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How astute some of our fans are when describing the Board as amateurs, they are correct. They receive no pay for what they do, so, by definition, they are indeed amateurs. As to the complaint that the Directors are not experienced on the Board of a football club, I would ask how do you become experienced on the Board of a football club without being on the Board of a football club? There was a post by David recently regarding the recruitment policy process of the club. Whilst not everyone may have agreed fully with his proposal at least he took the time and effort to put forward an extremely in depth, well thought out and articulate analysis as to what he believed could be improved. Unlike the vast majority of the posts on here which are just negative criticism and could, possibly, at times be classed as bullying and/or trolling. Also for those who are no happy with the direction the Club is heading, there are a number of possible options available. Option 1 1. Join the Well Society 2. Put yourself forward to be a Director of the WS 3. Get elected 4. Be nominated to be the WS Director on the Main Board 5. Put forward your proposals for change Option 2 1. Be asked to join the Board of MFC due to your existing skills 2. Put forward your proposal for Change Option 3 1 Buy MFC 2 Do what you like as you now own it Or go with what you currently seem best at – being negative and criticising others.

Lots claiming to have followed the team/ football for years but still don't seem to have a f__king clue how squads and transfer windows work. Let me spelL it out to the angry idiots clambering for more and more forwards. We’ve scored 3 fewer goals than the team in 3rd but conceded 15 more. maybe the management team have concluded we can use the 6 forward players in first and development squad plus attacking midfield to get the goals but maybe, just maybe, the defence needs some better options. Yes it would be great to get an established striker who has been banging them in consistently at Scot Prem level and wants to try a new experience playing in front of a bunch of roasters (not you ppower obviously as you’ve already fkd off) but there probably aren’t many about. it’s all very well having an opinion but there are so many totally deluded on this forum 🫨

Hi Folks Thought I would have new topic for this. I think we have all had our say over the past few days and 24 hours especially. Everyone entitled to their own opinion and as long as constructive and not getting personal with folk it's all healthy. I have my concerns especially after transfer window. The signings I think will be good but it's up front where I am worried but we just have to wait and see. We are currently 9th and in a lot healthier position than Livi. Ross Co game midweek massive and a win would be great especially against that walloper Adams. Tomorrow will be very tough against a very good side at the moment. However..........as fans we need to create a great atmosphere. If negativity in the stands starts it then transforms onto the pitch and players then get tense, heads drop etc etc. yes I know they get paid more than a lot of us but are still human beings. Getting told "get off, yer s***e, retire" don't help......(mind you that sounds like me doing stand-up) 😜😜 We see where we are at end of season. Kettlewell contract till end of season. If we go down he won't be retained. If we stay up then he maybe gets more time and hopefully learns and becomes better. I don't know the answers or outcomes but it is never an easy ride being a Well fan. Let's all unite and get behind the team and hopefully finish this season on a high. COYWWWWWWWWW

This. The KVV thing is on the other clubs, not us. We had a value and stuck to it, and that was the right thing to do.

Well we're supposed to be a Community Club and as much as you might not like it, that includes women. Why stop there though; why don't we do away with the walking football team, the power chair football team and all the other Community based projects and put all the money saved there into the first team squad. We can't have it both ways.

I see the curry club over in Pie and Bovril have been slating this forum. Quite ironic as many of them were having meltdowns last night that would put this thread to shame. I just find that an odd place as many of them enjoying being bedfellows with fans of other clubs. Anyway it has been quite a frustrating window esph with the injuries and recalls but in saying that if we managed to get another forward in I would have been quite content with the business that we have done.

I fail to see why we're still struggling to appoint a CEO? Do the board not read these forums. All the candidates they need are right here

Presumably he suffered that injury whilst signing his extension clause for next season....

I get that a forum is for all opinions and we can't all be positive but by God the last 24 hours have been negativity central. Some people really do have sad lives who just moan at anything. See the arseholes at your work that non stop say they hate their job moan at everything are generally also shite at their job. The same applies here in their football knowledge and so called support of their team. That guy/gal yesterday who said he hadn't been in 10 years but on moaning. Holy fuk that summed those sort of people up .

The clubs on a 'fire the manager cycle' - Aberdeen, Hibs, ourselves haven't really solved any of their issues. It's almost as if it's done to appease the fans rather than address the real issues.

Cheers pal, I like a balanced viewpoint where I think P and B will suit me There are certainly things wrong with the club. No escaping that. But to deal with people who can only see black is like speaking to a Tory about the qualities of say SNP or labour or vice versa. Completely deaf. take care and all the best David

Problem with that is that we havent had a manager you liked since Ive been on here.

Joining Celtic was the crime.

This thread only exists to taunt us 😪

And that is what it is all about ...healthy debate

Of course it does. You may be critical of the team and certainly have been of this manager. But at least you engage and back up your criticisms. I may not agree with you. But at least I can debate with you.

I agree and also with others that it’s more likely it will be a three way battle to avoid playoff but with us pulling away at the start of the split and finishing 9th or 8th. A big part of why I’m optimistic remains the apparent attitude and willingness of the players to respond to adversity. Okay we could have had better luck and judgement with signings but the squad seems together and that’s an important factor going into last 16 games

I never get why people talk about P&B vs here as if its not about 60% the same people

There are a few excellent posters on the Motherwell P&B in terms of thoughtful posts and statistics, but, for the most part, it's a big self-congratulatory circle jerk on that thread.

An interesting observation. I have made it clear that I am very much in the "sack him" camp, but it feels like he has a large % of our supporters who think we should stick with him. Those calling for his head are in the minority imo.

I do get what you're saying. I know you need a range if opinions but some of the stuff on here?? One poster is calling our players c*nts and the manager a tit...I know it's not the Sunday School but would you like someone talking to your family like that? Maybe don't answer that We are meant to be on the same side

As has been said by others, the figures for this year suggests the defence is needing more work than the attack. Perhaps Kettlewell is considering three at the back, and using the new fullbacks as wingbacks in a 3-5-2; I get that leaves the question about who partners Bair - maybe Spitall or Paton fills that role, or Vale. He was prepared to go with Montgomery and Gent so perhaps he sees merit in having additional fullbacks/ wingbacks who can play that role. I don’t see Kettlewell making deliberately negative choices that would/ could ultimately result in his sacking; why would he do that?

Totally, they are all posting about the mgr being in over his head etc and they hee haw about his intentions re playing squad...tbf the club will hopefully communicate this asap I am a clown for reading most of the posts on here

Who has told us we can't match Killie and St Mirren? we need to differentiate between can't and won't and it's a question that can be asked of the Society. There's a world of difference between the two positions.

Not sacking him would have been catastrophically disastrous. We would have been relegated. There was so much wrong with his tenure both on and off the field. The huge and very costly mistake was appointing him in the first place.

He also improved KVV regardless of what his detractors on here say. Just look at Kevs body language before SK and whats happened subsequently. There is no doubt he is able to connect with players and get them working for him. See also our last minute winners and equalisers this season. Our squad are still with him despite everything thats gone on.

As I said, I'm fairly sure they're using analytics to some degree. I certainly don't believe they're still operating like they were in the 90's. But I just can't see a way in which they're being used correctly. Or to its potential. When it comes to analytics, you can usually tell if they're being used due to patterns and trends that are visible in the actions of the companies using them after a period of time. I've looked long and hard, and for the life of me, I can't see anything from our transfer business that would suggest they're implementing them. This is why I've long believed that any issues we have at the moment most likely sit with the recruitment department more than anything else. As you say, the people running the club aren't idiots. They're certainly not amateurs. And the club is in a reasonably healthy position financially. Kettlewell has proven that he's got something about him as a coach as well. Which leaves one particular area. In my opinion anyway.

You do realise the use of data analytics has been around the club for a few years? It’s nothing new. How they are applied is what’s up for debate.

World of a difference being skint and not willing to pay exorbitant demands. As for your closing statement - often repeated yet, nothing constructive offered. A lack of understanding prevails also. Plenty of business acumen amongst these well meaning amateurs you speak of. Back on track to where? Club accounts clearly show the club as being stable. Financial climate has changed immeasurably and the well meaning amateurs have recognised that & fielding opportunities for investment latest interest earlier this week for example.

Let's get some context on this ffs, I have no doubt that there were lots of strikers available none of which were experienced, prolific regular starters as they are not available in a January window and especially not for the money we can offer. I'm sure SK tried but the harsh reality is we're not an attractive proposition for some players especially financially. So the players we brought in are what we can afford people need to realise as a club we are feckin skint. The usual suspects are slagging off Vale without seeing him play, they probably did the same for Higdon, and KVV so let's wait and see how it turns out. Our defence is just about the worst in the league so we sign defenders and people are still not happy ffs. As I've said before and no apologies for repeating myself the whole club set up / governance needs reformed the well meaning amateurs we currently have need to go as the club needs to get back on track and stabilise.

He's 43 now, and last played for Accrington Stanley over ten years ago. Might be within our budget, actually.

Not gonna disagree with that. My response was more in relation to letting strikers go before we got replacements in. I clouded it a little by making reference to Obika, because he is still with us. You are correct. He should never have been given 2 years. 6 months like Souare would have been fine given Mandron apparently knocked us back (not that I wanted to keep him anyway). If we go into the second half of the season with the strikers we have, then absolutely, its a failure. But it grinds my gears when you get post after post calling the manager clueless, out out his depth etc. Pretty sure SK knows what we have isnt enough. Pretty sure he knows we need at least 1 more striker in and that he has been trying like fuck to get one, because Im pretty sure he knows his job depends on it. The thought that he has been sitting on his arse watching all this unfold and doing nothing is for the birds. We are where we are due to other clubs being able to outbid us for players and the boards reluctance to break our wage structure. You can argue all day long about the rights and wrongs of that, but its not down to Kettlewell. Similarly with the barbed comments about full backs. SK has been getting slaughtered for playing SOD at RWB and for having a lack of width in the team and no cover for Gent. It looks like he has addressed these issues, but because we havent got a striker in, suddenly we have too many full backs. Its not an either or. You can recognise both weaknesses in the team and try to address both. FWIW, I do agree with your recent posts about this board needing a range of opinions, both negative and positive and I am aware of the fact that I am regarded as being firmly in the "Happy Clapper" brigade. Thats not to say, I dont see anything wrong with the club, some of the decisions taken, performances etc, but when you are swimming in a sea of negativity someone has to provide the ying to the yang.

For those suggesting we "pushed the boat out" for Van Veen, how far should we have pushed? Are you 100% convinced he'd have got the goals to keep us up? So you're guaranteeing he's fit and in form? And guaranteeing he won't get injured? Any player can get injured, can we afford to have stretched our budget for a guy only for him to be injured? Pushing the boat out for Van Veen would have been lunacy...

If he can fool all our trained medical professionals into thinking he's injured, I know who I'd be letting go.

Correct. Folk need to realise we`re skint. We had to get players out, before we could even make an approach for anyone. If they then don`t want to accept what wages we can afford, then it`s not the managers fault. It`s the Motherwell world we now live in folks. Depressing that Killie and St Mirren can out manouvre us finacially, but that`s the reality.

You can dress it up any way you like but if someone had said on 1st January that by the time this window closes we will have lost Biereth and the only forward replacement we signed was a kid from Blackburn with zero track record of scoring goals then it would have seemed unbelievable and totally unacceptable. But that’s where we are now. An absolute shambles of a transfer window.

Its been a decent window as a whole, Like the Nicholson and Halliday signings. The loans are all punts so here's hoping they do well and we'll see what Elliot can offer once he's fit. But i do feel we're still light up top and lacking an experienced CB to organise the 3

Definitely the worst pant wetting January window I've seen. I do consider some of it over the top. I will wait and see what the signings do before signing our demise. Certain facts still remain St J, Ross County and Livingston haven't exactly strengthened to any great degree and from the outside still basically look shite.

That we can agree on!

Ehhhhh sorry to point out the glaring flaw in your rant but our joint top scorer and joint 2nd top scorer are away so I dont think its unreasonable to require some strikers

This is it. Everyone keeps going on about stability but there fuck all we have seen that suggests we had it in the first place. "Canny keep sacking managers" aye, but doesnt mean we need to stick with one thats clearly in over his head.

For me we dodged a bullet with KVV, he's been shit at Groningen since he left in the summer, got his deal on past glories which he is very unlikely to repeat, but fair play to him for cashing in. This window has highlighted just how skint we are, we get the players we can afford, ie those on realistic wages or favorable loan deals, plus is coming to play in the Shire an attractive option for some. My main concern is that in 5 months time we will go through this whole nonsense again with another rebuild , we need stability and time to build a team, but only time will tell if we learn from previous mistakes and for me I don't think the current structure/ governance etc at the club is up to the challenge.

Folk will try to dress this window up in many different ways, but I don't see how it can be described as anything other than a predictable failure. I've had it with Kettlewell and Daws. And the Board. We're going nowhere forward with any of them at the helm.

A full back on loan from Cardiff

Our 7th fullback signing of the season. Kettlewell does have a wee bit of Lloyd Christmas about him.

Enjoy your trip Chanzeypopz stay safe enjoy the game. You might even see KVV😉 COYW

What are you the inquisition.

Seen more Motherwell games than you have had hot dinners. Was a season ticket holder for 25 years. No longer. You probably don't remember what a good Motherwell team looks like.

Hey. Someone asked the question I answered it. So feck off.

To be honest if that's the best we can sign we should not be in the Premier League. Total farce of a club. No CEO, no money, a hard core support of about 4000. To think we used to be a credible force in Scotland. Those days are gone and will not return.