FirParkCornerExile Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Calum Ward's error rate is now unsustainable. Yes, keepers do make mistakes, but there comes a point when it really becomes unacceptable, and thats where we are now. The Ox is now due his chance again. If he proves unreliable then we have to move for a new keeper in the January sales. Goalkeeping errors are now costing us big time. Pretty much how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago What a horrible dream I had. Woke up sweating. We were 2-1 up at Parkhead and doing great until a horrendous howler from Ward then an injury time winner for sellik. Thank God that didn't happen............. Awwww nawwwwww 🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Correct , in any type of play a keeper of ANY standard should be able to deal with that today. He just made an horrendous error of judgement. Sadly too many have been happening to him . The dropped ball against Kilmarnock was not because of our style of play. The two goals against Hearts were not because of our style of play. They were all basic goalkeeping errors. I suspect there will be a finite level of the number of basic errors the manager will accept. If there's a finite amount of errors from Ward that jba is willing to accept we have not reached it yet. Will it be another 4 or 5 games once we're out the cup and dropped more points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, Stuwell2 said: If the pass hadn’t gone astray and got to the intended Motherwell player then Ward would have taken out 5 of the Celtic outfield players with one pass, leaving plenty of room for out midfield and strikes to exploit. Yes it’s risk and reward football which when it works is beautiful but when it goes wrong, like today, horrendous. I’m still a believer in it so won’t get too upset about it. I'm with you on this mate and feel we will learn as most teams will start doing same. I.e putting 5 players up on us at goal kicks. JBA will see this and will develop a play out that will bypass these 5. There must be room elsewhere on pitch if they have 5 to mark our 2cdms and 2 cbs so that will be worked out what to do if this happens again. There is always solutions and I am sure we will find them. As others have said 1st time in years we have gave them a right game and only our lack of subs and 1 bad decision cost us. We are a match for anyone just now and it is great to see. Ps I would keep faith with ward as there is no way ox would give us extra man in playing out from back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago All this chat of get Ward out is so frustrating to read. I would be interested to see how many passes he made in his box while Celtic pushed up to around our 18 yard line, I would guess a fair few. He is being asked to play like this by his manager and is integral to the style of play we now embrace. As soon as he plays it through their press we find gaps and this has been evident in most games this season. Issue is the more you play that move the more chance there is of a mistake happening, which the manager pointed out in his interview. I don’t think Ox can play this way and I would be he would make more mistakes than Ward. It’s the nature of the position that a mistake can lead to a goal, but I don’t think it’s all wards fault. Put it this way if let’s say Welsh made a mistake that led to a goal would we all be jumping on wanting him out the door? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 58 minutes ago Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago Ward’s pass didn’t go astray. There was no forward option to a Motherwell player and he played it straight to a Celtic player. That was poor judgement, not a by-product of the style of play, which doesn’t preclude making a sensible clearance when no options are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 53 minutes ago Report Share Posted 53 minutes ago When you look at expected goal stats score was fair. It's just gutting to throw away 2nd goal and to loose last min goal Mwell average age was 25 and Celtic 27 which is positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 48 minutes ago Report Share Posted 48 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, wellfan said: Ward’s pass didn’t go astray. There was no forward option to a Motherwell player and he played it straight to a Celtic player. Yeah, the takeaway is 2 fold. 1: Ward to atune his decision making in such situations. 2: Players to be alert to it, communicate and try and find space. Its weird, but we want teams to be encouraged to press us high and commit men as if we get through the line, they are then exposed. The way to frustrate us is probably to sit in and force us to play in front of them. Frustrating and what ifs so far, but we have been on top or at least well in the fight every game this season. We may be making mistakes, but were also giving ourselves a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 44 minutes ago Report Share Posted 44 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Richie said: We may be making mistakes, but were also giving ourselves a chance. Yes, but with only one league win by October, we can’t draw and lose our way to any kind of success this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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