Motherwell v Celtic 13/05/2026

[dennyc]

45 minutes ago, mio said:

I think we need to scrap this topic. Thoroughly bored of the whole subject.

This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required.

Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. 

Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included.

As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years.

Rant over. 

For now.

 

[mio]

I see the key match incident panel have agreed the penalty was incorrect…. Great, what a difference that will make now. 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

9 minutes ago, mio said:

I see the key match incident panel have agreed the penalty was incorrect…. Great, what a difference that will make now. 

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/14629/39-kmi-21st-may-matches-12th-13th-16th-17th-may-outcomes.pdf

Hearts will be raging, understandably so.

[Happy Dosser]

28 minutes ago, dennyc said:

This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required.

Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. 

Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included.

As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years.

Rant over. 

For now.

 

I agree. The last thing we need is that this  is all swept under the carpet in the close season and slaps on the list belatedly  issued to Celtic while dragging in others clubs with little justification including Motherwell, Hearts, Championship play-off teams  and other diversions/fig-leaves lest Celtic become isolated and their behaviour placed under the microscope.

Perhaps naïvely, I used to have some respect for Martin O'Neill but his recent post-match pronouncements suggest to me that he is a feeble hypocrite, afraid to upset the GB neds (although it seems much of the Celtic support actually booed their incursions onto the pitch) and coming out with nonsense like,  "What were the supporters supposed to do? Sit in their seats?".  Eh, YES! And that applies to Wednesday night at FP, when the whole Celtic bench "celebrated" with the break-in bhoys and behaved without an ounce of class.

The  wee plaster saint is really getting on my nazzums at the moment.

[texanwellfan]

27 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/14629/39-kmi-21st-may-matches-12th-13th-16th-17th-may-outcomes.pdf

Hearts will be raging, understandably so.

The VAR officials just can’t grasp that whole “clear and obvious error” before sticking their noses in. 

[texanwellfan]

I’d love to hear the Audio. 

[Kmcalpin]

One member of the panel actually agreed with the penalty division. Who'd have thought it? 

Its just a talking shop anyway. 

[Big Stall]

Penalty ruled incorrect. Doesnt help us or hearts but at least we can hold heads high.

Celtic getting investigated for pitch invasions is good to read.

Given we were on a warning about pyro & we had them going off all second half, we need to just take the punishment on the chin

[El Grew]

9 hours ago, dennyc said:

This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required.

Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. 

Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included.

As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years.

Rant over. 

For now.

 

Easy solution - when we play the Bigot Bros at FP, put a premium on their ticket prices, say £50 to help pay for any damages that they cause.

[texanwellfan]

1 hour ago, El Grew said:

Easy solution - when we play the Bigot Bros at FP, put a premium on their ticket prices, say £50 to help pay for any damages that they cause.

Except we are not allowed to do that but maybe that’s your point? Change the rules to allow that. 

[claretband]

The penalty was awarded with 20 seconds or so to play. So if our fans had invaded the park just before that to celebrate the draw… the ref don’t get chance to blow for time Ip and the game gets called… that pen never gets awarded….


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[texanwellfan]

20 Seconds left to play that we never got a chance to play. It went to VAR so we should have had a chance to play those 20 seconds. 
easy way out just to say he blew for full time. 

[texanwellfan]

Well, that’s the final Done. Hibs will be happy. 

[Spiderpig]

1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:

20 Seconds left to play that we never got a chance to play. It went to VAR so we should have had a chance to play those 20 seconds. 
easy way out just to say he blew for full time. 

If the match is approaching full time and there is a penalty awarded or Var check for a penalty the game time is extended until that process is complete ie Var check over or penalty taken and the ball stops moving ie hitting the net or crossbar, crowd etc at that moment if its over the alloted added time if any the game is over.

So as much ad it pains me to say, Beaton actually got that part correct, as the game was over when the ball hit the net so before the pitch invasion.

 

[texanwellfan]

9 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

If the match is approaching full time and there is a penalty awarded or Var check for a penalty the game time is extended until that process is complete ie Var check over or penalty taken and the ball stops moving ie hitting the net or crossbar, crowd etc at that moment if its over the alloted added time if any the game is over.

So as much ad it pains me to say, Beaton actually got that part correct, as the game was over when the ball hit the net so before the pitch invasion.

 

Yes, you’re probably right. In as much that when Beaton blows the whistle for Celtic player to take the kick, that restarts the game after VAR stoppage and they don’t stop the clock once the player scores so the 20 seconds times out. 

[claretband]

Yes but same still applies re my comments above. If we’d invaded and ref had done same as in the Celtic hearts game then no pen


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[Throughthelaces]

23 hours ago, Happy Dosser said:

I agree. The last thing we need is that this  is all swept under the carpet in the close season and slaps on the list belatedly  issued to Celtic while dragging in others clubs with little justification including Motherwell, Hearts, Championship play-off teams  and other diversions/fig-leaves lest Celtic become isolated and their behaviour placed under the microscope.

Perhaps naïvely, I used to have some respect for Martin O'Neill but his recent post-match pronouncements suggest to me that he is a feeble hypocrite, afraid to upset the GB neds (although it seems much of the Celtic support actually booed their incursions onto the pitch) and coming out with nonsense like,  "What were the supporters supposed to do? Sit in their seats?".  Eh, YES! And that applies to Wednesday night at FP, when the whole Celtic bench "celebrated" with the break-in bhoys and behaved without an ounce of class.

The  wee plaster saint is really getting on my nazzums at the moment.

Im here too had a bit of respect for him but his comments and behaviour lately have left me feeling that he himself is just a grown up ned.

[MJC]

O’Neill has always been a nasty piece of work. Don’t let his doddery auld man act fool you, he has always been able to appeal to the worst element of Celtic’s support. He did it years ago when he was there first time around and he is doing it again with his comments about the penalty against us and the behaviour of their support last week.

Deflect, deny and lie through your teeth. That is the Glasgow Celtic way and O’Neill is an absolute master of it all.

[Kmcalpin]

I was always impressed by him. Very knowledgeable, well spoken and polite. Avuncular in fact. However some years ago, he point blank refused to condemn sectarianism at Parkhead, when put on the spot. That did it for me and his latest comments just reinforce my opinion of him. 

[well_said]

14 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

I was always impressed by him. Very knowledgeable, well spoken and polite. Avuncular in fact. However some years ago, he point blank refused to condemn sectarianism at Parkhead, when put on the spot. That did it for me and his latest comments just reinforce my opinion of him. 

Sectarian bigots wont condemn sectarian bigotry.

[grizzlyg]

14 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

I was always impressed by him. Very knowledgeable, well spoken and polite. Avuncular in fact. However some years ago, he point blank refused to condemn sectarianism at Parkhead, when put on the spot. That did it for me and his latest comments just reinforce my opinion of him. 

Agree 💯.   Oneill back to his old self, tries the charm but once confronted goes into full defence mode. 

[twistandshout1983]

16 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

I was always impressed by him. Very knowledgeable, well spoken and polite. Avuncular in fact. However some years ago, he point blank refused to condemn sectarianism at Parkhead, when put on the spot. That did it for me and his latest comments just reinforce my opinion of him. 

Remember it well,  here he is

It is laughable in a way,  there is a problem at Celtic Park but he wants absolutely nothing to do with it

 

[MJC]

4 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said:

Remember it well,  here he is

It is laughable in a way,  there is a problem at Celtic Park but he wants absolutely nothing to do with it

 

I’d say it’s more that he embraces the problem, many that there are, at that club.

Celtic and their fanbase’s ‘victim mindset’ ramped up tenfold when O’Neill went there in the year 2000, along with the attitude you see nowadays of “let us behave how we want, say what we want, sing what we want and if you have a problem with any of that you are an anti-Catholic, anti-Irish right wing racist…but don’t you say or sing anything that we don’t like because that offends us”.

He emboldened them with and created a siege mentality, using Neil Lennon in particular to push the anti-Irish agenda and result of all of that is Celtic have the footballing authorities, the media and politicians scared of doing or saying anything to upset them.

Do not believe for one second that Martin O’Neill is anything other than a very dangerous, manipulative person.

[weeyin]

I'm not sure MON is dangerous, but its obvious that when you take that job, it's part of the deal that you don't bad mouth their support. It's another reason their choice of managers is limited.

The problem starts at the Board level, and that feeds all the other parts of the club.

Graeme Souness is the only manager I can think that has taken any sort of stance, and while he shook things up by signing players from the "wrong school" he still didn't go as far as condemning the bigotry.

Unfortunately for the sane fans, and unfortunately for Scotland, the sectarianism is good business for the media, so they will continue to take advantage of it for the forseeable future.

[grizzlyg]

35 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'm not sure MON is dangerous, but its obvious that when you take that job, it's part of the deal that you don't bad mouth their support. It's another reason their choice of managers is limited.

The problem starts at the Board level, and that feeds all the other parts of the club.

Graeme Souness is the only manager I can think that has taken any sort of stance, and while he shook things up by signing players from the "wrong school" he still didn't go as far as condemning the bigotry.

Unfortunately for the sane fans, and unfortunately for Scotland, the sectarianism is good business for the media, so they will continue to take advantage of it for the forseeable future.

Dougie Donnelly's interview with him yesterday after cup final was cringeworthy