The Best worst Motherwell Manager ever

[Kmcalpin]

51 minutes ago, Welly Machine said:

Worst would be between Malpas, Kampman and, sorry to say it, Hammell.

Would agree with that, although I'd add McLeish. Harri Kampmann did half a job very well - he got shot of a lot of dross. However he couldn't rebuild the squad. 

[weeyin]

Gannon seemed to be great at scouting players, and definitely brought in some good performers. 

He just completely lose the plot when it came to coaching them.

[star sail]

22 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Gannon seemed to be great at scouting players, and definitely brought in some good performers. 

He just completely lose the plot when it came to coaching them.

I am not sure that it was his coaching ability. He would probably have made a very good coach but he was not a football manager unfortunately .

Some of the younger players like Steven Saunders improved dramatically in a short period of time under his guidance. His problem seemed to be managing the senior players and he did not fully recover from his fall out with Craigan.

Unfortunately that was a pattern that repeated itself when he moved on to other clubs after us. At the time I thought Craigan was possibly at fault for that whole incident but history was to prove that Gannon was never shy about starting a fight with people in Senior positions.

[grizzlyg]

49 minutes ago, mio said:

Paul Kinnaird was an absolute loonball 🤣 I think he was drummed out of fir park as he owed everyone money due to gambling debts. 
Peem weir is Jim Weir (not the Accies guy) Tommy signed him from a German 3rd division team and then fired him straight into a game v rangers and he was horrific. I’m sure he now drives taxis in lesmahagow? I may be wrong with that tho? 

Ahhh I remember him now

[MelvinBragg]

7 hours ago, mio said:

I liked wee McCall as well, a really decent guy and a good manager for us but I have no doubt he’d have got us relegated if he was in charge of us in the play off games. He had a real fear of playing Rangers, the way he put out his sides against them was a disgrace actually. Not that I am saying he was Rangers minded when he was our manager but he did have a real fear factor about them.

Baraclough for all his faults went into those games really attack minded and went for them. I’ll always think favourably about him.

I don't disagree about the playoffs. In my opinion, any of our managers with a background in Scottish football would have gone into those games with the 'wee team' mentality. Baraclough seemed to have the 'we're a Premier League side, they're a Championship side' mentality. Even more impressive, he got that mentality temporarily into players that had shrunk against the Old Firm before...

[Orinoco]

43 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Would agree with that, although I'd add McLeish. Harri Kampmann did half a job very well - he got shot of a lot of dross. However he couldn't rebuild the squad. 

Kampman was always up against it. Bloody foreigners eh! He had ideas,  but it never really went for him. Malpas had no ideas and ability to manage players. McLeish was ok first season with someone else's team. As soon as he tried to be clever and start tinkering it all went to pot. 

McLean made mistakes, but he did give us the platform to stabilise and then grow. 

[MFCL84]

I'll mention Ian St.John as one if the best. I believe it was his masterstroke of pairing Bobby Graham and Wullie Pettigrew. The best striking partnership that I've seen in my time supporting The 'Well.

Other greats have been Tommy McLean (obviously) and Wullie McLean for some great days in the mid-70's when the Premier League was formed. Some great cup days.

Good include McCall, Robinson, McGhee (Mk 1), Butcher for reasons already mentioned in the thread.

On Roger Hynd, I seem to recall that his tenure started with an 8-game unbeaten run. In the 9th game, 2-0 up against Rangers, their fans invaded the pitch and got the game stopped. On restarting, Motherwell appeared shell-shocked and lost 5-3. After that the wheels came off for Hynd. I wonder what would have happened if the game had proceeded without the pitch invasion and Motherwell went on to humiliate Rangers that day.

Worst of all time? Either Malpas or McLeish. Malpas gave us a horrendous season and then on the final game of the season Fir Park refused to let the team come out to the fans. McLeish destroyed a wonderful team and spent loads of money doing it. He then did exactly the same at Hibs and to the extent that anyone can fail, he managed it at Rangers too.

[weeyin]

Good call on Ian St. John. We would likely never had signed Bobby Graham if it wasn't for the influence of his old team mate.

[stv]

Best for thrills Terry Butcher.

Best for the Club ,signed Davie Cooper and a cup winner Tommy McLean.

Worst by a mile Maurice Mr Charisma Malpas.

[Spit_It_Out]

I was genuinely footballing depressed under Malpas I was living in Germany at the time travelling back for games and the flights home I was turning into a borderline alcoholic lol.

 

In recent times will always have a soft spot for McCall thought he had us playing some decent stuff and was just good for the club in general.

 

[grizzlyg]

8 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

I was genuinely footballing depressed under Malpas I was living in Germany at the time travelling back for games and the flights home I was turning into a borderline alcoholic lol.

 

In recent times will always have a soft spot for McCall thought he had us playing some decent stuff and was just good for the club in general.

 

I bumped into McCall in 2016 in reception of bbc studios ( long story) anyway basically I went up to him and said I was a well fan and he chatted away for about 5 mins.......sadly I then started to throw in a few jokes! ( just kidding).  Cracking guy, had a lot of time for him 

[FirParkCornerExile]

Best Tommy McLean just no contest. Took over a club in terminal decline. Finally built a great team over his 10 years, allowed us to build the stadium. 

 

Worst( a few contenders) : Jock Wallace, Malpas, Harri Kampman, Rodger Hynd, Bobby Watson, Billy Davies. They might not have had resources (except Billy Davies) but neither did others who made a better fist of it. Wee Davies is in there because he had the biggest budget outside the OF and took us to the heights of mediocrity. Malpas probably wins the award outright.

[robsterwood]

Best Legend Tommy McClean

Success and played with style.

Worst football to watch as per anti football and agricultural football. Robinson and Kettlewell.

[weeyin]

Malpas was a key player in a Dundee Utd team that at it's peak, not only won the League, but proved they were one of the best teams in Europe. Jim McLean's team was talented and tactically astute. He had also played in World Cup and Euro finals.

So when Malpas took over at Fir Park, I was looking forward to him bringing some of that experience to our team, and instilling them with some tactical nous we had previously lacked.

Turned out the only thing he had learned from McLean was how to be miserable.

 

[wellup83]

In my lifetime: 

Legend - Tommy McLean

For entertainment - McCall

Worst - Malpas by a mile 

Drama - Jim the loose cannon Gannon 

[well_said]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

I bumped into McCall in 2016 in reception of bbc studios ( long story) anyway basically I went up to him and said I was a well fan and he chatted away for about 5 mins.......sadly I then started to throw in a few jokes! ( just kidding).  Cracking guy, had a lot of time for him 

Were you there for an audition for the comedian's, easy to see why you failed the audition.😆

[twistandshout1983]

I remember the day Jim Gannon got the job the Scottish news went to Motherwell Town Centre and spoke to a few people

Do you know who Jim Gannon is ?  Sure one person said does he work for the council 🤣🤣🤣

[grizzlyg]

1 hour ago, well_said said:

Were you there for an audition for the comedian's, easy to see why you failed the audition.😆

Tough crowd 😜😜

[Yabba's Turd]

8 hours ago, mio said:

I always felt McLeish was a lucky manager. He took on an excellent side from McLean and made them better for one season. I think the players did better in this season as they were a bit more relaxed as wee Tommy was a tyrant. He then made a few duff signings and seemed to lose any respect he had from the players in the first season. He was such a media darling tho and got away with murder. 

The story from the dressing room at the time was that the team were basically still playing Tomtom's way until Christmas, then McLeish put together the game plan and tactics for united away, we lost 6-1 and the wheels came off.

[mio]

12 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

The story from the dressing room at the time was that the team were basically still playing Tomtom's way until Christmas, then McLeish put together the game plan and tactics for united away, we lost 6-1 and the wheels came off.

Jeez, I was at that game. I’m pretty sure we scored first that day? F@@ing freezing cold and a horrific game. I’m sure Stevie woods chucked in a few that day too.

[wellsince75]

Think we’ve had lots of very good managers . 
 

Like manny have mentioned McLean  & what he did for the club over a long period is in my lifetime our best manager . 
 

I liked the football under McGhee v1 , same with McCall , Craig brown but overall wee Tommy was my fav .

[well_said]

34 minutes ago, mio said:

Jeez, I was at that game. I’m pretty sure we scored first that day? F@@ing freezing cold and a horrific game. I’m sure Stevie woods chucked in a few that day too.

Ah, Stevie Woods , the only goalie I ever seen that played with his hands in his pockets . Useless twat.

[joewarkfanclub]

Tommy McLean is the best in my lifetime, no doubt.

Brought us up, built a great team, won us the Cup and came as close as any modern day Motherwell manager is ever likely to come to winning the league (despite finishing 3rd).

Without Tommy, no way McLeish gets us to second place.

Favourable mentions to Craig Brown, who despite his Judas behaviour at the end, was a very good manager at the right time, and really should have had us through to the group stages in Europe.

McCall got us best of the rest 3 times and Champions League Football, but he did have a favourable budget and as others have said, was pretty shit in the cups.

No one has mentioned Robbo? 2 Cup Finals in one season is pretty special and if he hadnt come up against one of the best Celtic sides in a long time (twice) he might have an even greater legacy.

Worst? Has to be Malpas. The results were honking. The football was honking. Some the players he signed were honking, and he was boring as hell!

[cambo97]

2 hours ago, mio said:

Jeez, I was at that game. I’m pretty sure we scored first that day? F@@ing freezing cold and a horrific game. I’m sure Stevie woods chucked in a few that day too.

 

1 hour ago, well_said said:

Ah, Stevie Woods , the only goalie I ever seen that played with his hands in his pockets . Useless twat.

It was Scott Howie in goals that day - wonder how many of his horrendous games have been blamed on Wood

[mio]

6 hours ago, cambo97 said:

 

It was Scott Howie in goals that day - wonder how many of his horrendous games have been blamed on Wood

You know I checked after I typed this and saw it was Howie, I forgot all about him. He was another bad McLeish buy.