Motherwell v Celtic 13/05/2026

[bobbybingo]

Leaving the corruption angle aside, maybe someone will eventually get round to asking Willy Collum why John Beaton continues to be given so many high profile games, despite repeatedly demonstrating he can't actually referee a football match without VAR being there to 'correct' his mistakes. In our games alone:

Pittodrie: missed 2 red cards.

Parkhead: missed a penalty and red card.

Tonight: missed a penalty.

That's assuming VAR got all those decisions correct, of course. If they didn't, that means Beaton is incapable of standing by his own calls and can't tell right from wrong. Either way, he's worse than useless.

 

 

 

[pretzel]

It's refreshing to see Beaton and Dallas getting called out far and wide, we don't usually get that type of exposure.

It's also laughable that Celtic fans are actually creating AI and photoshop images of the incident, so much so that SNS Group have had to put out a statement. 

What a coward Beaton is btw, what annoys me more is that it was our throw in at the edge of their box that he awarded to them which allowed them to get up the pitch. In Collum's latest apology video he keeps talking about rushed decisions (ironically the one of ours against Falkirk) and then this happens unsurprisingly. Then he sees a pitch invasion and can't get off the pitch quick enough. 

[grizzlyg]

42 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Well done you...on an evening where there is so much to talk about, you think this is even worth a dig at the young lads down there? Geez peace

If you dont think we played well then, as someone who hasn't seen as much this season as Id have liked to, I can only assume you've been spoilt rotten this year. 

I said to someone sitting close by during the match that after 40 years of watching our team, I dont think I'll ever get used to seeing us play this way. I thought we were terrific.

On the penalty, 2 things...did Beaton give himself enough time to really scrutinise the evidence? Would he have been so quick to give us it at the other end?

My answer to both questions is a solid 'naw'

You obviously haven't read all my posts as I have said plenty about the game.   I also gave the lads loads of praise for their tifo display.

I think I am entitled to give an opinion about the flares, ask anyone that is sitting in the hunter last night.  It's also going to be another fine from the league.

But hey pal its all about opinions so fair do's

COYW

[Spiderpig]

2 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Leaving the corruption angle aside, maybe someone will eventually get round to asking Willy Collum why John Beaton continues to be given so many high profile games, despite repeatedly demonstrating he can't actually referee a football match without VAR being there to 'correct' his mistakes. In our games alone:

Pittodrie: missed 2 red cards.

Parkhead: missed a penalty and red card.

Tonight: missed a penalty.

That's assuming VAR got all those decisions correct, of course. If they didn't, that means Beaton is incapable of standing by his own calls and can't tell right from wrong. Either way, he's worse than useless.

 

 

 

As bad as beaton is, its not a one man issue, the whole cosy corrupt SFA clique are culpable. The incompetent referreeing, poundshop VAR technology, blatant lies to try to justify the dodgy calls and a complete lack of responsibility or accountabillity.

Then you add in a pandering and compliant media concerning everything regarding  the uglies at the expense of the other 40 pro clubs and you have the perfect shitstorm that is Scottish football all based on the the tell tale question of "what school did you go to" its a national embarrasment.

Nothing will change unless the other clubs grow a set and start to call out whats going on and start to hold the SFA to account, im not holding my breath on that happening though.

[grizzlyg]

Apparently Beaton decided to even the score as he felt guilty about having to give Maeda a yellow card.....an event more rarer than me telling a funny joke ( well..maybe not...🤪🤪)

[Richie]

...An overdue yellow at that

[WellHighlander]

Penalty incident aside, some of our supporters really need a reality check.

JBA has given us a team to be exceptionally proud of, regardless of how it ends.

We outplayed a Celtic team for large parts of last night's contest - and this is a team chasing a title.

Celtic's first goal was simply a  moment of good fortune and an exceptional finish. The second was wonder strike.

Yes, the season has not ended how we hoped and yes we may not get European football, but please look at the bigger picture.

A squad that now has several very valuable assets - not all will be sold in the summer, but those who do go should fetch a more than decent fee, securing not only our short-term, but long-term future.

A brand of football that many in the league envy - and so far distanced from what's been served up over the past few seasons.

Crowds on the rise and a proper connection between club and its supporters.

All of the above forms a very solid foundation and while JBA will be a wanted man, he will depart with us in good health both on and off the field, so much so we could entice some real managerial talent.

Look at others in and around us. Hibernian may yet get fourth, but financially they are in a mess. Falkirk will be under pressure to repeat their efforts this season, and will likely have to do so losing one or two vital players from their squad. Aberdeen are in transition - a bloated squad full of under-achievers on big wages. Dundee, Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock will all undergo a turnover of players this summer, as will St Mirren should they stay up. St Johnstone have momentum and should compete, but for them consolidation will be the main aim.

We have a wonderful opportunity to build on the foundations of this season. There is money in the bank, with more coming.

European football would be an attractive proposition for any targets, but I don't think it's a deal breaker.

JBA will have learned a lot from these last couple of months. Injuries haven't helped, and neither has a few players having a dip in form at an important stage of the season, but when you play all season at the intensity JBA wants, it's only natural some players will begin to feel the effects.

A top six finish, a cup semi-final, challenging for European football - all of us would have bitten a hand off if this scenario had been offered to us before the season started.

I think back to all the supporters at the start of the season who were critical of this style of play and how it would never work. Time and patience is in short supply in modern football, but for those who can't see what's being built then I feel sorry for you.

 

[Orinoco]

Ralstons foul throw being ignored then in the lead up?

Is Trusty going to be Slattery'd for his antics at the incident?

Should managers be having private conversations with Collum? Hows about full disclosure.

Our game is a laughing stock this morning. Heads should roll, but we know nothing will change in anycase.

Scunnered does not even cover it. 

 

 

[wellfan]

Being terrified of Celtic is not justification for cheating. If it appears an official is genuinely compromised, and there is ample evidence to suggest that is the case for many of them, then they should not be anywhere near Celtic games in the first place. The options cannot be either cheat or have your windows panned in. If that is the situation, they should be removed from officiating in the Premiership entirely until they can prove they are fit and competent to do the job. That would require competent leadership, accountability, and real change, which we clearly do not have at the SFA with chief clown Collum in charge.

[Richie]

The crux of it is that VAR has called the ref and a subsequent pen has been givien on the basis of unclear footage/still image evidence, with the additional criteria required for it to be punishable being ignored (Deliberately making body bigger).

[wellfan]

3 minutes ago, Richie said:

The crux of it is that VAR has called the ref and a subsequent pen has been givien on the basis of unclear footage/still image evidence, with the additional criteria required for it to be punishable being ignored (Deliberately making body bigger).

Yes, cheating. 

[well_said]

5 hours ago, Richie said:

Motherwell need to be raising the behaviour of the Celtic fans and also the conduct of their staff and players.

For the second time in a few weeks, they were actively celebrating with out of control, pitch-invading fans and stoking it up further.

The police should have had them off the park and up the tunnel.

Its getting to the point where we should seriously consider cordoning off areas of the stand until their fans can restrain themselves.

There are now multiple instances, over multiple years, of disorder and damage in that end from Celtic fans.

The club should make it clear the reason for it.

The police would have been celebrating with them.

[A Well Fan]

38 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

 

 

Should managers be having private conversations with Collum? Hows about full disclosure.

 

 

 

This decision isn't something that can wait for Collum's monthly excuses. They should be releasing the audio for it now

[SteelmaninOZ]

Watched the replay of the Hearts game I could hardly believe that the Hearts fans were actually singing Stand Up and sing for Motherwell.  When we scored our goals. 😇

[Spiderpig]

1 minute ago, A Well Fan said:

This decision isn't something that can wait for Collum's monthly excuses. They should be releasing the audio for it now

Its a certainty that if the incident is discussed on the Var review and i have my doubts,,there will be some mysterious technical issue to explain why its not available, hearing Dallas shouting "penalty, penalty, stonewaller, no need to check John" would not be a good look.

[joewarkfanclub]

4 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

I don't always agree with you but think you get an unfair time of it on here sometimes. Until last night I would have disagreed with you over this, but I have now changed my view. Yes, Sevco fans have caused huge problems in the past thats a fact. However in recent times, Celtic fans are definitely the worst at Fir Park; I can't speak for elsewhere. The Government, media and Police will largely ignore their most recent behaviour, it but we can and should cut their allocation in future. Take a couple of thousand off their share i.e. most of the bottom tier.  

I dont think anyone would argue that Celtic fans arent the worst at Fir Park. They absolutely are.

The problem by focusing on that is you ignore what goes on away from Fir Park.

Anyone looking at the Glasgow Derby at Ibrox and suggesting that the Union Bears were justified in their behaviour because Celtic fans encroached onto the field to celebrate are absolutely deluded. Our fans seemd to contain themselves last night.

And that wasnt an isolated incident. I submit the masked marauders in Santa hats running amok in Glasgow City centre earlier in the season.

For the avoidance of doubt, what happened at the end last night was a disgrace (particularly as it effected those in the disabled section most acutely) and the club should absolutely be complaining in the strongest possible terms to the SPFL and SFA and sanctions would undoubtedly be appropriate.

However, when you apply broad brush steokes to a situation to suit your own agenda, you tend to lose the room.

[joewarkfanclub]

3 hours ago, MJC said:

I’ve been saying that for years. Trying to clam that it’s an “Old Firm problem” or “they’re just as bad as each other” lets the real culprits off the hook. And obviously you get the usual dribbling nonsense about saying as much equates to you being “pro-Rangers” or that “you’re giving strong vibes of Rangers being the big team you support” and such like.

It is of course much easier and dare I say it much safer to criticise Rangers as they don’t have the clout Celtic have in media and politics. It’s also quite fashionable to be a vocal Rangers hater and what I would also say is that had Rangers fans caused even half as much mayhem and damage at Fir Park over the years then A LOT more would have been made of it. It would probably be being discussed in Holyrood at some point.

On another issue, something I didn’t notice last night but did today when I saw it on X, once Celtic score the penalty and the pitch invasion happens, the game doesn’t restart with us taking centre. Beaton just blows for full time with hundreds of their hoardes still on the park, so basically Celtic and their fans can decide when the game stops as well? I’ve never seen that before and I’ve seen plenty of last minute penalties being scored but the other team always takes centre before the final whistle is blown, but not last night?

Scotland v Denmark.

Kenny McLean.

[joewarkfanclub]

3 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

So the delay caused by VAR wasn't added on?

There was only 10 seconds of added time left when the incident occurred. So adding time for the VAR wouldnt have occurred. Barely enough time to allow the penalty to be taken.

[joewarkfanclub]

1 hour ago, WellHighlander said:

Penalty incident aside, some of our supporters really need a reality check.

JBA has given us a team to be exceptionally proud of, regardless of how it ends.

We outplayed a Celtic team for large parts of last night's contest - and this is a team chasing a title.

Celtic's first goal was simply a  moment of good fortune and an exceptional finish. The second was wonder strike.

Yes, the season has not ended how we hoped and yes we may not get European football, but please look at the bigger picture.

A squad that now has several very valuable assets - not all will be sold in the summer, but those who do go should fetch a more than decent fee, securing not only our short-term, but long-term future.

A brand of football that many in the league envy - and so far distanced from what's been served up over the past few seasons.

Crowds on the rise and a proper connection between club and its supporters.

All of the above forms a very solid foundation and while JBA will be a wanted man, he will depart with us in good health both on and off the field, so much so we could entice some real managerial talent.

Look at others in and around us. Hibernian may yet get fourth, but financially they are in a mess. Falkirk will be under pressure to repeat their efforts this season, and will likely have to do so losing one or two vital players from their squad. Aberdeen are in transition - a bloated squad full of under-achievers on big wages. Dundee, Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock will all undergo a turnover of players this summer, as will St Mirren should they stay up. St Johnstone have momentum and should compete, but for them consolidation will be the main aim.

We have a wonderful opportunity to build on the foundations of this season. There is money in the bank, with more coming.

European football would be an attractive proposition for any targets, but I don't think it's a deal breaker.

JBA will have learned a lot from these last couple of months. Injuries haven't helped, and neither has a few players having a dip in form at an important stage of the season, but when you play all season at the intensity JBA wants, it's only natural some players will begin to feel the effects.

A top six finish, a cup semi-final, challenging for European football - all of us would have bitten a hand off if this scenario had been offered to us before the season started.

I think back to all the supporters at the start of the season who were critical of this style of play and how it would never work. Time and patience is in short supply in modern football, but for those who can't see what's being built then I feel sorry for you.

 

Absolutely this! 🧡❤️🧡

[SteelmaninOZ]

1 hour ago, WellHighlander said:

Penalty incident aside, some of our supporters really need a reality check.

JBA has given us a team to be exceptionally proud of, regardless of how it ends.

We outplayed a Celtic team for large parts of last night's contest - and this is a team chasing a title.

Celtic's first goal was simply a  moment of good fortune and an exceptional finish. The second was wonder strike.

Yes, the season has not ended how we hoped and yes we may not get European football, but please look at the bigger picture.

A squad that now has several very valuable assets - not all will be sold in the summer, but those who do go should fetch a more than decent fee, securing not only our short-term, but long-term future.

A brand of football that many in the league envy - and so far distanced from what's been served up over the past few seasons.

Crowds on the rise and a proper connection between club and its supporters.

All of the above forms a very solid foundation and while JBA will be a wanted man, he will depart with us in good health both on and off the field, so much so we could entice some real managerial talent.

Look at others in and around us. Hibernian may yet get fourth, but financially they are in a mess. Falkirk will be under pressure to repeat their efforts this season, and will likely have to do so losing one or two vital players from their squad. Aberdeen are in transition - a bloated squad full of under-achievers on big wages. Dundee, Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock will all undergo a turnover of players this summer, as will St Mirren should they stay up. St Johnstone have momentum and should compete, but for them consolidation will be the main aim.

We have a wonderful opportunity to build on the foundations of this season. There is money in the bank, with more coming.

European football would be an attractive proposition for any targets, but I don't think it's a deal breaker.

JBA will have learned a lot from these last couple of months. Injuries haven't helped, and neither has a few players having a dip in form at an important stage of the season, but when you play all season at the intensity JBA wants, it's only natural some players will begin to feel the effects.

A top six finish, a cup semi-final, challenging for European football - all of us would have bitten a hand off if this scenario had been offered to us before the season started.

I think back to all the supporters at the start of the season who were critical of this style of play and how it would never work. Time and patience is in short supply in modern football, but for those who can't see what's being built then I feel sorry for you.

 

Hear! Hear! 

[Spiderpig]

12 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

There was only 10 seconds of added time left when the incident occurred. So adding time for the VAR wouldnt have occurred. Barely enough time to allow the penalty to be taken.

Additional time is allowed for a penalty kick to be taken at the end of each half of the match or extra time. In this case, the penalty kick is completed (and the half is ended) when the ball:

➡ stops moving

➡ goes out of play

➡ is played by any player other than the defending goalkeeper or

➡ the referee stops play for an offence by the kicker or the kicker’s team

So if you are over the alloted 5 mins of ET, the match goes on till the Var check is resolved and if its a pen, when the ball hits the net etc its game over

[texanwellfan]

3 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Well done you...on an evening where there is so much to talk about, you think this is even worth a dig at the young lads down there? Geez peace

If you dont think we played well then, as someone who hasn't seen as much this season as Id have liked to, I can only assume you've been spoilt rotten this year. 

I said to someone sitting close by during the match that after 40 years of watching our team, I dont think I'll ever get used to seeing us play this way. I thought we were terrific.

On the penalty, 2 things...did Beaton give himself enough time to really scrutinise the evidence? Would he have been so quick to give us it at the other end?

My answer to both questions is a solid 'naw'

We played well. Our goalie had zero saves, so including the PK, Celtic had 3 shots on Target.
I posted the stats earlier in this thread. 

what done us in, obviously, was VAR team inserting themselves into the proceedings when it was not necessary. I keep hearing VAR is for clear and obvious errors. When no players or fans are screaming for a  penalty,  where it’s not 100% clear if its handball or header, juat sit in your seat and STFU and let the game continue. 

[joewarkfanclub]

Hung off from posting last night as I was way too angry about what transpired at the end of the game.

Regardless of our thoughts on the matter, it doesnt really change anything.

Hibs last minute winner means we need to go to Easter Road and get something. Given we have won 1 and drawn 2 against them this season and now have an injustice to fire the belly, we should embrace that situation.

Re last nights game. I really despair about any Motherwell fan who watched that last night and is anything other than proud of our performance.

Many Motherwell teams in the past have utterly capitulated to Celtic. But we went toe to toe with them for 90 minutes and were the better team by every metric, other than the one that actually counts.

It was a great performance and, but for a bit more quality/composure in the final third, we might have won that game.

There is a real feel good factor about Fir Park right now. Three stands up singing and bouncing in a game against one of the ugly sisters is a rare thing indeed.

Finally, to address the issue of our record against the top 6. It is true that we have only won 3 out of 19. But we have also drawn 8. So in 11/19 games the top 6 couldnt beat us either and of the games we did lose only Hearts beat us by more than 1 goal and our performances have been more than decent.

We should embrace these times and use the injustice we all feel about the season as a whole to fuel us going forward.

Everyone to Easter Road......

 

[joewarkfanclub]

7 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Additional time is allowed for a penalty kick to be taken at the end of each half of the match or extra time. In this case, the penalty kick is completed (and the half is ended) when the ball:

➡ stops moving

➡ goes out of play

➡ is played by any player other than the defending goalkeeper or

➡ the referee stops play for an offence by the kicker or the kicker’s team

So if you are over the alloted 5 mins of ET, the match goes on till the Var check is resolved and if its a pen, when the ball hits the net etc its game over

My point entirely 👍👍👍

[Spit_It_Out]

Beaton had already made his mind before he went to the screen lets be honest here he was so so quick to make a decision couldn't wait to get back on the pitch,give the pen and get up the tunnel.

As a club we should be making sure he has nothing to do with our games in Referee or VAR capacity.

And this talk about we were not good last night the last 15 mins until that disgusting decision only one team in it and one team that looked like they were going to win it fairly that team was Motherwell.