mio Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Have we ever had a really good footballer who was a hammer thrower? We’d kill for someone like that now. he only one who springs to mind was luc nijholt. Can’t think of anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Yes, although we've scored a fair few goals this season, all too often we've been powderpuff in front of goals and yet again its cost us. We also have defensive frailties that Wellfan pointed out above. If officials are going to be pernickety they could have looked more closely at Hearts' opener. It seems to me that Findlay (No 19) was holding/pulling our defender when he headed the ball back across goal. As for the penalty, I'd say it was 55/45 not a penalty. A very close call which, once again, went against us. You could argue that the lad's heading of the ball of the ball was involuntary, but I'd say that according to the laws of the game it shouldn't have ben awarded. Can't be 55/45 if laws say the hearts boy is committing the offence but they've given it and we need to suck it up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 29 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I understand your sentiment, but that would be a real shame. I think Im of the opposite view. A kind of "f#ck you" you wont make me go away that easily. The SPFL do really need to have a major review of refereeing and VAR at the end of the season though. Fans of all clubs feel the same way about the situation. At a time when attendances seem to be on the up, it would be crazy to ignore the paying punter. The authorities don't care about you. Another thing is we are all paying money to fund these incompetents and be paid lip service from Collum... wouldn't happen in any other entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 44 minutes ago, mio said: Have we ever had a really good footballer who was a hammer thrower? We’d kill for someone like that now. he only one who springs to mind was luc nijholt. Can’t think of anyone else. In very recent times, Gorrin. Plenty before that. Tam Forsyth, Willie Watson, Peter Millar, Gordon Soutar, Steve McLelland, Graeme Forbes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 24 minutes ago, wellon said: The authorities don't care about you. Another thing is we are all paying money to fund these incompetents and be paid lip service from Collum... wouldn't happen in any other entertainment Im under no illusion of my importance, or lack of, to the SPFL. But I would hope my club views it differently and makes representation to the authorities in conjuction with all the other clubs to try and sort this. As you say, football is an entertainment industry. In a season where we have enjoyed the best football many of us can remember, and attendances are up, we should be taking this one up on behalf of all supporters to improve the experience. It would be an act of utter self harm if fans are driven away from the game due to poor officiating.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 31 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Im under no illusion of my importance, or lack of, to the SPFL. But I would hope my club views it differently and makes representation to the authorities in conjuction with all the other clubs to try and sort this. As you say, football is an entertainment industry. In a season where we have enjoyed the best football many of us can remember, and attendances are up, we should be taking this one up on behalf of all supporters to improve the experience. It would be an act of utter self harm if fans are driven away from the game due to poor officiating.... Good post Joe. We should take this up with the Society. Also, during games we should make our feelings known about poor and/or inconsistent decsions in the time honoured fashion (note: no abuse). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Did not bother watching yesterday and only checked score later on. Hearts much like Falkirk have carried alot of luck this season. Something that we seldom dont get. For Hearts to win the league giving their general poor standard and style of play is embarrassing. It sums up Scottish Football. Brutal is the word i would use. Imagine them in the champions league against PSG. Would be some laugh right enough. We are never going to win the league. Finances will dictate that. But at least our team is trying to entertain. Sometimes we will come away frustrated, but at least we are trying to improve and move into the modern world of football. Its a shame our club plays in backwards looking country where authorities make decisions to benefit two clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Im under no illusion of my importance, or lack of, to the SPFL. But I would hope my club views it differently and makes representation to the authorities in conjuction with all the other clubs to try and sort this. As you say, football is an entertainment industry. In a season where we have enjoyed the best football many of us can remember, and attendances are up, we should be taking this one up on behalf of all supporters to improve the experience. It would be an act of utter self harm if fans are driven away from the game due to poor officiating.... Wishful thinking, what can mfc do realistically...I think we all see the problems but sorting it is another thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, wellon said: Wishful thinking, what can mfc do realistically...I think we all see the problems but sorting it is another thing. The Well Society ran a poll on VAR earlier in the season. Not sure if any other clubs have done similar, but there have certainly been similar from other fan organisations. Just needs someone to pull it all together and take it forward. If the SPFL is indeed there to facilitate the clubs, then they would have to listen. No point complaining about it if we dont try to effect change. Im sure the Well Society are well aware of and share the view of most fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I picked up a very pertinent point from the Society socials about the penalty decision yesterday and its about timing. At the start of the sequence, the Hearts player heads the ball whilst lying on the ground. Thats a foul. Its only after that that Welsh kicks him. The "victim" was so badly injured that he had to roll about several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just watched the penalty again Do not think Welsh could have done anything to avoid this at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: I picked up a very pertinent point from the Society socials about the penalty decision yesterday and its about timing. At the start of the sequence, the Hearts player heads the ball whilst lying on the ground. Thats a foul. Its only after that that Welsh kicks him. The "victim" was so badly injured that he had to roll about several times. Exactly this. The offence took place before Welsh made contact, and the fact Kabore got a boot to his noggin simply highlights it was dangerous play on his part, as defined by the laws of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 hours ago, star sail said: The subjective nature of decision making is killing the game in Scotland. When you take try and take out the subjectivity, you end up with the current hand ball rules. There are multiple issues that need to be dealt with, from refs not understanding the game to players being coached to cheat. One of the biggest challenges is the small pool of available talent and how to address that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 43 minutes ago Report Share Posted 43 minutes ago If that’s a penalty, we might as well start coaching our strikers to get down to ground level and start diving head-first into the path of defenders’ boots at every opportunity in the box. Oh wait, that’d be a foul for the defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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