated mistakes. Id also wager he will do the same again after this one....... There is also other options in January I'd a goalie becomes available that is good with his hands and feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Our system doesnt work that way. We need the keeper to step up and be an extra player at the back to create the space to play out. If Jens is watching Ox in training he will know whether rhe is capable of that or not. Id wager thats why he supported Ward so strongly after the repeated mistakes. Id also wager he will do the same again after this one....... The errors made by Ward are nothing to do with the system JBA is asking the players to play, they are pure and simply him making a complete James Hunt of it and failing to meet the basic requirements of a goal keeper, ie catching the ball or not passing it straight to an opposition player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Our system doesnt work that way. We need the keeper to step up and be an extra player at the back to create the space to play out. If Jens is watching Ox in training he will know whether rhe is capable of that or not. Id wager thats why he supported Ward so strongly after the repeated mistakes. Id also wager he will do the same again after this one....... He was careful in his after match interview not to mention any specific mistakes or single out anyone as being the cause of our defeat so I agree with your last statement. I’m thinking there will be some discussion to try and make sure we don’t repeat avoidable mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: The errors made by Ward are nothing to do with the system JBA is asking the players to play, they are pure and simply him making a complete James Hunt of it and failing to meet the basic requirements of a goal keeper, ie catching the ball or not passing it straight to an opposition player. Sorry but I disagree. Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. If the manager tries to drum into you in training that you dont just hoof it and goes on at lengths to show why doing so was why we lost against Hearts, then you can understand why Ward was reluctant to put the laces through it today. Its still a bad decision. He should hoof it. But this is a team having to learn an entirely new way of playing. We all feared that this was the type of goal we would conceed, so no surprise that it has happened, other than its taken this long. The important thing is whether he/we learn from this and can avoid doing the same again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: He was careful in his after match interview not to mention any specific mistakes or single out anyone as being the cause of our defeat so I agree with your last statement. I’m thinking there will be some discussion to try and make sure we don’t repeat avoidable mistakes. Its almost as if Jens is a good manager who knows what he is doing! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, joewarkfanclub said: Sorry but I disagree. Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. If the manager tries to drum into you in training that you dont just hoof it and goes on at lengths to show why doing so was why we lost against Hearts, then you can understand why Ward was reluctant to put the laces through it today. Its still a bad decision. He should hoof it. But this is a team having to learn an entirely new way of playing. We all feared that this was the type of goal we would conceed, so no surprise that it has happened, other than its taken this long. The important thing is whether he/we learn from this and can avoid doing the same again. For me , hearts game he spills a shot.....killie game ...spills a simple catch....today.....bonkers pass to opposition. His errors aren't just down to new style. Nice lad and doing his best but imo how many more games is he going to cost us before JBA needs to be ruthless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, grizzlyg said: For me , hearts game he spills a shot.....killie game ...spills a simple catch....today.....bonkers pass to opposition. His errors aren't just down to new style. Nice lad and doing his best but imo how many more games is he going to cost us before JBA needs to be ruthless Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. 🙄🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. 🙄🙄🙄 Agree totally, but point is they are all mistakes he has made. Surely Ox cant be that bad that he doesn't deserve at least a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. 🙄🙄🙄 He can make lots of types of errors/mistakes then? That don't make it better. I'm with Grizzly. Hoped the best for him but he's costing us points. He also can't command his area and can't deal with crosses. Falkirk goin to put pressure on him on next game , knowing he's liable to make error and test him with crosses also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Blues Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Agree totally, but point is they are all mistakes he has made. Surely Ox cant be that bad that he doesn't deserve at least a chance? 3 minutes ago, robsterwood said: He can make lots of types of errors/mistakes then? That don't make it better. I'm with Grizzly. Hoped the best for him but he's costing us points. He also can't command his area and can't deal with crosses. Falkirk goin to put pressure on him on next game , knowing he's liable to make error and test him with crosses also. The supposed big point in his favour, which atoned for other sins, was that he was good with his feet. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago In other news Martin sacked. Bizarrely he has same record in league as JBA. We are getting loads of praise, just shows you expectations of clubs. Personally I think JBA has been great appointment and is getting us there slowly but surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretband Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Just watching Sportscene. First half the maswanhise shot from the tight angle. Keeper saves it then think it’s Carter Vickers simply plays it back to him and Schmeichel catches it. Wtf??Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsterwood Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Dundee let Carson go to Ross county. He was good with his feet and hands. I'm thinking they didn't want him to go to rival club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 49 minutes ago Report Share Posted 49 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, robsterwood said: Dundee let Carson go to Ross county. He was good with his feet and hands. I'm thinking they didn't want him to go to rival club. He also cant train due to injuries. He just looks after himself and turns up on matchdays. All fine as ling as he is playing well. Can just imagine this place if he made a mistake! "What we doing signing a guy who cant train! We shouldnt be a retirement home for former players!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 38 minutes ago Report Share Posted 38 minutes ago 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Sorry but I disagree. Firstly, Id seperate the previous handling errors from this one as they are not the same type of mistake. If the manager tries to drum into you in training that you dont just hoof it and goes on at lengths to show why doing so was why we lost against Hearts, then you can understand why Ward was reluctant to put the laces through it today. Its still a bad decision. He should hoof it. But this is a team having to learn an entirely new way of playing. We all feared that this was the type of goal we would conceed, so no surprise that it has happened, other than its taken this long. The important thing is whether he/we learn from this and can avoid doing the same again. If the pass hadn’t gone astray and got to the intended Motherwell player then Ward would have taken out 5 of the Celtic outfield players with one pass, leaving plenty of room for out midfield and strikes to exploit. Yes it’s risk and reward football which when it works is beautiful but when it goes wrong, like today, horrendous. I’m still a believer in it so won’t get too upset about it. Celtic got the breaks today, FFS their penalty came from a McGregor mis-hit shot that bounced up off the ground. It's all ifs, buts and maybes but they definitely got the luck today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 36 minutes ago Report Share Posted 36 minutes ago Calum Ward's error rate is now unsustainable. Yes, keepers do make mistakes, but there comes a point when it really becomes unacceptable, and thats where we are now. The Ox is now due his chance again. If he proves unreliable then we have to move for a new keeper in the January sales. Goalkeeping errors are now costing us big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: In other news Martin sacked. Bizarrely he has same record in league as JBA. We are getting loads of praise, just shows you expectations of clubs. Personally I think JBA has been great appointment and is getting us there slowly but surely I don’t think it’s an expectation thing, I’d say it’s more to do with players willingness to dig in and do the hard work rather then wait for someone else to do it, our players work rate if a hell of a lot more than theirs and for that we should all be grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 22 minutes ago Report Share Posted 22 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Calum Ward's error rate is now unsustainable. Yes, keepers do make mistakes, but there comes a point when it really becomes unacceptable, and thats where we are now. The Ox is now due his chance again. If he proves unreliable then we have to move for a new keeper in the January sales. Goalkeeping errors are now costing us big time. If Ox isnt up to it, its a long time until January if you've burned the only alternative. Im not saying Im happy with the mistakes he has made, but I was more upset about the handling errors in the Hearts and Killie games than today. Not that it makes any difference what any of us think as JBA is going to back him and thats all that counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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