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Dundee v Motherwell 07/03/2026


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Its going to be a real struggle to hold onto 4th place. All our remaining games are against fellow top 6 sides and here's our record against them this season.

Hearts: 2 draws.

Celtic: 1 win  1 loss

Rangers: 2 draws 1 loss

Hibs: 1 win 1 draw

Falkirk: 1 draw 1 loss 

In total, thats 2 wins, 6 draws and 3 defeats. We're unbeaten against Hearts and Hibs but haven't beaten Falkirk, Rangers or Hearts. 

Having said that, I'm delighted that we've managed to finish in the top 6. Anything above that is the icing on the cake. If we manage to finish 4th I'll be over the moon and if its 5th I'll be delighted. To put things in perspective, at the start of the season, I was hoping to finish 7th this term as that would represent progress. We've achieved that and more. 

Our away from has been fair no better this season and I felt that going into yesterday's game many were overconfident.

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2 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

I cant believe some of the stuff I am reading seems to me folk cant see progress just want to piss and moan about anything christ we could with the league and Scottish Cup folk would still wet the bed we didn't win the treble.

We might not have won anything but give me this season over any season we have had recently that's for sure.

 

Spot on , my thoughts as well its been a joy to come to Fir Park this season and watch the football we have been playing, long may it continue.

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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Its going to be a real struggle to hold onto 4th place. All our remaining games are against fellow top 6 sides and here's our record against them this season.

Hearts: 2 draws.

Celtic: 1 win  1 loss

Rangers: 2 draws 1 loss

Hibs: 1 win 1 draw

Falkirk: 1 draw 1 loss 

In total, thats 2 wins, 6 draws and 3 defeats. We're unbeaten against Hearts and Hibs but haven't beaten Falkirk, Rangers or Hearts. 

Having said that, I'm delighted that we've managed to finish in the top 6. Anything above that is the icing on the cake. If we manage to finish 4th I'll be over the moon and if its 5th I'll be delighted. To put things in perspective, at the start of the season, I was hoping to finish 7th this term as that would represent progress. We've achieved that and more. 

Our away from has been fair no better this season and I felt that going into yesterday's game many were overconfident.

We have to beat Hibs and Falkirk at Home and that will secure 4th from that point if we pick up another 4 points from the other 7 games we'll be 4th on 63 points I doubt Hibs or Falkirk will get to that tally.

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Yesterday’s result was just a huge disappointment even although I’ve been expecting a defeat to come along at some point. When compared to our new normal performances it was not what we’re used to but I give Dundee some credit for that. Fair do’s to the team and JBA for trying different tactics in the second half, much different than how we normally played. Caused a lot of goalmouth scrambles and on another day we might have got a few goals. I thought when we did score we would at least take a point but we were not able to ( or decided not to) switch back to our more controlled game and be patient as there was still 12+ mins to go. We Continued to persevere with the alternate tactics that got us the equalizer. 
 Despite what we consider to be a sub par performance we still dominated the game so, while very disappointing result, I see no reason to change what we have been doing all season and this is just an expected blip in the road. 

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7 minutes ago, wunderwell said:

We've gone from winning title chat to struggling to finish 4th. 
I mean we're still just 5 pts behind Champions League qualification. 
Long way to go for chat, in both directions.

I don't know. I didn't think we were ever in with much of chance of winning the title and had completely dismissed that possibility and ignored all chat about it. As for the top three, the odds are very, very heavily stacked against us and again I'm focused on finishing 4th. As Wellfan rightly says though thats ours to lose, and if we finish up up in 5th place then thats what we'll have deserved, no less and no more. An achievement in its own right.    

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On 3/7/2026 at 5:21 PM, Kmcalpin said:

I agree with most of that Jim but in the cold light of day this team is excellent but simply not good enough to win silverware. Or, should I say, lacks the necessary qualities.  Margins are thin, but but good football alone wins nothing.

Lets just enjoy the football and irrespective of whether we end up 4th or 5th it will have been a great season and gives us hope that we can improve for next season.  

I don't get along to many games now Dave but I'm still Motherwell through and through.

Take care .

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Dundee deserved to win. They stopped us playing, took their chances, had a goal disallowed then hit the bar. Our chances when they came were all off target and over elaborate. Can be great and lucky in every game it was comming. Still playing for third tho. Celtic are shite. 

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14 minutes ago, stv said:

Dundee deserved to win. They stopped us playing, took their chances, had a goal disallowed then hit the bar. Our chances when they came were all off target and over elaborate. Can be great and lucky in every game it was comming. Still playing for third tho. Celtic are shite. 

Wee bit strange reading of things. Plenty of shots off target, but certainly not all, given their keeper made 8 saves. And their goal was disallowed because it was well offside. 

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On 3/7/2026 at 10:45 PM, bobbybingo said:

Crowds haven't gone up this season because we won the cup in 1991. The hope is, if we carry on down this path, success will follow. If someone said we'd have a better chance of winning a cup were Robinson to return, with his footballing philosophy in tow, I'd say, no thanks. I realise some would roll out the welcome mat.

You are being ultra optimistic. Clubs like us are rarely allowed to maintain success because the minute we are successful our players and managers are taken from us so just like every other season we will be faced with a rebuild. So any notion that we will build upon success year after year if quite frankly unlikely for a club of our size. The ambitions are laudable but the chances of it building into a trophy wining team are remote.

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32 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

So any notion that we will build upon success year after year if quite frankly unlikely for a club of our size. The ambitions are laudable but the chances of it building into a trophy wining team are remote.

Tommy Mclean done it, built a team that won us the cup in 91 then continued to develop it and came very close to winning the league a few years later. So why cant JBA fo the same the new board seem to have bought in to his philosophy and i have no doubt they will back him financially. The club is heading in a new direction both on and off the field, so anything is possible.

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7 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Tommy Mclean done it, built a team that won us the cup in 91 then continued to develop it and came very close to winning the league a few years later. So why cant JBA fo the same the new board seem to have bought in to his philosophy and i have no doubt they will back him financially. The club is heading in a new direction both on and off the field, so anything is possible.

JBA and our stock is high, building on it would put it stratospheric, fingers crossed we show some ambition

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20 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Tommy Mclean done it, built a team that won us the cup in 91 then continued to develop it and came very close to winning the league a few years later. So why cant JBA fo the same the new board seem to have bought in to his philosophy and i have no doubt they will back him financially. The club is heading in a new direction both on and off the field, so anything is possible.

Because as much as Tommy McLeans achievement was outstanding fort much of his 10 year spell were were poor relegation / bottom half fodder. It was only in the later part of his rein that the team turned into anything. special. Therefore for much of his 10 years no one was desperate to get him as their manager nor sign most of our players. The minute he did achieve he moved on and the team was broken up. Tommy McLean completely endorses my point. 

 

Tommy McLeans Team positions from 82/83

 

82/83 8th

83/84 10th Relegated

84/85 Relegated in 1st Division 

85/86 9th

86/87 8th

87/88 8th

88/89 9th

89/90 6th

90/91 6th

91/92  10th

92/93 9th

93/94 3rd

Tommy McLean left for Hearts June 1994

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22 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

JBA and our stock is high, building on it would put it stratospheric, fingers crossed we show some ambition

Exactly his stock and that of the players ae sky high, that is why they will be taken from us. Any notion that  we can hold on to players playing as they are and the manager are fanciful. At the very most JBA will be with us one more season. The only way he wouldn't leave in year two would be if we were pish at which point interest in his would drop.

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