SteelmaninOZ Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM WHIT?! https://youtube.com/shorts/-SNh4sfQaGc?si=aeHClXH6NLAWYIB6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 05:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:54 AM 1 hour ago, SteelmaninOZ said: WHIT?! https://youtube.com/shorts/-SNh4sfQaGc?si=aeHClXH6NLAWYIB6 It's from a rangers YouTube channel, I wouldn't read too much into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted yesterday at 07:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:35 AM 2 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said: WHIT?! https://youtube.com/shorts/-SNh4sfQaGc?si=aeHClXH6NLAWYIB6 You can smell the shite from a long way off with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted yesterday at 08:46 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:46 AM 55 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: You can smell the shite from a long way off with that one. Was it not a two team league that was proposed with total backing from the media. Where the two big teams play each other every week with each game broadcast live on tv. On a more serious note I sense a bit of a change in the type of football being played in Scotland top leauge now with the emphasis on passing etc etc which started off with us and has even spread to St Midden. Don't think it will ever spread up north to Aberdeen tho they will always be cloggers kicking teams off the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted yesterday at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:01 PM 3 hours ago, stv said: Was it not a two team league that was proposed with total backing from the media. Where the two big teams play each other every week with each game broadcast live on tv. On a more serious note I sense a bit of a change in the type of football being played in Scotland top leauge now with the emphasis on passing etc etc which started off with us and has even spread to St Midden. Don't think it will ever spread up north to Aberdeen tho they will always be cloggers kicking teams off the park. I would be delighted and I am sure the vast majority of non arse cheek fans would as well if the two of them left to form a two team league. Unlikely to happen , but a good thought nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted yesterday at 01:08 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:08 PM I hope if we do go for league reconstruction it's to make it a 18 team league. 34 games each team home & away. 2 up 2 down and a play off for the team in 16th if you want to keep that option. Championship at 18 as well and then split into regions below that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM A 10 team league would be horrendous, playing each other 4 times and added pressure of 6 or 7 teams every year fighting relegation. Imagine the pressures that would bring to bed in young players. 16 or 18 team league playing home and away fixtures is what most fans want and I think would help Scottish clubs bring through youngsters and would also help Scottish sides in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM I hate the split but it’s probably a decent compromise between high pressure 10 team league and 18 team league with too many meaningless games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM This is all at least a year old. There was a bit of a clamber a year or 2 ago to change to a 14 or 16 team set up, so the league leaked a 10 team suggestion and quickly binned the idea when everyone kicked off about it in the hope everyone would be happy sticking with the 12 team league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 03:12 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:12 PM The old 10 team SPL was bad for football. Too many teams in the bottom half scrapping for survival at the expense of entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted yesterday at 03:25 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:25 PM 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: I hate the split but it’s probably a decent compromise between high pressure 10 team league and 18 team league with too many meaningless games. I don't understand how the 12 team league we have now is any better than an 18 team league. We play teams 3/4 times a season we realistically all work each other out by game 2/3. If we go to 18 it realistically encourages teams to try and play better football as their is less risk of relegation it should also in theory make bringing young players into the first team easier as their would be less risk of relegation and the 'meaningless games' would provide an opportunity to those players to have an exposure to first team football. It also should in theory make it easier for someone outside of Rangers and Celtic to win the league as they wouldn't be given 4 opportunities to beat them a season to claw back the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM When we were in the First Division, there were 14 teams and you played each one 3 times. There used to be an argument the odd number of games gave some teams home advantage, athough they did try to balance it every season. Now we have a precedent in the Premiership that teams play an uneven number of games against certain teams there's less reason to argue against a similar 14 team format. Of course it will never happen any more than an 18 team league, because the TV companies demand 4 OF derbies per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM All anybody needs to know is that the premiership is set up and constituted to suit and pander to the needs of the ugly sisters, the other 10 teams dont matter. Change only happens if they both want it, or teams like Aberdeen vote with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: All anybody needs to know is that the premiership is set up and constituted to suit and pander to the needs of the ugly sisters, the other 10 teams dont matter. Change only happens if they both want it, or teams like Aberdeen vote with them. That's pretty much it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 16 hours ago, thewelllfan said: I don't understand how the 12 team league we have now is any better than an 18 team league. We play teams 3/4 times a season we realistically all work each other out by game 2/3. If we go to 18 it realistically encourages teams to try and play better football as their is less risk of relegation it should also in theory make bringing young players into the first team easier as their would be less risk of relegation and the 'meaningless games' would provide an opportunity to those players to have an exposure to first team football. It also should in theory make it easier for someone outside of Rangers and Celtic to win the league as they wouldn't be given 4 opportunities to beat them a season to claw back the gap. Nail, head, hit. Nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I believe most fans would welcome a return to an 18 team league. At least then the visit of the bigger teams to Fir Park becomes more of an occasion and less routine. Similarly for our fans visiting away grounds. Less “Oh, them or there again”. Variety in other words and less repetition. . Sadly that’s not how most Boards, including ours, see it. Cash is king. The dream is top six which guarantees 4 home matches a season against Celtic and Rangers and also more than likely against at least 2 of Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen. Financially much more lucrative than replacing that second home fixture against the big four or five with Livi, St J, Raith, Ross C, Arbroath. Thistle and Dunfermline marginally less so. I agree the 12 team set up does make it more of a challenge for anyone other than Celtic and Rangers to win the Title. But that is not the main driver for the set up we have and which is unlikely to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I don’t mind the 12 team set up and I specifically like the intensity of the split but an 18, 12 , 12 set up might work. Straight promotion and relegation or perhaps a play off final between the third bottom and third top of each league. The issue with this is that if the lower leagues played 38 games the 34 game top league would be finished a month earlier. Perhaps the lower leagues could play 3 times only for a 33 game season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, ropy said: I don’t mind the 12 team set up and I specifically like the intensity of the split but an 18, 12 , 12 set up might work. Straight promotion and relegation or perhaps a play off final between the third bottom and third top of each league. The issue with this is that if the lower leagues played 38 games the 34 game top league would be finished a month earlier. Perhaps the lower leagues could play 3 times only for a 33 game season. EPL has 20 teams and championship has 24 teams and it’s not an issue but where does 38 games come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, ropy said: I don’t mind the 12 team set up and I specifically like the intensity of the split but an 18, 12 , 12 set up might work. Straight promotion and relegation or perhaps a play off final between the third bottom and third top of each league. The issue with this is that if the lower leagues played 38 games the 34 game top league would be finished a month earlier. Perhaps the lower leagues could play 3 times only for a 33 game season. The turkeys dont vote for christmas, the clubs inherrent self interests will kick in so any plan that involves less income from games especially against the uglies will never be agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: EPL has 20 teams and championship has 24 teams and it’s not an issue but where does 38 games come from? The top league currently has 12 teams and plays 38 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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