2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion

[SteelmaninOZ]

3 hours ago, santheman said:

They picked it up from some random bloke on FB claiming to be "in the know".

Don’t think it’s steelboy? 🤔

[FirParkCornerExile]

Also another one saying deal done and dusted to Bolognia for £8.4 million. The reality is it's probably all pish. 

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Also another one saying deal done and dusted to Bolognia for £8.4 million. The reality is it's probably all pish. 

Now that would be a rumour I hope is true.  Obviously not wanting Lennon to leave but that money would be immense for us.  Kettlewell could sign 3 x £2 million strikers and just pump high balls to them!! 🤪🤪🤪

[weeyin]

Would be great if true, but I get the feeling that someone read Faddy's interview where he says he'd like to see Miller move abroad like Lewis Ferguson and decide "He's definitely going to Bologna".

[SteelmaninOZ]

The cash could pay for a new pod no? 

[weeyin]

2 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

The cash could pay for a new pod no? 

To paraphrase the old joke, for that kind of money we wouldn't need to raise the slope on the pitch - we could have lowered Motherwell.

[joewarkfanclub]

2 hours ago, weeyin said:

Would be great if true, but I get the feeling that someone read Faddy's interview where he says he'd like to see Miller move abroad like Lewis Ferguson and decide "He's definitely going to Bologna".

Every chance.

However, Bologna's old manager is now at Juventus and there was talk of him taking Ferguson there befor he got injured.

If Ferguson has a strong finish to the season, Bologna might be in the market for a new midfielder.

Be a far better move for Lennon imho.

[weeyin]

100% agree. I think Turnbull missed a trick by not moving abroad, and hope the recent success of other Scottish and English players moving to Italy might influence his next move.

Max Johnston's career is developing pretty well too. I see he has quite a few starts this season in the league and in the Champions League.

 

[Mortonhallwell]

My worry is that Septic came in for heavy criticism after losing out on John McGinn and won't want to make the same mistake twice. However I desperately hope he does not end up at Parkhead. 

[weeyin]

14 minutes ago, Mortonhallwell said:

My worry is that Septic came in for heavy criticism after losing out on John McGinn and won't want to make the same mistake twice. However I desperately hope he does not end up at Parkhead. 

I think the criticism was more to do with his family connections. With his grandfather being an ex-Celtic chairman, it was assumed by many he would be a cert to sign for them. 

[santheman]

I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game.

Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in.

Boy looks as if he needs a rest.

[mio]

14 minutes ago, santheman said:

I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game.

Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in.

Boy looks as if he needs a rest.

It’s admirable that he wants to play but I agree. He’s had a lot of football this year and I think this should be managed slightly better. I personally think Kettlewell should have been informing him to not get involved in these u19 games as they will not benefit him in the slightest.

[Kmcalpin]

30 minutes ago, santheman said:

I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game.

Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in.

Boy looks as if he needs a rest.

100% agree. He also looked tired and jaded at the weekend. Maybe we should rest him in Dingwall? 

 

[Happy Dosser]

I'm even more worried that he gets injured playing for Scotland U19. We can't afford  him to be out for a run of games.

[David]

It's absolutely wild that he's still being picked for the under-19's in my opinion. No doubt the very minute he makes a move elsewhere he'll be right into that senior international side.

[weeyin]

25 minutes ago, David said:

It's absolutely wild that he's still being picked for the under-19's in my opinion. No doubt the very minute he makes a move elsewhere he'll be right into that senior international side.

According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s.

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"It was him that wanted to play in those games which I think is testament to himself. He just wants to play football and get as many minutes in the tank as possible. And enjoy playing with his age group that he's grown up with and playing against and with over the years."

 

[well_said]

9 minutes ago, weeyin said:

According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s.

 

Does his dad pay his wages?

[thewelllfan]

I've got to be honest 5.3M with a sell on clause is good business but I'd rather we get about 6/7M upfront + a smaller sell on clause especially if he goes to Celtic cos I can only see his value dropping from there.

[David]

18 minutes ago, weeyin said:

According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s.

I wonder if he'd have felt the same way had he been called up to the senior squad, as he should be now. 

[0Neils40yarder]

6 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

The cash could pay for a new pod no? 

I've a feeling that you're right...its no coincidence that there have been murmurings of working groups and such looking at the viability of restructuring areas of the ground, just at the optimum time to punt the clubs cash cow.

2 hours ago, santheman said:

I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game.

Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in.

Boy looks as if he needs a rest.

I agree...he looks knackered. He's an 18 year old kid who, apart from playing constantly, is now the captain and has incessant speculation on his future to contend with. The fact the SFA called him up to the 19s was ludicrous but the fact we didn't insist on his withdrawal was criminal...although I understand that the player would have the final say.

17 minutes ago, thewelllfan said:

I've got to be honest 5.3M with a sell on clause is good business but I'd rather we get about 6/7M upfront + a smaller sell on clause especially if he goes to Celtic cos I can only see his value dropping from there.

He's an outstanding 18 year old player playing in the SPL for a smallish provincial club...I'd love these figures to be accurate but I have my doubts that we'd be demanding that type of cash and that there will be clubs out there willing to pay it.

 

Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey?

[thewelllfan]

2 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

I've a feeling that you're right...its no coincidence that there have been murmurings of working groups and such looking at the viability of restructuring areas of the ground, just at the optimum time to punt the clubs cash cow.

I agree...he looks knackered. He's an 18 year old kid who, apart from playing constantly, is now the captain and has incessant speculation on his future to contend with. The fact the SFA called him up to the 19s was ludicrous but the fact we didn't insist on his withdrawal was criminal...although I understand that the player would have the final say.

He's an outstanding 18 year old player playing in the SPL for a smallish provincial club...I'd love these figures to be accurate but I have my doubts that we'd be demanding that type of cash and that there will be clubs out there willing to pay it.

 

Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey?

Miller is a better all round player, but I'd pick Turnbull every single time due to the goals and assists.

[Yassin]

12 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey?

I reckon Miller's probably technically+ definitely physically better and more equipped to move up a few levels and really shine in the modern game- but I think you'd be mental to say that Turnbull didn't have a bigger impact on games week to week than Miller has had so far.

To be fair I'm not even sure if Turnbull had made his debut by the age Miller is now?

[wellsince75]

49 minutes ago, Yassin said:

I reckon Miller's probably technically+ definitely physically better and more equipped to move up a few levels and really shine in the modern game- but I think you'd be mental to say that Turnbull didn't have a bigger impact on games week to week than Miller has had so far.

To be fair I'm not even sure if Turnbull had made his debut by the age Miller is now?

Miller , Turnbull and Faddy are all players who will last long in the memory and all 3 quite different players. 

If I was a little bit older then Mclair and McAllister would also be on the list. 

All bloody good players who each brought something special to FP. 

[Yabba's Turd]

2 hours ago, wellsince75 said:

Miller , Turnbull and Faddy are all players who will last long in the memory and all 3 quite different players. 

If I was a little bit older then Mclair and McAllister would also be on the list. 

All bloody good players who each brought something special to FP. 

We signed Mclair from Aston Villa and Mcfadden from Hearts I think, they weren't academy products as such (from memory)

[joewarkfanclub]

32 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

We signed Mclair from Aston Villa and Mcfadden from Hearts I think, they weren't academy products as such (from memory)

Brian McLair certainly signed for us after being at Aston Villa youths but I had to go and check about Faddy as I had never heard of the Hearts link.

We seem to be the only team listed on his youth career from aged 15. But there is an article in the Daily Record saying that he had signed S-forms with Hearts but was training with us. In the interview Faddy says he was training at Motherwell from aged 12. So no idea what the actual situation was with Hearts?