weeyin Posted Saturday at 11:51 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:51 PM 1 hour ago, Spit_It_Out said: There is a reason we are in the position we are Kettlewell and injuries can't be blamed for everything. It's Kettlewell's team, we have one fit central defender and the guy SK signed to be our main striker is also crocked. There's not much blame left to assign elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 07:18 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:18 AM 9 hours ago, MelvinBragg said: 😂 Build around two guys, one of whom has been central to this season's dodgy defence and another who has been injured for the majority of this season and is 35 in October. Still better them than bombscare Casey... Unless Wimmer can find a way to nullify McGinn’s extension and Gordon’s contract, then of course he will have to build a defence around them next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted yesterday at 07:29 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:29 AM Forgive me but was McGinn's extension not offered under Wimmer's watch? O'Donnell's he could do nothing about as it was automatically triggered. But having one 30 plus right back that's been converted to a centre back, did we really need another with McGhee arriving and Balmer still on the books. Basically, for me the decision to renew McGinn is one of the stupidest we've made in some time... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted yesterday at 07:53 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:53 AM 22 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said: Forgive me but was McGinn's extension not offered under Wimmer's watch? O'Donnell's he could do nothing about as it was automatically triggered. But having one 30 plus right back that's been converted to a centre back, did we really need another with McGhee arriving and Balmer still on the books. Basically, for me the decision to renew McGinn is one of the stupidest we've made in some time... More stupid than actually giving SOD a clause in his contract that could be activated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted yesterday at 08:05 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:05 AM McGinn was contracted till 2025 with the option of another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted yesterday at 08:47 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:47 AM McGinn and Sod are getting on a bit sadly getting more injury prone as you get older it's life so to be relying on them for an entire season would be madness. Sod at center back time and time again mistake after mistake everyone can see this his positioning is shocking when playing this role so expect more of the same if we continue with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted yesterday at 10:24 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:24 AM Watching highlights and SOD terrible for 1st goal but go easy on him folks.....it's his birthday today 😁😁🎂🎂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM All the other strikers in the league know it's their birthday when he's in the opposing team.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 12:21 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:21 PM 16 minutes ago, well_said said: All the other strikers in the league know it's their birthday when he's in the opposing team.😄 That's true of our entire defence. Something SK never managed to fix. I said it then, and I'll keep saying it. Regardless of what you think of an individual player, the defensive unit has been broken for a few seasons now and needs a complete rebuild. We needed to clear them all out and rebuild it from scratch. O'Donnell has his faults, but if you play him as a central defender beside a guy who has even less positional sense, you don't need to be Nostradamus to predict the outcome. I know that was pretty much our entire set of fit defenders, but even our first choices aren't exactly inspiring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: Watching highlights and SOD terrible for 1st goal but go easy on him folks.....it's his birthday today 😁😁🎂🎂 Happy birthday SOD . in fairness his strengths and weaknesses are there for all to see . He’s been asked to play in a position that doesn’t suit him. for a squad of +30 and a youth team it’s not great that an aging wingback is the medium term answer for an an aging right centre half who’s injured . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago Disappointing result yesterday and it looks increasingly like the season is going to end with a whimper. It is difficult to know if Wimmer is taking the team forward at the moment. The lack of defenders does not help. It would be interesting to compare the stats for Kettlewell and Wimmer this season. One thing I find really interesting about the perception we have of different managers is that is does not seem to be entirely results driven. Derek McIness is a good example. His Kilmarnock team has done no better than us and he is being talked up for the Hearts job. He has had a few seasons now to build a squad and you could argue that the plastic pitch has given them a significant home advantage this season. Without the points collected at home they would have been in real danger of relegation. Stevie Robinson at St Mirren has outperformed McIness in the league over the last three seasons with demographically a similar team and yet he does not seem to have the same reputation . Let's hope we can get a result against Killie in midweek to put some distance between us and them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 44 minutes ago, star sail said: It is difficult to know if Wimmer is taking the team forward at the moment. The lack of defenders does not help. The time for MW to take a team forward, is when its got a majority of his own choice players in it, those comfortable with the style he wants to play etc. Seeing out the season with what he inherited to avoid relegation and the playoffs was the main target, that he has achieved so next it's the rebuild, then we move forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, Spiderpig said: The time for MW to take a team forward, is when its got a majority of his own choice players in it, those comfortable with the style he wants to play etc. Seeing out the season with what he inherited to avoid relegation and the playoffs was the main target, that he has achieved so next it's the rebuild, then we move forward. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 19 hours ago, star sail said: Disappointing result yesterday and it looks increasingly like the season is going to end with a whimper. It is difficult to know if Wimmer is taking the team forward at the moment. The lack of defenders does not help. It would be interesting to compare the stats for Kettlewell and Wimmer this season. One thing I find really interesting about the perception we have of different managers is that is does not seem to be entirely results driven. Derek McIness is a good example. His Kilmarnock team has done no better than us and he is being talked up for the Hearts job. He has had a few seasons now to build a squad and you could argue that the plastic pitch has given them a significant home advantage this season. Without the points collected at home they would have been in real danger of relegation. Stevie Robinson at St Mirren has outperformed McIness in the league over the last three seasons with demographically a similar team and yet he does not seem to have the same reputation . Good post. My overriding memory of this this season is that its been a weird one, characterised by a generational injury list. As for Derek McInnes, be is beloved by the media not the fans and that counts for everything. With the exception of 2 maybe 3 or 4 clubs, the national media doesn't care about fans. Fans of different clubs have different perspectives. Our own support loves entertaining football and value for money. St Johnstone fans, for example, are very different. They tend to be more practical and crave results end of. Generalisations I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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