wellsince75 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago We don't pass - we were out passed by Kilmarnock. We don't defend - and I mean as a team. We had no shape in the 2nd half. We didn't win any 2nd balls. In last 5 games We've conceded 14 , scored 3. I don't remember us shipping goals like this since possibly McGhee v 2 era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: It's at fir park ya numpty! 🤣 Correct 🤦♂️ aw, well given the run we are on it will make no difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Verheul Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: I fly oot on holiday on Thursday so glad I will miss it Enjoy, it seems half of our team flew out on holiday sometime at the end of August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said: See this chat about who would come to us….just bin that We’re clueless in every area of the park if u dont think we’ll be in a relegation scrap this year when the worst team in the league are cutting up apart we’re not as bad as ur jokes Some of the forward play was ok but that defence could get us relegated, how odonnel lasted 90 mins is beyond me. There are a few not digging in either. Kilmarnock aren't much better but they dug in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppower Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Kilmarnock's first home win this season. Next stop Tynecastle. Now 5 loses on the trot. Next week will be 6. This could be the season we go down. The manager is a fraud. Not one signing has been a success. Total waste of money. I still haven't a clue what Plan A is never mind Plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Alfred will get all the stick but the players need to have a hard look at themselves also He's watched us getting roasted up the right for weeks. He watched the mess that was Moorman and SOD until 60 mins and 2 goals gone. I agree players need to stand up and be counted - equally when we the fans can spot the obiovus that needs to change and the manager can't it's concerning Grizzly. For the record I wholeheartedly agree about not firing managers after a few short months - but it is getting worse but the week - that's not a transition period Im afraid . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Bart Verheul said: Enjoy, it seems half of our team flew out on holiday sometime at the end of August Cheers bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, wellsince75 said: He's watched us getting roasted up the right for weeks. He watched the mess that was Moorman and SOD until 60 mins and 2 goals gone. I agree players need to stand up and be counted - equally when we the fans can spot the obiovus that needs to change and the manager can't it's concerning Grizzly. For the record I wholeheartedly agree about not firing managers after a few short months - but it is getting worse but the week - that's not a transition period Im afraid . Agree totally about right hand side, been saying for weeks sparrow aint a right back.. if he doesn't change that defence next week then yes I will be concerned as he isn't spotting the problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, ppower said: Kilmarnock's first home win this season. Next stop Tynecastle. Now 5 loses on the trot. Next week will be 6. This could be the season we go down. The manager is a fraud. Not one signing has been a success. Total waste of money. I still haven't a clue what Plan A is never mind Plan B. It's at Fir Park!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said: You do know it’s a results driven business A portion of our team look disinterested a portion are performing significantly worse than last season He’s going either way whether it’s tonight or 3 months, it’s how much damage it done before it happens For me were in a relegation scrap this year I actually took us on the coupon 😂 Good for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, wellsince75 said: He's watched us getting roasted up the right for weeks. He watched the mess that was Moorman and SOD until 60 mins and 2 goals gone. I agree players need to stand up and be counted - equally when we the fans can spot the obiovus that needs to change and the manager can't it's concerning Grizzly. For the record I wholeheartedly agree about not firing managers after a few short months - but it is getting worse but the week - that's not a transition period Im afraid . You can tell it’s not going to work for the manager can’t you, get a feeling based on what you’re seeing just the same as you call out the keeper early doors….nah nah the keepers decent ( good shot stopper but nothing else needed but he’s employed by a premiership team so he must be alright ) just the same as it’s a season to far for O’Donnell….cant say that ( it is ) fadingers fell off a cliff, longelo looks disinterested, right backs an issue, forwards up front don’t get any service & we finally put a cross in & guess what….score we’re absolutely clueless….these players aren’t bad players so it’s down to the manager We’re in a world of trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Not sure where to start on that game. Wrong team selection. If you have players available for specific positions then play them in their proper positions stop playing players out of position. didn't play as a team, amd each unit was disjointed as well. gifted a goal for opposition yet again. terrible on the ball but even worse off the ball. Alfred has a lot to sort out. It’s one thing getting beat when your team plays entertaining football and you enjoy watching them but right now we are not a good team to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago The glass half full guys glass must be emptying very quickly,we are brutal,defence,mid and up front,cant see any shape,formation or any idea what we are doing,too powederpuff all over the park and no leadership,not a team just poor individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Verheul Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Prestwickwell said: You can tell it’s not going to work for the manager can’t you, get a feeling based on what you’re seeing just the same as you call out the keeper early doors….nah nah the keepers decent ( good shot stopper but nothing else needed but he’s employed by a premiership team so he must be alright ) just the same as it’s a season to far for O’Donnell….cant say that ( it is ) fadingers fell off a cliff, longelo looks disinterested, right backs an issue, forwards up front don’t get any service & we finally put a cross in & guess what….score we’re absolutely clueless….these players aren’t bad players so it’s down to the manager We’re in a world of trouble Yeah it just feels like its not going to work with this manager. I don't want to be calling for a managers head in October but there's something not quite right and the early results papered over some of the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said: You can tell it’s not going to work for the manager can’t you, get a feeling based on what you’re seeing just the same as you call out the keeper early doors….nah nah the keepers decent ( good shot stopper but nothing else needed but he’s employed by a premiership team so he must be alright ) just the same as it’s a season to far for O’Donnell….cant say that ( it is ) fadingers fell off a cliff, longelo looks disinterested, right backs an issue, forwards up front don’t get any service & we finally put a cross in & guess what….score we’re absolutely clueless….these players aren’t bad players so it’s down to the manager We’re in a world of trouble yes - im pretty furious right now - like us all - we're desperate to see improvement. I honestly can't fathom what we do in training, nor can I fathom for the lift of me the sub choices. Nor can I see the approach we're trying to play - if it was 3-2 and we were simply out scored but had watched a game of free flowing football I think I could swallow that for now. echo your point 'We're in a world of trouble' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I'm now 50/50 on the manager. A real lack of fluidity throughout our side. Once again the opposition didn't have to work for their goals today and Im not disrespecting Killie when saying this. But..... some of our 'established' pros need to take a massive look at themselves. I can accept being beat, but when players chuck the towel in with 20 mins to go then, that's a totally different matter. Goalkeeper needs a break, I know he's saved us so many times after losing stupid goals, but, you can't be guaranteeing the opposition a goal a game. We are so lucky that most teams in the league aren't picking up points at a faster rate. Three massive games coming up, it was four, but we've already made a balls up of the first one. I'm old enough and ugly enough to recognise that last year was a monumental success, however, that as a Motherwell team is an anomaly, five defeats on the bounce and the prospect of Hearts coming to town, should be sounding the alarm bells, even amongst the HCC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, wellsince75 said: I was just about to ask how are people feeling about today - you often have a good sense about match day @mio. my sense is today is a must perform and must take something from the game - but no clue if we will see a reaction I don’t know where to start with that today. Firstly we deserved nothing. Players out there playing like it doesn’t matter. That defence!!! Woeful to a man, SODs worst performance in a few years, Sparrow an embarrassment of a full back. As much as I think Vogt is an amateur player at the very best he’d have done more than that imposter Maswanhise today…. The epitome of a player who doesn’t give a sh1t. Id give pass marks to Lowry who looked like he could at least create something and he tucked away his goal really well but as for anyone else it’s a no. Anyone who says we aren’t in quite a bit of bother here is fooling themselves. one thing for sure is that will be the last away day for me until I start to see a better level of performance and basic effort. My money can be better spent than watching that. The noises from the people around me were the same. A really disappointing day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Hunter Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Agree totally about right hand side, been saying for weeks sparrow aint a right back.. if he doesn't change that defence next week then yes I will be concerned as he isn't spotting the problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Alfred will get all the stick but the players need to have a hard look at themselves also It's obvious from last week's on park meeting when he was ignored by the players the are not confident in him and it shows on the park. Tactics seem awful. Play players in their preferred positions, its bloody simple . Giving every team a goal of a start in the first 10 mins , when he should have them psyched up for the game. To do the exact opposite. Preistman comming back is now looking like he won't be able to make a difference to that team or the tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Hunter Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Willie Hunter said: Not just the right hand side-the entire defence? was woeful with vast spaces everywhere which even the least capable sides can exploit. I was criticised before for suggesting the early season form was overhyped and it gives me no pleasure to affirm that I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago AJ not happy at all with performance. Hopefully now he comes out all guns blazing and if any of players aren't prepared to fight then they don't start. Give me 11 players prepared to fight for the jersey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 55 minutes ago Report Share Posted 55 minutes ago 35 minutes ago, El Grew said: Be interested I what Ya Bezzer has to say after this shit show!😏😏😏 “Some Motherwell fans really are deplorable individuals Yet again they are showing just how poisonous and toxic they are Deserve all they get after causing Graham Alexander to leave and shouting at Kettlewell Selfish, parochial and spoiled arseholes who are lucky to have a team to support when a wee club like ours really should be looking to merge with Accies, Airdrie and Albion Rovers for the good of Scottish football” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 52 minutes ago Report Share Posted 52 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, ppower said: Kilmarnock's first home win this season. Next stop Tynecastle. Now 5 loses on the trot. Next week will be 6. This could be the season we go down. The manager is a fraud. Not one signing has been a success. Total waste of money. I still haven't a clue what Plan A is never mind Plan B. Theres no plan in the world which can accommodate that defending...even the killue commentators were laughing and called it " Sunday league" ...we need to get some decent defenders in pronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted 52 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 52 minutes ago 1 minute ago, MJC said: “Some Motherwell fans really are deplorable individuals Yet again they are showing just how poisonous and toxic they are Deserve all they get after causing Graham Alexander to leave and shouting at Kettlewell Selfish, parochial and spoiled arseholes who are lucky to have a team to support when a wee club like ours really should be looking to merge with Accies, Airdrie and Albion Rovers for the good of Scottish football” Wow whit a team that wid be eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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