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  1. 10 points
    Funnily enough, whenever those two cup finals are raised there's also guys who say "well, we didn't win them, did we?" or who scream "that's all well and good, but we didn't qualify for the top six that season, did we? League form is what matters!" Those same guys are then pointed to last season when we finished 3rd, which is surely a good thing? Alas, no. Why? Well, it seems the argument is "if the league hadn't been cut short we'd never have finished third!" Wish I could tell the future as clearly as those lads. Basically, they don't want to hear any of it. They shift the goalposts to suit their argument. If you seriously think Robinson getting a new deal was a case of an old pals act you're mental. It was prudent business to keep hold of one of the most over-performing managers in the league. Paper over the cracks? Since his first full season as manager he's took us to 7th, 8th & 3rd, and yes, he took us to two cup finals. What exactly do you expect? If that record is "papering over the cracks" what would a successful replacement manage to do? What would be acceptable to you? As for buying "utter shite" it should go without saying that with our budget most of our signings will be a risk. We're bringing in guys on free transfers on low wages who are deemed worth a punt. We're not in a position where we can sign decent players who are a relatively safe bet for success. However, he's brought in the likes of Carson, Dunne, Kipre, Grimshaw, Hartley, Gillespie, Donnelly, Aldred, Gallagher, Polworth, Long, Watt, O'Hara, and O'Donnell who have all had varying levels of success from decent to very good. Perhaps just as importantly he has presided over the sales and profit of Kipre, Scott and Turnbull. He also led us on a decent little European run that brought in somewhere in the region of €780,000. I'm not sure what constitutes success in some people's minds, but what I've described above is really as good as it gets for a club like ours. Outwith a cup win, which we had two opportunities at only to fall to a dominant Celtic side. So long as we're not fending off relegation and potentially have a shot at a top six finish then I'll take it. Honestly, there's absolutely fuck all in Robinson's record to give any of our fans cause for despair. We're a small Scottish club with next to no money. We'll have period where we play utter dross. It's always happened. It always will happen. If you moaning types are feeling bad now, just think about this. See in years to come when Robbo is gone? We'll probably look back at the young players we had and the two cup finals, third place finish and European games as a time to look back on fondly.
  2. 8 points
    The signings this season in general have reminded me of a gambler chasing losing bets and trying to get back to where they started. It rarely works and all they end up with is a string of losing bets and no money left. Rickie Lamie, even setting specific mistakes aside, is one of those guys you just watch playing and think....how are you even a footballer? Slipping through the gaps is a phrase you often hear about really talented guys that never made it for one reason or another, but theres also a category of guys who in another life are sitting working in an office somewhere, that have somehow managed to squeeze themselves through the gap in the opposite direction in this one. There's also a case to be made for players who just fit/don't fit at certain clubs. Handsome John for example is one of the best strikers we've ever had at the club, but was useless at Hearts. You just can't wrap your head around guys like Jordan White though, who even fans of struggling lower league clubs think is rotten, and has never done anything decent at any club at any level, and yet end up at a 3rd place Prem side playing in Europe. That being said, I'm not at all in the Robbo out camp. This season is such a mental one for loads of reasons that have nothing to do with football, let alone Robinson, that as long as we don't get relegated I'm not paying much attention to it, and I certainly wouldn't be making any big decisions off the back of it.
  3. 5 points
    I have to agree with this, but I do think that Motherwell seem to be technically poorer than most of the other teams in the league. Just watching that game today it was clear that St Johnstone can pass and move better and do so with more pace than Mothewell. Our game is typified by slow movement of the ball, a lack of movement off the ball and multi-touch/mis-control. All of this gives the opposition more time to react and organise making it very difficult for us to create meaningful chances for our front players, and when those slow passes are made in a backwards direction, it places pressure on our back line ultimately resulting to the loss of goals. Basically, we need to be technically better.
  4. 5 points
    Here' s a link to St Mirren history - around the 2.25 mark
  5. 4 points
    Myself and a few others made the point about recruitment in the summer and were quickly shot down (too early to tell, give them a chance etc etc) which has quickly been proven as a correct assessment. I understand and largely agree with what others are saying regarding league positioning etc. being acceptable for Motherwell. Do I think that we will go down, not really, but that isn’t the point. The issue is we are not progressing whatsoever, quite the opposite. We need a clean slate and fresh start. We pulled in a huge amount of cash over the summer (for a club of our size), from league finishing to player fees and Europe. Arguably outside the top four in the league, we were prime positioned to kick on. We still got the season ticket sales, the club is still selling merchandise and so by in large, the loss has been felt in hospitality and away supports in terms of finances. Yes, perhaps being prudent was the answer, but exciting a support and having them engage and invest both financially and emotionally in a club at a time when money is tight and it’s easier to switch off than ever is absolutely paramount. That should’ve meant investing in exciting talent to nurture our own youth. What we’ve got is a lot of journeyman dross. Yes goalkeepers have been unlucky with injuries but the Pieman is a bombscare. Keep in mind we’ve got Dunne still on contract despite hardly kicking a ball in 2 years, Lamie and Mcginley who with their combined talents wouldn’t get into most Scottish championship sides, Grimshaw who should’ve been our the door instead of Tait, Mugabe (though decent at times is like Bambi on ice) Hastie who is a complete waste of a wage, a livi reserve on loan in midfield, seedorf who is proven to be useless, white who is a poor mans alex fisher and long who clearly didn’t even want to come back. As a club, management and hiring structure we have unquestionably failed the test of hiring well, exciting a support and ensuring that connection and investment from the fans. Will the gates of fir park soar when the supporters return, unlikely. Our top talent in Campbell is running down his contract as are our two internationals (both of which are a shadow of the players in Claret and amber than dark blue), it’s time to press reset and have a vision for the future that doesn’t involve alienating our core support and having a bloated squad of honest lads who give everything they’ve got, earn the right to play football and go again, but are in the end, shite
  6. 4 points
  7. 3 points
    Yes stop all this Robinson out shite, yes we had a bad day yesterday, but we are out of a cup we were never going to win,. Given the length of the injury list we have, all 1st team starters we are doing OK, a couple of games in hand and only 3 or 4 wins from being right back in the mix for the European places so cut SR some slack and as always judge him on where we finish not after 14 games.
  8. 3 points
    What are your expectations? Any good player we have gets sold, in the case of James Scott, within months of breaking into the team, and we are no worse than most of the rest of the league. We are shite but I don't feel we are relegation threatened. We are a bog standard, average team in this league. And for me that's more of a problem than the manager right now. The product served up for Scottish football fans is completely gash more or less right across the board. Show me any manager doing anything in this league, outside of Gerard? It's the league, it's Scottish football that's the problem. It's utter guff from top to bottom. There's no money in the game, no competition outside the top two, the standard is garbage and the whole shebang is in terminal decline in terms of finances, entertainment, talent. If firing Robinson stops 85% of all matches in Scotland being eye sores fire away but I doubt that's what will happen. All we'd get is another mediocre manager with a shit budget cobbling together journeymen that are roughly the same standard as the rest of the no hopers.
  9. 3 points
    We're dredging up this type of performance far too often with a win or two in between papering over the cracks. I don't even feel anger anymore as I've become accustomed to this pish. Not good enough.
  10. 3 points
    I'll not be paying personally. After buying our season tickets, I've not got a great interest in spending more money on live feeds as they are invariably shite. Truth be told, I've lost interest in watching the games via streams. The occasional Sky live game, drubbings aside, has been refreshing in comparison, but shite all the same.
  11. 2 points
    That was the most abject performance of the season. Sluggish and nervous at the back; lacking guile, skill and drive in midfield; indifferent and without sharpness, grit or focus up front. We surrendered to a completely average team who only had to be mediocre to turn a game from being a goal down to a victory that was surrendered up long before the final whistle. And my optimism got the better of me regarding Lamie. He’ll never do
  12. 2 points
    I dont think as a club we should be sacking a manager when we are sitting 8th regardless of a cup exit. I'm not defending him, I criticised him earlier in the thread but no sacking needed just yet.
  13. 2 points
    Not overly amused at that Cup exit. Nobody likes a defeat at any time but going out a Cup competition with barely a whimper tends to irk more than most. The performance wasn't there last week according to Mark O'Hara so I'd be interested to see what he made of today as it was even more poor than in Perth. And yet half an hour to go you find yourself ahead. Deserved or otherwise. Don't do anything daft, St Johnstone are hardly battering down to the door themselves. See it out. But no. It's difficult to have a great amount of sympathy when you are in winning positions two weeks in succession St Johnstone, a team of the ilk that if you are going to do anything, you need to be seeing off, and we can't hold leads in either of them. Lamie hasn't overly impressed when played at left-back so his introduction immediately raised eyebrows and his involvement unfortunately proved those held fears to be well founded. The second goal hardly covered ourselves in glory either. And after that, absolutely nothing. That you can't make much of an argument to say that St Johnstone didn't deserve the win says it all. The only consolation is that there's one less fixture to cram in next month. That's it, that's the highlight of our League Cup campaign, one game less to play. Poor stuff.
  14. 2 points
  15. 2 points
  16. 2 points
    I don’t think the club are ever trying to rip us off so any pricing is pretty genuine effort to be a fair compromise.
  17. 2 points
    The total time spent staring at the Verizon logo is worth exactly what you paid for it. Zero, for season ticket holders. About the price of a pint for overseas subscribers like myself. And overseas subscribers have more to complain about, because it's the upsurge in the numbers of the freeloaders that are causing the stress on infrastructure that we pay for. So, if anything, the season ticket holders owe each of us that pint.
  18. 1 point
  19. 1 point
    McGinley is fine...I've no idea why he was bombed up for lamie
  20. 1 point
    Agreed get campbell and maguire straight back in and o'hara beside gallagher,anybody but lamie at left back,I would go with mcginley but i wouldn't be surprised if we put o'donnell to the left and bring grimmy in.is suggesting hastie start one of your rotten jokes grizzly ,the last time he was seen it looked like he was trying to run with clown shoes on.we need a reaction,play similar to what we did on saturday and we will definately lose,big improvement needed.
  21. 1 point
    We all know it be Lasley taking over when Robbo goes so its a case of sit and wait.
  22. 1 point
    I would dread a final against Rangers this season. They would absolutely murder us at Hampdon.
  23. 1 point
    I would of understood robbo out at the start of the season but now? Since we won our first league game we’ve played 8 games losing 3(2 against the OF) drawn 1 and won 4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  24. 1 point
    I would add in Gorrin who had the potential to be very good, sadly we also lost him.
  25. 1 point
    Seamless transition. An Irishman for an Irishman. Robbo is a shoe in for the Celtic job.
  26. 1 point
    One made a debut at Norwich today, one has signed a 2nd deal at Leeds, one has started banging them in at Hull and Turnbull is self isolating in his gaff. How do you propose we better keep hold of our youth grand master yodo?
  27. 1 point
    I don't think we're in a hole yet but yes our style is impotent. Most of that comes back to our midfield which badly lacks pace and the only 2 wingers we have, Hastie and Seedorf, are not up to it. Polworth is ok up to a point but often disappears when the going gets tough, as he did today. That then leaves set pieces and long high balls in the thunderdome style (I love that word). We don't have the players to play thunderdome football and Polworth's set pieces aren't great. So, in short, changes in personnel are required. Whether thats possible is an entirely different matter.
  28. 1 point
    Correct … … he was forced to play Turnbull …… people on here were saying for weeks that he should’ve been playing but Robinson was pig headed and not playing him
  29. 1 point
    But he took us to cup finals and finished third last season. Keep it coming.
  30. 1 point
    Robinson wont play any of the younger players for reasons known only to him.
  31. 1 point
    There's been mistakes since the summer,our recuitment has been dire and the bucks stops with certain individuals for that,there was no forward planning with the guys we were bringing in,nobody to strengthen our first 11 and make sure that complacency didn't creep in among the players that got us 3rd last time out but truth be told we haven't even signed anybody that can make a difference even as a substitute.from the players point of view the level of mistakes that have been made from the ross county game up until that today have been nothing short of scandalous,it's every week we are shooting ourselves in the foot and it's simply not good enough.of course robinson needs to take his share of the blame,some of his team selections have been erratic,we've chopped and changed our formation enough times already this season and he's standing on the sidelines watching his team that can't string 2 passes together,the buck stops at his door for how were trying to go about things.to me it looks the players and management team are in a comfort zone right now,were just plodding along watching the same shit most weeks probably knowing there's atleast a couple of teams in the league that are worse than us.i don't expect much to change for us for the remainder of the season,we have to many average players,i would settle for 10th the now if i was offered it.
  32. 1 point
    Just when you think things can't get any worse, someone suggests a Scottish League One level winger is the answer...
  33. 1 point
    I don't think he was meaning the fans. I think it was a reference to the media and Rangers villifying our style particularly Bowman and McHugh.
  34. 1 point
    Beside the fact that lamie is absolute guff,mcginley should have started to try and combat the threat of ohallorans pace.sometimes a manager just needs to match up and letting lamie,who looks like he is towing a caravan up against ohalloran was a mistake on the managers part today.
  35. 1 point
    Why not continue with O’Hara at centre half? Grimshaw in midfield?
  36. 1 point
    They should be well beyond that by now, those basics are taught at grassroots. These are pros we're talking about. If they can't do the basics like control and pass by now they shouldn't be playing the game, certainly not at this level anyway.
  37. 1 point
    I think the point being made is we don't really have much more chance of winning a cup than a league. Our deplorable record against the Old Firm doesn't even come into it when we can't beat teams like Ross County or St Johnstone at home. The standard outside the OF is atrocious. Terrible standard of football, terrible standard of professionalism, most games are won and lost on who can be least bothered from kick off. There are McDonalds kitchen staff with a hundred times the enthusiasm and will to succeed than our group of players and our group of players are pretty much representative of a bigger picture. Our whole game is just some dreary rota of win some, lose some mediocrity.
  38. 1 point
    Blame at the managers door. Bringing in Lamie was a terrible decision
  39. 1 point
    Liam Grimshaw the central midfielder converted to a right back subbed on after not playing for weeks at left back has done more in 2 minutes going forward than Lamie did all game. Also this keeper is a decent shot stopper but is murder with the ball at his feet.
  40. 1 point
    That goal had everything that we don't; pace, drive, determination and a dangerous ball into the box.
  41. 1 point
    What?! Who else is there to blame? Players are blameless because the manager picks them?
  42. 1 point
    Credit to Lamie. Up like a salmon to win that.
  43. 1 point
    Good decision by club not to show it for free its that bad
  44. 1 point
    Don't think I've ever seen anything on YouTube. It was covered by the BBC as their highlights game on the Saturday evening - what a game - real fitba, not this tippy tappy pish we get now - fuck I'm sounding like my old man
  45. 1 point
    I saw his first goal of the season a few weeks ago. It was a classic.
  46. 1 point
    A free cup game would be good compensation for all the time we've spent staring at the Verizon logo.
  47. 1 point
    £12 for a stream of a cup game seems reasonable enough to me. Complainers on social media aren't being forced to buy, are they?
  48. 1 point
    The comment's on the facebook are ridiculous, What has buying a season ticket got to do with cup games? Club guaranteed 19 games in fir park live, i'm sure they were hoping fans would be back in the ground sooner rather than later but they will stand by that, some fans will of course claim that, some won't which is perfectly fine. Why would anyone be entitled to this cup game for free? if you want to watch, pay £12, if you don't, stick to the twitter feed and watch the highlights later on. Season tickets were purchased knowing fine well that you might not be in fir park all season, now it's being used against the club for the sake of £12.
  49. 1 point
    Cup games are never part of season ticket packages (or overseas MFC TV packages) so I'm not surprised this is PPV In fact, for me, it's an opportunity to see a game that typically isn't broadcast. Don't they also need to split the gate money in these ties? Considering that all the season ticket holders get all the league streams for free, paying for the odd cup game seems reasonable and I'm happy to throw the club a few extra quid every now and then. Also, the stream last week was rock solid.
  50. 1 point
    The comments on Facebook were quite scathing about having to pay for the cup game. Seems fair to me tbh.

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