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Aye, its time to lay off MJC and Steelboy. Everyone is different and there are extreme pessimists and extreme optimists in our support, and all shades of opinion in between. I often disagree with them both but at times they both write a lot of sense. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater folks. Lets get back on topic - by all accounts theres plenty of activity due later to occupy us.

Given that Livi have got about 20 fans they are all probably in a group chat with Martindale.

A full back on loan from Cardiff

I know their fan. I'll ask him.

Think he's probably more concerned about getting sunburnt from the lights

I get that and I know that in modern times it can be hard for fans to fork out their hard earned week in, week out to go and support the team. Life happens. But I’m not ‘having a go’ at fans who for whatever reason can’t go to the games. I’m more meaning those who could go but choose instead to spend their Saturday/or whatever at the pub or the bookies, or the bowling or the golf…all of which costs money too. I know a fair few Motherwell supporters who fall into those categories and I dare say others do too. Semi Finals? Cup Finals? European ties? They’re there. But run of the mill games against Kilmarnock on a Saturday and Ross County on a Tuesday night? Forget it. Like it or not we just don’t have a very good or loyal support with the exception of the small, faithful band of regulars.

The reason I've stayed away from Fir Park at times has nothing to do with being fairweather. It's genuinely been because I couldn't afford it. When I've had the cash to buy a season ticket I've always bought one. And when I can't go to a game I always offer my ticket out because I know what it's like not to be able to afford to go.

That's correct. You are right. I think what we can take away is they spent 1.4 million less than us in salaries. We lost a million, they broke even and just wait until we publish 2023 in line with them. 2 manager sackings and panic buys to stay in the league. That for me is why they are stronger just now and we are tightening up the purse strings. The board cant lose 7 figures two years in a row of "our money" in some ways. So get used to our new tighter squad whilst we work towards Break Even.

Well that doesn’t bode well since we know both Jack and Jill got injured!!

I think we may look back on not getting Van Veen as a bullet dodged...

So buddies could be signing KVV and we have signed Jack and Jili !! I'm here all night 😜😜

Just

He gets his Sunderland wage wherever he ends up. They will obviously go to the highest bidder but he's more likely to have got game time here.

So far we have added Midfield - Halliday Midfield - Nicholson LWB - Montgomery (injured) RWB - Elliot RWB - Devine LWB - Bubayu FWD - Vale I agree we need one more striker. But I think thats a pretty decent attempt at addressing the weaknesses in the squad. We can argue all day whether we should have pushed the boat out for KVV or not. Personally, I feel it would have been a boost for the team and support to get him. But I wouldnt have been paying silly money for the privelege. There are no guarantees in football, so everything is a risk. Brophy would be a good signing in the Halliday mould. Experienced, knows the league and could hit the ground running. He or someone similar would complete the set.

He is playing up front

I suppose you could ask Groningen if they got their money's worth. Kilmarnock can tell us in May.

It might not be our fault he was recalled but it will be our fault if he isn't replaced. And by ours i mean Kettlewell.

I don't think it's been his choice though,is it not a loan deal,therefore it's down to groningen to accept the best for them

In regards to both Moult and KVV, we should celebrate the fact that for both of them, the most productive spells in their career were with us. I don't doubt that KVV will be a good addition for Kilmarnock but I will be very surprised if he hits the heights of 12 months ago. Tony Watt possibly falls into that category also. We look forward now to unearthing the next hidden gem.

Aye a pity on that situation, Gent looked good pushed forward too although against lower league opposition it has to be said. On another note, how many loan signings have Ross County brought in now?! Noticed one of them is ex-Dundee Utd bombscare Loick Ayina. Glad we are not in that situation with Deek Addams (family) at the helm, be better off with Uncle Fester...

So do we think we'll get a striker in? If we don't it has to be the end of Daws surely?

Why spend £150,000 on a striker who scores goals when you can spend it on three wingbacks on 6 month deals?

To be honest if that's the best we can sign we should not be in the Premier League. Total farce of a club. No CEO, no money, a hard core support of about 4000. To think we used to be a credible force in Scotland. Those days are gone and will not return.

I agree, I don't think we should deviate from our wage structure (albeit I have no knowledge of what this is) for anybody, just personal opinion. Spittal has been an excellent signing, quite an underrated player I think. Good luck to the new signings - if Devine can play on either side that gives us some good options in wide areas. I'm quietly optimistic for the remainder of the season, be good to get another forward in before the deadline..! One more would give us a 1st team squad of 23 presuming nobody departs. As others have mentioned, Kettlewell and co. have done a pretty good job of trimming the squad down.

They don't they stopped that this season. OF only get one stand in Paisley.

That stand holds 1600

Firstly I’d say this discussion should be moved to its own thread as it has merit (maybe the mods can sort that) but heres my tuppence worth. I might be wrong but as the average gate attendance’s includes the away fans, is it not possible that their crowds are larger because they allow the arse cheeks more than one stand? Also, what is the comparison between how many we take to their grounds to what they bring to Fir Park?

Comes pre installed with the look of "what have I done?!"

We are long over due it but doesn't mean it will happen. We just need to get the club stable again. Get some decent money for Lennon Miller and get ourselves sorted out. If we come through the next 6 months there's no reason to think we can't put the shambolic last 2/3 years behind us.

Will be with us for rest of the season.

He's minging on plastic so hopefully that works out terribly.

West Ham sing "I'm forever blowing bubbles", we will be singing "Tinnnnnyyyyy Bubbbblllesssssss"

Someone is clearly bankrolling them then.

That's assuming he has the kind of spell he had with us before he moved on.

I am as well. Seriously as much as I rate big Kev I wish he would just sign for someone and we can move on from this

If Van Veen is playing for Killie at the weekend this could be a belter of game. The guy was having meltdowns 5 minutes after getting back to Holland good luck playing in front of the East Stand.

The club stands on Fir Park Street

there the same guy

I wouldn't say it was an embarrassment. Not much club can do if Blackburn boot us in the baws and KVV goes to a club that are willing to fork out wages on a par with their early 90's when they had victor, Archibald and Tomas Stickroth. Let's just wait and see how things develop

If this is true it could push SK over the edge 🤣

Just leave this here 😁 you swear it's personal with St Mirren

Steak & Kidney's grandson. Can he yodel for Yoda?

Read what I wrote, then do some basic research and then come back to me...

I remember the furore when we signed Higdon and he turned out not too bad. Let's give Vale a chance before making any judgements.

You're right. Two goals having only started five games, appalling...

Been an interesting window so far . we started with a small squad , we’ve offloaded more than we’ve brought in . some of the signings appear v decent . hopefully a few more in today

Some of us are not Enjoying the transfer silence. I just hope Daws/Kettlewell never lets me down again.

And you're giving him some.

The arse end(s) of Ally McLeod were a toss up with Watson but aye, pretty horrendous stuff. If forums and Steelboy existed at that time, it would have been a right laugh 🙂 On the upside, Hay coming in gave us the best section of a season ever, 7-0, 5-0, fucking over Hearts to stop them coming up.......but was it worth the crap that went before ?

So you're checking out potential signings now so you can pan them before they play, your dedication is commendable