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Livingston v Motherwell 31/01/2026


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In hope so!!!

 Going to have to work for it, as in play our style of football and play it well, taking our chances when they come along. 
 Could be another great weekend for us in making gains on teams around us. If we can take 3 points then we will be improving our position with respect to at least 2 of these 4 teams. 

Hibs v Rangers

Celtic v Falkirk. 

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The next 2 games wont define our season. But if we can win them both it will certainly put is in a really strong position in the run in to the split.

Livvy are a tough team to play against, but the league doesnt lie and there must be a reason they havent won since August.

We are much further along the road than we were when we went there last time out, so I expect a much better performance.

If we can keep another clean sheet we should have enough about us to take at least one chance and win the game.

Top 6 is within our grasp. We just need to go take it.

After that we can start looking up the way!

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23 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Saturdays can’t come quick enough at the moment.

agree - what a time to be a Well fan.  The most entertaining football in most of our living memories , fabulous league record and fingers crossed for another cup run. 

We're only 12 points away from securing 4th in the league. 

Keep the good times rolling. 

 

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2 hours ago, wellsince75 said:

agree - what a time to be a Well fan.  The most entertaining football in most of our living memories , fabulous league record and fingers crossed for another cup run. 

We're only 12 points away from securing 4th in the league. 

Keep the good times rolling. 

 

What is your arithmetic for us securing 4th?

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44 minutes ago, thewelllfan said:

think based on previous seasons the team that finish 4th tend to end up anywhere from 50-55 points. We'll need probably 4 more wins in this round and a few draws as well as 1 or 2 wins post split.

Weve taken 40 points from a possible 69 after 23 games thats a bawhair under 58%. If we keep the same percentage or better for the remaining 15 games then we will end up with at least 66 points.

I would suggest a 66 point total would be enough for 4th or maybe 3rd and would see us earn another European adventure.

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BBC have and already out of date (doesn’t include yesterday’s results) analysis of who may win the league which shows us as 5th based on expected goals.  
Basically that methodology has Celtic and Hibs underperforming and Hearts, Rangers, and us over performing in that order.  
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0erdjp0plpo

 

So many other factors to take into account of course but I’d say a win here and the others sharing/dropping points will put us in a strong position to potentially finish 3rd, not just consolidate 4th 

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For anyone with a statistical leaning:

Over the last 10 completed seasons, the maximum number of points achieved by the team that finished 4th was 67 (twice, 17-18 & 18-19); the minimum was 48 (21-22), and the average is 57.2. I hope you will all sleep better now.

Given that Hibs and Falkirk are 5 & 7 pts behind respectively, I reckon 60 will be needed (but that is just a guess).

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17 minutes ago, grumpy said:

For anyone with a statistical leaning:

Over the last 10 completed seasons, the maximum number of points achieved by the team that finished 4th was 67 (twice, 17-18 & 18-19); the minimum was 48 (21-22), and the average is 57.2. I hope you will all sleep better now.

Given that Hibs and Falkirk are 5 & 7 pts behind respectively, I reckon 60 will be needed (but that is just a guess).

👍 yes it’s the range and dispersion of points which is much narrower this year which makes it al lthe more interesting. 
 

Away from the data analytics and towards the🧡, i find it somewhat ironic that while 🎶 “we hate Hearts and we hate Dundee” 🎶 I’ll be willing them both in to get a result today 😀 

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We've already secured our tickets for Saturday in Block N, but it does my head in when clubs, like Livingston, confine fans to strict sections in their stadia, despite there being plenty of space. Just checked again, and it seems that, so far, they're splitting our support up into 2 quite separate blocks, P & Q and M & N, separated by an empty block, O, in the middle. Why? 

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3 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

We've already secured our tickets for Saturday in Block N, but it does my head in when clubs, like Livingston, confine fans to strict sections in their stadia, despite there being plenty of space. Just checked again, and it seems that, so far, they're splitting our support up into 2 quite separate blocks, P & Q and M & N, separated by an empty block, O, in the middle. Why? 

Similarly - as an online fan - whenever I watch games at Livi, I don't understand why they leave their main (?) stand almost completely empty. I looks really crap for the TV cameras, why not at least pretend to the world that they've got a decent crowd in by moving a section over there?

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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

We've already secured our tickets for Saturday in Block N, but it does my head in when clubs, like Livingston, confine fans to strict sections in their stadia, despite there being plenty of space. Just checked again, and it seems that, so far, they're splitting our support up into 2 quite separate blocks, P & Q and M & N, separated by an empty block, O, in the middle. Why? 

The last time I asked their stadium manager that question he said it was down to stewarding which baffled me (and him too I suspect) as he walked away when I asked him what the logic behind it was.

I'm pretty sure it would take more stewards to monitor 2 separate areas rather than just one.

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1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

Similarly - as an online fan - whenever I watch games at Livi, I don't understand why they leave their main (?) stand almost completely empty. I looks really crap for the TV cameras, why not at least pretend to the world that they've got a decent crowd in by moving a section over there?

We do the same with away fans in the Mclean stand at Fir park, by putting them in the top tier only if they are not going to fill it.

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17 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

We do the same with away fans in the Mclean stand at Fir park, by putting them in the top tier only if they are not going to fill it.

Off topic a bit but if we continue to get great crowds is there scope for opening part of away stand for home fans?  Hearts, hibs and Falkirk all do this.  

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58 minutes ago, firparkfred said:

Does anyone know which section the young Well fans will be using, with their drum. Just asking so that I can avoid it if possible. Cheers.

Pardon 🦻

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12 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Off topic a bit but if we continue to get great crowds is there scope for opening part of away stand for home fans?  Hearts, hibs and Falkirk all do this.  

Is it not still in need of some serious repair and remediation? 

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33 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Off topic a bit but if we continue to get great crowds is there scope for opening part of away stand for home fans?  Hearts, hibs and Falkirk all do this.  

Naw , its better to have us all kind of tightly packed in together it feels like ground is full of well fans and a better atmosphere .

But the away fans on the top deck is a pathetic effort for the last few seasons, anyone any idea why this is the case.

Can't need repaired as the fans of the arse cheeks use it.

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16 minutes ago, stv said:

Naw , its better to have us all kind of tightly packed in together it feels like ground is full of well fans and a better atmosphere .

But the away fans on the top deck is a pathetic effort for the last few seasons, anyone any idea why this is the case.

Can't need repaired as the fans of the arse cheeks use it.

Our CEO said one of the reasons we don't use it is because of the poor state it's in. I imagine that matters less when the OF fans are ripping out seats before they leave.

I don't think it's the only reason. 

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1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

We do the same with away fans in the Mclean stand at Fir park, by putting them in the top tier only if they are not going to fill it.

Thats a separate issue Allan, although I agree with you over that. Even when away fans are allocated the upper tier at Fir Park e.g. Killie last Saturday, they are given the entire tier and can sit where they want, without being restricted to specific parts. Last Saturday it must have been only 20-25% full? 

This Saturday we'll see sections almost full with maybe 2/3/4 empty seats with latecomers i.e. arriving after 2.50 struggling to find a seat yet, Livingston won't open up another adjacent vacant section. 

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