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Motherwell v St Johnstone 26/04/2025


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Well that was unnecessarily stressful, at 3-1 we should have managed that better but let’s be honest, 2 poor teams and 3 points was crucial considering the other results.

i think we are safe and away from 2nd bottom now.

Slattery and Watt were excellent. Another season in the top flight awaits thankfully 

 

 

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Just now, wellsince75 said:

great to get the points and move us play-offs . 

Bring back Ox, that's 21 goals in 11 games since Balcombe came in.   

Most of that is down to our terrible defenders. I'll give them more of a pass today due to lack of available personnel, but our defence has been honking for a few seasons now.

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Since we only have 2 home games after the split it was really vital to win this today. Mission accomplished on that score but it was far too close for my liking.

However, steps need to be taken to ensure we get a few better quality players in for next season.

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2 minutes ago, mio said:

Well that was unnecessarily stressful, at 3-1 we should have managed that better but let’s be honest, 2 poor teams and 3 points was crucial considering the other results.

i think we are safe and away from 2nd bottom now.

Slattery and Watt were excellent. Another season in the top flight awaits thankfully 

 

 

I’m not that comfortable yet although we have ruled out automatic relegation and I think a win next week would secure safety 

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4 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Most of that is down to our terrible defenders. I'll give them more of a pass today due to lack of available personnel, but our defence has been honking for a few seasons now.

Defenders had nowt to do with his poor performance. He dropped several ariel balls that could have cost us.  He was signed as a dominating goalie. He is the complete opposite. Defenders have zero confidence in him.

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43 minutes ago, MJC said:

We just cannot help ourselves when two goals ahead. We’re not winning this one. 

Talking shite again I see

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29 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Defenders had nowt to do with his poor performance. He dropped several ariel balls that could have cost us.  He was signed as a dominating goalie. He is the complete opposite. Defenders have zero confidence in him.

100% this, he gives me the fear big time, how he is still getting picked ahead of Oxborough is crazy.

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3 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

100% this, he gives me the fear big time, how he is still getting picked ahead of Oxborough is crazy.

He couldn't catch the cold. Get him out and put our goalkeeper for next year back In Ox.

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32 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

I’m not that comfortable yet although we have ruled out automatic relegation and I think a win next week would secure safety 

I'd be amazed if 42 points isn't enough to stay above 11th.  

2023/24 11th team (and 10th) had 35

2022/23 11th had 34 and 10th had 40

2021/22 11th had 35 and 10th had 42

2020/21 11th had 36 and 10th had 39

2019/20 Covid year so skipped it

2018/19 11th had 32 and 10th had 33

I won't go back any further, but it would be an unusual table this year if 42 is anything less than 10th.

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36 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Defenders had nowt to do with his poor performance. He dropped several ariel balls that could have cost us.  He was signed as a dominating goalie. He is the complete opposite. Defenders have zero confidence in him.

I'm not saying he's great. I'm saying our defence has been terrible for at least 3 seasons and even if today's keeper let a dozen soft goals this season that would a minor contribution to the overall honkingness of that car crash that is our central defence.

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5 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'm not saying he's great. I'm saying our defence has been terrible for at least 3 seasons and even if today's keeper let a dozen soft goals this season that would a minor contribution to the overall honkingness of that car crash that is our central defence.

A defence needs a commanding goalie. One that takes the pressure of them when a ball comes into the six yard box. Apart from a brief time before Ox confidence was dented at a cross ball, we not had one for many a season. A good competent goalie who organises and catches crosses seem to be rare these days.

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8 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'd be amazed if 42 points isn't enough to stay above 11th.  

2023/24 11th team (and 10th) had 35

2022/23 11th had 34 and 10th had 40

2021/22 11th had 35 and 10th had 42

2020/21 11th had 36 and 10th had 39

2019/20 Covid year so skipped it

2018/19 11th had 32 and 10th had 33

I won't go back any further, but it would be an unusual table this year if 42 is anything less than 10th.

Yeah I think we are now safe.

i was concerned today as I just didnt see us having the necessary fight to beat st Johnstone. I failed to take into account how sh1te st Johnstone are.

i think we have enough in us to pick up 1 more point in the remaining games and I think County’s result today was a shocker for them, so I see them staying in the play off position. I’d love to see Killie in that position but due to them having another home game at that abomination of a park I think they’ll claw the points required there.

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59 minutes ago, David said:

Cool. 

Three points in the bag. Much ado about hee haw. 

And you knew that when we conceded to bring the scoreline back to 3-2 with 25 minutes to go did you?

54 minutes ago, stv said:

Talking shite again I see

I wouldn’t say “talking shite” it’s just me making an observation that we cannot help ourselves chucking the opposition a lifeline when we are two goals ahead. Which we have done so many times over the years. Fortunately today it didn’t end with us dropping points.

Anyway, enjoy your evening. 

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I'm not a balcombe fan, but it was absolutely clear that poor defending caused both goals. For the first, Sparrow got caught and mcpake had the freedom of fir park to play a ball back to Kirk, who got in front of his man.

The second was just as bad, we left them with acres of space in the midfield and on the left, then it was played into the St J player who had all the time in the world to pick his spot.

Maybe balcombe could have saved those, but the shots should never have happened.

He is very shaky from high balls, and that drop in the 2nd half was almost as bad as Ox's v hearts.

 

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Thankfully my pessimism for todays game unfounded. Played pretty well for 65 mins . Fell back into our achilles heel of falling back and inviting opposition onto us. Thought Watt MoTM by a country mile but also thought Miller and Slattery played well and wont please the SOD haters but thought he had a solid game too. Thankfully Wimmer can seriously look towards next seasons rebuild now. 

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Not that he's our next £3m man or anything, but the more I see of Johnny K, the more surprised I am at how little game time he got prior to Wimmer arriving. There could be many reasons for that, I suppose, and I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

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Aye think that's it cant see us being anywhere near the play offs decent performance the guys did put in a shift but for we really need to push up the pitch much quicker we are inviting trouble time and time again.

Koutroumbis I am really warming to him he has never giving up and has came into the team not really done much wrong hope he just keeps it up gets his chance.

Tell you one thing I would do is get right on the blower when St J go down and find out about Mackenzie Kirk a very good player in the making pretty impressed by him.

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