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Credit to the Board that the media, yet again, has no clue who we're even talking to.

The bookies must love it when we have a vacancy, because they never need to pay out.

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I’ve got a feeling that it’ll either be Neilson or a Wimmeresque random. I also think that the latter will be hard to find, so we may just plump for the ‘safer’ option this time.  

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39 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I’ve got a feeling that it’ll either be Neilson or a Wimmeresque random. I also think that the latter will be hard to find, so we may just plump for the ‘safer’ option this time.  

It's irrelevant who we get, one from the usual failed managers list who will get pelters on here 30 secs after it's announced or an unknown random who will get the same because they don't know the Scottish game etc etc. 

Its the steelmen online way .

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1 hour ago, fizoxy said:

They said the process was going to be the same as last time, and we didn't know anything until the manager was announced, so it will be the same this time around. Last time took 3 weeks, I assume it will be similar this time.

The papers are too busy with Rangers to do any digging on us, and it seems that the leaky ones are no longer at the club. 

There has been absolutely nothing to suggest any candidate is in the running, internal or external, just MJC trying to make Richard Foster happen for some reason. 

Well you know how his feelings/ predictions generally go , so can be dismissed 

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41 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

It's irrelevant who we get, one from the usual failed managers list who will get pelters on here 30 secs after it's announced or an unknown random who will get the same because they don't know the Scottish game etc etc. 

Its the steelmen online way .

Wimmer didn’t get pelters and he still buggered off. 

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28 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Wimmer didn’t get pelters and he still buggered off. 

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a nonsensical dribbling theory which can be easily disproved. 

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3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Calm doon. It won't be foster

Do not think it will be Richard Foster either

Mentioned this last week if Wimmer had left during a season Foster would no doubt be a contender 

In true Well style I think it will be someone nobody has predicted 

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47 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Hope we hear something this week. Need someone in to sort contracts and get players in. 

I suspect that work is ongoing on new players. I half think the manager has been identified but we're waiting on a work permit...

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40 minutes ago, MelvinBragg said:

I suspect that work is ongoing on new players. I half think the manager has been identified but we're waiting on a work permit...

Hope your right. Suppose we already agreed some deals. Im hoping to hear something this week. Partly glad they are not rushing to appoint like Dundee and Killie. Also looks like St Mirren may need a  new manager soon. 

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24 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Hope your right. Suppose we already agreed some deals. Im hoping to hear something this week. Partly glad they are not rushing to appoint like Dundee and Killie. Also looks like St Mirren may need a  new manager soon. 

Why? What’s going on with Robinson? 

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26 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Why? What’s going on with Robinson? 

Plymouth would like to speak to him.

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10 minutes ago, El Grew said:

I think we might be having discussions with Scott Brown.

I hope the discussions involve the words fuck and off.

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Club are dong a great job as always to keep things quiet .

from the available Scottish managers Robbie Nelson feels like the most credible and a decent benchmark .

In reality expect it to be someone unknown /unexpected . Suspect we’ll know by the end of this week .

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10 hours ago, El Grew said:

I think we might be having discussions with Scott Brown.

He was interviewed at Killie and apparently (well, not apparently - actually) his presentation was very impressive. 

As was Kettlewell's, for what its worth.

 

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I’d be quite happy if we were to go for Scott Brown even though I detested him as an opposition player. And can anyone deny he is a winner?

Then again I’m against all this analytics bullshit. It all feels like a bit of a cop out to me. I can hear it now ……’Ah but the data suggested he was the man for the job’. Pretty sure even Kettlewell would have come out well using that system. Did that route not steer Hearts to opt for Cathro, as well as Critchley who outscored McInnes at the time? Crazy and hardly a strong recommendation for its use. 

I’m old school so let’s draw up a list of favourites from home and overseas, invite them in for an interview/presentation and offer the job to the one that comes across best whilst meeting the ethos of the Club…community, youth development, Society interaction etc. 

I wonder how many very successful managers would ever have gotten near their first appointments had analytics been the primary driver? Sometimes gut feeling and what you see with your own eyes might just be the way to go. 

As for Scott Brown, let’s set aside the Celtic connection and the Kipre red card. He had a job to do for his Club and did it very well. Just as he did as a player with Hibs. He is a young, ambitious Manager who is doing well and is highly regarded at Ayr. Did a good job at Fleetwood who were flirting with relegation before his appointment.  He left after a season or so with the Club in turmoil behind the scenes and up for sale. The Ex Chairman was jailed for fraud. We could do a lot worse than Brown.
Whoever we appoint has a huge job on their hands so we need to get things sorted soon. 
 

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16 minutes ago, dennyc said:

Then again I’m against all this analytics bullshit. It all feels like a bit of a cop out to me. I can hear it now ……’Ah but the data suggested he was the man for the job’. Pretty sure even Kettlewell would have come out well using that system. Did that route not steer Hearts to opt for Cathro, as well as Critchley who outscored McInnes at the time? Crazy and hardly a strong recommendation for its use.

To be fair, Kyrk Macmillan has said much the same - that the data is only part of it, and all the interpersonal qualities are equally important.

Like in any other field (VAR, for example), it's still down to people interpreting the output and making the right decisions.

 

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