wellfan Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 9 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Most of us think that the club will continue on the same path of exciting total football now. However, it would do no harm at all for the directors to release a very public statement, once JBA departs, to the effect that the journey continues and confirm this. That would certainly help to keep increased crowds onside. It doesn't need to stary into a detailed account of candidates, timelines etc. If JBA goes this week, with the club still trying to sell season tickets, it would absolutely be in their interests to make a statement, as you suggest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Is it bad that overnight Ive gone from hoping Jens would stay, to just wanting it announced so we can move on? Im going to go and look up the 5 stages of grief! Edit: looks like Ive gone straight from denial to acceptance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, fizoxy said: Can only follow him if we agree to sell them. Players know how the game works, and any professional worth their salt makes their own way in their profession and doesn't follow a manager. I'm also very sure most of our players knew exactly what was going to happen with JBA, and probably joined us hoping they could do the same. Absolutely. In-form players who are on the radar of bigger clubs know exactly how the game works. If they're entering the final year of their contract and won't sign an extension, we have 2 opportunities remaining to make money from them. Now would normally be preferable to January, but we've Europe to consider this year. We'll see what transpires if and when offers come in. I'm certainly not greetin about our situation or fighting reality. Life goes on, irrespective. We've just had an unforgettable season that's re-energised the entire club. Now we continue down the bumpy road, even if it's with a new driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Most of us think that the club will continue on the same path of exciting total football now. However, it would do no harm at all for the directors to release a very public statement, once JBA departs, to the effect that the journey continues and confirm this. That would certainly help to keep increased crowds onside. It doesn't need to morph into a detailed account of candidates, timelines etc. My mate was at AGM few months back and they said that was the model they were continuing with so fingers crossed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 17 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: My mate was at AGM few months back and they said that was the model they were continuing with so fingers crossed Agree Grizzly - im pretty sure Kyrk also referenced it last month in his video update. He said something along the lines of irrespective of who's in charge this is the type of football we'll be playing. I thought at the time it sounded like an acceptance that Jens would move on but chose to ignore and kept hope he'd stick around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 I dont want to sound spoiled but I will struggle to go back to bland soulless football again!I think back to Kettleball and the stuff we have witnessed last season for me just proves anything is possible no matter size of club or how much money you have we have seen it with our own eyes. I said before have nothing but faith in the Kyrk and the board to get it right again progress has been seen and progress has been made. Up the Well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Is it bad that overnight Ive gone from hoping Jens would stay, to just wanting it announced so we can move on? Im going to go and look up the 5 stages of grief! Edit: looks like Ive gone straight from denial to acceptance! Aye, I’d already accepted it weeks ago. I just want it resolved early so we can move on quickly. With Daws now in his new role to provide continuity, and Kyrk and the board committed to the new model, I don’t see any reason to be concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 The facts are we simply aren't a big enough club to hold on to talent. I think it will be a very different team next season. Even if we had managed to hold on to this team and coaching staff there is still the possibility we wouldn't have been as good or possibly even struggled. That's why almost all players and staff go, they have to take their chance to move up as there is no guarantee it will come again. You're talking in most cases from going from having a decent living to millionaire status. It's not something you gamble on. I think there is going to be a lot of unrealistic expectation going into next season. Fans need to realise there won't be any like-for-like replacements. Every player and coach is an individual and the team is a combination of individuals. There will not be a seamless continuation. There will be a whole set of new challenges as there always is with every new season. As a support I hope we recognise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 It is what it is. We are 140 years old, we’ll survive the departure of Jens. I also do not see us reverting to kettleball? I think the powers at be have seen the financial impact of what has happened playing in this way and they will go all out to try and find a like for like. im disappointed but not nearly as disappointed as I was when I was 10 and Davie Hay left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 41 minutes ago, wellfan said: Aye, I’d already accepted it weeks ago. I just want it resolved early so we can move on quickly. With Daws now in his new role to provide continuity, and Kyrk and the board committed to the new model, I don’t see any reason to be concerned. Shockerooney another X post suggesting no deal has been done, its not official until JBA is pictured in France with a Toulouse scarf in one hand and z baguette in the other https://x.com/i/status/2057172498651738157 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 We've been so pleasing on the eye this season that I'd be devastated if we returned to anything resembling 'Kettle/Alexanderball'. I honestly think it would make me think twice about renewing at the end of next season. And I don't say that lightly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 16 minutes ago, wellup83 said: We've been so pleasing on the eye this season that I'd be devastated if we returned to anything resembling 'Kettle/Alexanderball'. I honestly think it would make me think twice about renewing at the end of next season. And I don't say that lightly. As been mentioned look at our crowds this season as fans want to be entertained and I have no doubt a lot of neutrals have come to watch us play. The Chairman, chief exec , board all switched on and will know the bar now set and any return to the hoofball we witnessed under not just SK not Alexander's team were brutal to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Reports now saying JBA is on 3 man shortlist for Toulouse job. So reports yesterday not as accurate as being suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 21 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Reports now saying JBA is on 3 man shortlist for Toulouse job. So reports yesterday not as accurate as being suggested. We should be on the phone to Guardiola, weve played like Man City this season so he would hit the ground running, and feel right at home,, plus his career would be complete with a spell managing in Scotland, nothing ventured norhing gained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 17 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Reports now saying JBA is on 3 man shortlist for Toulouse job. So reports yesterday not as accurate as being suggested. Although I think JBA will move to Toulouse, my big fear is that all the publicity and their own fan reaction will prompt that lot from Glasgow to jump in if the French move does not happen. Life changing money on offer so no one can hold it against Jens for moving on. Losing him, although no surprise, would be painful but the structure and belief exists for us to continue our progress given a suitable replacement. And his current assistant must be a front runner, not least of all because he is known and trusted by fans and players and played a large role in introducing the playing style we have all loved this season. But wouldn't it be so refreshing if JBA said "Thanks but no thanks. I have a job to finish here and will see it through". I live in hope. As for contracted players moving on if he goes? Only on our terms! All are young enough that if they continue to perform they can still secure that big move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 59 minutes ago, dennyc said: Although I think JBA will move to Toulouse, my big fear is that all the publicity and their own fan reaction will prompt that lot from Glasgow to jump in if the French move does not happen. You can never be certain, but JBA to Celtic doesn't seem like a good match for either party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: The facts are we simply aren't a big enough club to hold on to talent. I think it will be a very different team next season. Even if we had managed to hold on to this team and coaching staff there is still the possibility we wouldn't have been as good or possibly even struggled. That's why almost all players and staff go, they have to take their chance to move up as there is no guarantee it will come again. You're talking in most cases from going from having a decent living to millionaire status. It's not something you gamble on. I think there is going to be a lot of unrealistic expectation going into next season. Fans need to realise there won't be any like-for-like replacements. Every player and coach is an individual and the team is a combination of individuals. There will not be a seamless continuation. There will be a whole set of new challenges as there always is with every new season. As a support I hope we recognise that. Boooh! You and your sensible realism! If the King is indeed dead, all I want to hear is Long Live The King! 😍😍😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsince1976 Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 I`m resigned to him going somewhere, but it has to be sooner rather than later. We cannot allow this to drag on and detract a search for a new similar style manager and from our preseason and transfer market dealings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: The facts are we simply aren't a big enough club to hold on to talent. I think it will be a very different team next season. Even if we had managed to hold on to this team and coaching staff there is still the possibility we wouldn't have been as good or possibly even struggled. That's why almost all players and staff go, they have to take their chance to move up as there is no guarantee it will come again. You're talking in most cases from going from having a decent living to millionaire status. It's not something you gamble on. I think there is going to be a lot of unrealistic expectation going into next season. Fans need to realise there won't be any like-for-like replacements. Every player and coach is an individual and the team is a combination of individuals. There will not be a seamless continuation. There will be a whole set of new challenges as there always is with every new season. As a support I hope we recognise that. Alot of what you say is true. However there are no clubs in Scotland that are final destination clubs.. All our first team squad are contracted until 2028 so we will only lose whovwe want to let go. We have millions in the bank and will get more this close season. We go straight to the last 16 of the LC so there's no panic at Fir Park. There's alot to be optimistic about. It's almost certain we will recruit a manager more in tune with the continental style of play we adopt. All our coaching staff are drilled in it now. Bums on seats have proved it's a winner. A decent LC draw and a semi final place is not unrealistic. Our next manager must maintain the no fear of anyone attitude, especially against the OF because we've proved there is fuck all to be afraid of. It's a mindset that must permiate the entire club and become the norm. Sure it's a bummer to lose Jens but the club is in great shape and given a fair wind we can continue the change in culture. We just need the fans to stay with the club through the transition to the new manager. Heads up, fuck all to be gained by looking at our feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, wellup83 said: We've been so pleasing on the eye this season that I'd be devastated if we returned to anything resembling 'Kettle/Alexanderball'. I honestly think it would make me think twice about renewing at the end of next season. And I don't say that lightly. The Chairman and CEO will take one look at gate receipts and that will ensure the style we now use becomes the norm. Financial suicide for it not to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, weeyin said: You can never be certain, but JBA to Celtic doesn't seem like a good match for either party. Oh, I agree that JBA can find a better fit, less pressure and a more open, competent ruling Association. He must be sickened by what he has discovered about the way football in this Country is run. But toxic though a large element are, Celtic fans recognise outstanding football when they see it. And like a few other deluded Clubs see the provision of free flowing, entertaining, attacking football as a right. Add in that the Celtic Board are all too aware of the power they have ceded to the GB and they will see offering Askou the job as a way of easing hostility and holding on to their positions for a wee while longer. So a political approach rather than the Board's first choice. Appoint another Nancy like disaster ahead of the fans' preference and the insanity will get even further out of control. I would love the meltdown if he did turn down an approach from them in preference to staying with us (1st choice obviously) or moving to a mid table French side. Would speak volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 27 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: All our first team squad are contracted until 2028 so we will only lose whovwe want to let go. 2027 for most of them. If we plan to sell them, it's now or January, unless they do a Fadinger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: 2027 for most of them. If we plan to sell them, it's now or January, unless they do a Fadinger. The majority of our players are contracted until 2028 (a good number of them have club options for that year). Fadinger was one of the last to have an expiry in 2027, and he just signed an extension. Examples https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/06/26/elliot-watt-becomes-our-latest-signing/ https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/07/09/new-zealand-international-elijah-just-lands-in-ml1/ https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/07/11/landing-ibrahim-said-on-a-two-year-deal/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: 2027 for most of them. If we plan to sell them, it's now or January, unless they do a Fadinger. Yeah but most of them nearly all have 1 year contract extension held by the club so pretty sorted on that front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 10 minutes ago, fizoxy said: The majority of our players are contracted until 2028 (a good number of them have club options for that year). Fadinger was one of thr kast to have an expiry in 2027, and he just signed an extension. Examples https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/06/26/elliot-watt-becomes-our-latest-signing/ https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2025/07/09/new-zealand-international-elijah-just-lands-in-ml1/ Very happy to be corrected on that. And even more impressed by the folk running our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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