​🏆​SC Greenock Morton v Motherwell 09/02/2024

[bobbybingo]

2 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

Check you're facts, not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate. As I previously said, it wasn't a game for young Miller, but plenty games it will be. I've watched us for over 60 years, some ups, some downs. We move on. But 100%, Imrie didn't beat us on tactics and now way is he good enough to be a top manager. He's just a throwback to an angry man type manager. 

I've already acknowledged this was his second game against us. That's the only fact. Why you think they won and we lost is opinion.

What's Dougie Imrie's disciplinary record as a manager?

 

[dennyc]

11 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

Check you're facts, not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate. As I previously said, it wasn't a game for young Miller, but plenty games it will be. I've watched us for over 60 years, some ups, some downs. We move on. But 100%, Imrie didn't beat us on tactics and now way is he good enough to be a top manager. He's just a throwback to an angry man type manager. 

Talking of an angry man! Maybe you should check your facts.

Like him or loathe him, Imrie's record at Morton is decent. Since taking charge in late 2021 he led them clear of probable relegation and then missed the play offs last season on goal difference. Currently in a play off position on a good unbeaten run. Numerous Manager of the Month awards and a win % in excess of 40. In a League where his budget is way below the majority of his opposition. And the team he coaches has just deservedly beaten a team from the Division above. As I said previously, credit where credit's due.

[Kmcalpin]

41 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate.

Can I check my understanding of what you said Dougie? More on me than you. You're saying the manager got his tactics pretty much spot on and that his team selection, with the exception of Miller, and substitutions was pretty fine as well. The players couldn't or wouldn't (we don't know which) follow out his instructions. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

56 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.

Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something else  and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.

This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.

So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceo  watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.

You are a better man than me mate , I only travel from EK to Motherwell. If I had 70 mile round trips I think I'd be done. 

[robsterwood]

1 hour ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.

Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something else  and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.

This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.

So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceo  watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.

Feel the same. I been going 45 years too and similar age. I'm fed up if the constant rebuilding and as soon as we get half decent player, we loose him. I know we are a selling club but the fans must have something to inspire us and keep going. It's getting boring and predictable. I remember we used to have at least one player worth going to see. Not too excited about which space in bottom 6 we will get to. Will see what CEO has to say also. 

[bobbybingo]

Och well, would've been a trip to Parkhead.

[Clackscat]

3 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.

 

 It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement. 

Your post summed up how I've been feeling for a few years and interesting how it has generated similar responses.

Been following since early 70s when living in EK, been in Clacks for 35 years now, thats been a lot of 80 mile round trips (although at least I'm closer to Dundee, Perth, Aberdeen 🤣).

We had 2 season tickets in the family, both lapsed, and increasingly its only to meet up with great folks I've met over the years that keeps me going, but not as frequently as before.

I don't blame any one thing for this; it's many things from overall state of Scottish Football, my utter contempt for the Old Firm, the constant stream of loan players and a lack of quality and entertainment, while understanding our finances, the bile that occasionally surfaces when things go wrong.

I've had some great times and experienced great moments in my time following, but they are fading into the past and frankly I don't see any of that returning

Will still attend fairly regularly but it's now down the order of priorities and I'm past getting angsty about it. Indeed maybe it is just an age thing.

 

[GazzyB]

Completely agree with some of the above posts. I just turned 34 and whilst I don’t go to any games I support my team just as much from afar. I spent a few months in California there and I was up at 7am every week to watch us get absolutely scudded and put in awful performance after awful performance. These days it feels much more like a chore and something I do out of necessity rather than enjoyment.

 

I don’t think it’s an age thing. I think the mediocrity and staleness of it all is just getting to people, and as someone above said it looks like it’s going to be that way for the next while.

 

Oh well, Aberdeen Hearts and Celtic up next. 

[texanwellfan]

38 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Och well, would've been a trip to Parkhead.

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[bobbybingo]

5 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

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If we had gone through we'd have been ball 7 and drawn away to Celtic. I know....

[El Grew]

Like a few others who have posted I’ve been going to Fir Park since the mid to late 1960s. In that time there’s been lots of great highs and heartbreaking lows.

However I can’t help feeling that for a few years now the club has fallen into an ever descending downward spiral.

Other than our struggling on the playing side (which inevitably fluctuates from year to year) there are other worrying factors at play.

We occupy a ground that’s been way past its best for a long time now and despite the large amounts of money shelled out on it in recent years it really isn’t fit for purpose anymore. It seems  that the club has lacked and probably still does lack vision to deal with this. I think other than Dens Park our ground is the worst in the top flight.

We still haven’t appointed a new CEO or found a new chairman and the club has been allowed to become rudderless for too long.

By its the own admission the badly needs an injection of new investment.  The recent attempt at trying to attract interested parties was a bit amateurish and seems to have been fruitless - other than a few people joining the Well Society.

I always looked forward to the cup competitions but our recent performances in these have been mediocre and for the second year running we’ve been knocked out of the Scottish Cup by a team from a lower league.

It may well be an age thing but going to games now has become more of a penance than a pleasure.

[santheman]

Maybe we should start a Grumpy Old Men's Club.

Meet before home games in Club100 and reminisce about the good old days of the 60's and 70's.

[FirParkCornerExile]

21 minutes ago, santheman said:

Maybe we should start a Grumpy Old Men's Club.

Meet before home games in Club100 and reminisce about the good old days of the 60's and 70's.

😆😆 And I bet we'd all recognise one another without ever having met. 

[Kmcalpin]

I've been going to Fir Park since the late 50s and haven't lost my enthusiasm. I still get annoyed at defeats but am no longer surprised. TV has changed the game irreversibly and its a small, very small  consolation, that it's nothing to do with me. I'll continue to support MFC come what may. 

[Mad Dog]

1 hour ago, bobbybingo said:

Och well, would've been a trip to Parkhead.

Just out of interest, does anyone know how much the club earns from a trip to Park head?

I'm not sure it's that much but then I've never been and am basing my opinion in the low numbers of our fans that are permitted to attend.

Or does the club get a share of the whole attendance?

[bobbybingo]

On 2/10/2024 at 3:35 PM, steelboy said:

Their stinking attitude got us into the playoff.

As I alluded to in the next sentence you didn't quote.

[FirParkCornerExile]

8 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

I've been going to Fir Park since the late 50s and haven't lost my enthusiasm. I still get annoyed at defeats but am no longer surprised. TV has changed the game irreversibly and its a small, very small  consolation, that it's nothing to do with me. I'll continue to support MFC come what may. 

The club is fortunate to have guys like you , guys like me not so, I'm at the stage after unstinting support for 46 years I'm sick to the back teeth of it. I could walk away tomorrow. It's only habit that keeps me going and the great people I have gone to games with. If they gave up I'd finish tomorrow. I stress it's got fuck all to do with the Morton game. I thoroughly expected that result. I've felt like this for 5/6 years now.

[Electric Blues]

38 minutes ago, El Grew said:

However I can’t help feeling that for a few years now the club has fallen into an ever descending downward spiral.

Thing is, it's not just our club. I could live with that, having seen us play even worse at times over these many long years. And at least we haven't been relegated, unlike Hibs, Hearts, Dundee, Dundee Utd etc.

However, the whole league is now an increasingly bad joke - I mean, how can we be THIS bad this season, and still be above so many other teams? The general quality is in the toilet, "entertainment" is often non-existent (thank heavens for KVV last season) and the spiral is indeed ever-downwards, I just can't see any light at the end of this dismal tunnel.

[santheman]

19 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

😆😆 And I bet we'd all recognise one another without ever having met. 

Probably all former members of "The Choir" 😁

[grizzlyg]

What annoys me is every time there is a defeat it's manager must go....we are rotten....board clueless ...we are skint.

We had a great performance v Ross co and yup were rank rotten v Morton .   I was raging after Friday but I don't suddenly think it's doom and gloom.  Kettlewell needs to grow a pair and stop being loyal to some players.

I have been going to fir park somewhere nice 1977 as a 5 yr old and will continue to do so.  It's a rollercoaster supporting Well which we all have to accept

COYW

[grizzlyg]

5 minutes ago, santheman said:

Probably all former members of "The Choir" 😁

Should have a forum night out and we all turn up with name badges revealing who we are ....now that would be entertaining!!🤣🤣

[joewarkfanclub]

4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Should have a forum night out and we all turn up with name badges revealing who we are ....now that would be entertaining!!🤣🤣

I will be the one with his glass half full! 😉

[MJC]

The whole club is stagnant and directionless and there is a great deal apathy surrounding everything just now and that’s been the case for a good few years now. 
 

As a club we have zero ambition and a gutless yellow streak which results in our dismal cup performances, in my opinion. The other night was no surprise whatsoever, just like Raith Rovers a year ago today wasn’t either. And let me be clear here. I am not expecting us to win Cup competitions but i would prefer it if we didn’t whimper out early the minute we are paired with a fellow top flight side or mid to high table Championship team as we do all too often.
 

Basically the extent of our ‘ambition’ these days appears to be to be less shite than the shitfest two teams in the division and hope we can avoid relegation, anything else is a bonus. We are always skint, as the club constantly ram down our throats the product on the park reflects this. 
 

I don’t know what the plan is. I don’t even know if there is anyone in place to put a long term plan in place but it just feels like we trundle along until the year we are eventually relegated, and when that happens we will almost certainly be looking at part time football.

Sad times.

[Kmcalpin]

31 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Just out of interest, does anyone know how much the club earns from a trip to Park head?

Very roughly it would 80% of 33% of the gate. Extra prize money of course. 

[joewarkfanclub]

3 hours ago, MJC said:

The whole club is stagnant and directionless and there is a great deal apathy surrounding everything just now and that’s been the case for a good few years now. 
 

As a club we have zero ambition and a gutless yellow streak which results in our dismal cup performances, in my opinion. The other night was no surprise whatsoever, just like Raith Rovers a year ago today wasn’t either. And let me be clear here. I am not expecting us to win Cup competitions but i would prefer it if we didn’t whimper out early the minute we are paired with a fellow top flight side or mid to high table Championship team as we do all too often.
 

Basically the extent of our ‘ambition’ these days appears to be to be less shite than the shitfest two teams in the division and hope we can avoid relegation, anything else is a bonus. We are always skint, as the club constantly ram down our throats the product on the park reflects this. 
 

I don’t know what the plan is. I don’t even know if there is anyone in place to put a long term plan in place but it just feels like we trundle along until the year we are eventually relegated, and when that happens we will almost certainly be looking at part time football.

Sad times.

Hard to put in a long term plan when everytime we hit a bad run some of our fans are screaming for the manager to be sacked.

There are clearly changes requiring to be made in the structuring of the club. However, that is now underway.

Once that is done hopefully the new incumbents will carry out a root and branch review of where the club is at and make the necessary changes.

I get its been a shit couple of seasons and many mistakes have been made. But the darkest night is just before the dawn. We just need to get to the end of this season still in the top flight and take it from there.