Wellsince1976 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 7 hours ago, Richie said: Just in and watche highlights Oxlade-Chamberlain should have been on 2 yellows Maeda flings an elbow JT pen claim is no softer than the Celtic one. Fed up of this refereeing time and again. Yip, just watched the highlights and agree with all of that. Celtics penalty and red card I can live with, but how Chamberlain remained on the park is a disgrace. Changes the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, stv said: When was the last time you were at Parkhead or Ibrox it happen all the time. Opposition red cards for fuk all. I think Tex meant for wrestling in the box at a corner. I agree, you dont usually see that. However, when it happens at the back post, your defender is isolated and the keeper has come and missed leaving the goal wide open, it creates a particular set of circumstances that is hard to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Jens didn't sound like he was questioning the penalty or the red card in his interview. VAR were always going to give the first, which was always going to result in the second. It's what the 3 wise monkeys choose not to get involved in that's the pisser, even though we know those were the rules long before VAR existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Makes it even more infuriating that sellik moan and whine about beaton. He gives them more decisions than any other team It's a tried and trusted tactic by them...is there any chance this " Rangers man" is not going to give them all the 50/50 s, the hassle wouldn't be worth it. All the refs are Masons...Ken what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 58 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think Tex meant for wrestling in the box at a corner. I agree, you dont usually see that. However, when it happens at the back post, your defender is isolated and the keeper has come and missed leaving the goal wide open, it creates a particular set of circumstances that is hard to defend. 100% agree Joe. It was a clear penalty and possible red card - I don't know the exact rules about the card in such circumstances. Longelo appeared to elbow his opponent in a bout of wrestling - was that what it was for? If so why wasn't Sevelj red carded at Fir Park for a similar elbowing incident at Fir Park a few weeks ago? Its always hard to tell from carefully edited BBC highlights but on the limited evidence I saw, our defence was pretty poor on several occasions and Ward seemed to have an off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just watched match of the day on I player and seen 4 worse examples of holding in the box in 4 different games. No fouls given no cards issued. Our referees and pound shop VAR are a complete and utter joke compared to down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago After watching highlights I tend to now think pen and red card was correct decision though nice of sportscene not to show ox incident. Sparrow definitely at fault for equaliser but Said badly at fault also. It's gone now and would love to get revenge at fir park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: 100% agree Joe. It was a clear penalty and possible red card - I don't know the exact rules about the card in such circumstances. Longelo appeared to elbow his opponent in a bout of wrestling - was that what it was for? If so why wasn't Sevelj red carded at Fir Park for a similar elbowing incident at Fir Park a few weeks ago? Its always hard to tell from carefully edited BBC highlights but on the limited evidence I saw, our defence was pretty poor on several occasions and Ward seemed to have an off day. I think the red card is for DOGSO. My reading is that Longelo and Maeda are wrestling with each other prior to the corner. Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him. Longelo continues to hold Maeda who has the opportunity to head it towards goal. Longelo prevents this and Maeda goes to ground. If Longelo lets go there is no penalty and no red card. Maeda probably scores, but we still have 11 v 11. Its a sore one, and a lesson learned for Longelo, but I dont think we can argue it. I know some folk think that "double jeopardy" should come into play, but thats only if there is a genuine attempt to play the ball. Longelo has no idea where the ball is, let alone trying to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago For me its the double jeopardy that i have issue with. Penalty yes, and denial of a goalscoring opportunity. But its only a red if its cynically denial of a goalscoring opportunity, otherwise just about every penalty is a red also. Its jostling at a corner, maeda gets the better of him, and the foul happens. Is that a clear and obvious red, when its basically a result of jostling? Not for me. Not like hes scythed him down through on goal. VAR right to step in regarding penalty, shouldn't be recommending a red though. Making it up as they go along though as usual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Longelo gave the officials a decision to make. Very soft but the sort of challenge that the old firm get awarded penalties for week in week out. The issue like the game at Fir Park is that questions need asking on why the officials failed to send Celtic players off for obvious offences. Tho it is a recurring theme for all teams against them. Then you have the officials turn a blind eye to shoves in their box or over zealous challenges. The shove was soft but a foul everytime outside box. Just was targetted yesterday and was kicked constantly with no protection from the officials. Given how tight the title chase is these officials and the decisions they make are only going to be more biased and outrageous. Hearts have no chance. As for the media and Authorities they ignore the big issues and as a result our game is still in the dark ages and struggles to modernise. All we can do is play our football and try to grow as a club. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago MOTM is now available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago All the holding in the box these days drives me nuts. I'm not aware of any changes in the rules, so it really needs to be cut out because it leads to so many inconsistencies in decisions. I'm not talking about jostling for position. I mean the arms around players, grabbing, shirt pulling and the like. Players are coached to do it, and they are coached because they can get away with it. Throw in the fact that teams like Celtic will get those decisions in their favour than teams like us, and it just adds to the frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, mfc88 said: For me its the double jeopardy that i have issue with. Penalty yes, and denial of a goalscoring opportunity. But its only a red if its cynically denial of a goalscoring opportunity, otherwise just about every penalty is a red also. Its jostling at a corner, maeda gets the better of him, and the foul happens. Is that a clear and obvious red, when its basically a result of jostling? Not for me. Not like hes scythed him down through on goal. VAR right to step in regarding penalty, shouldn't be recommending a red though. Making it up as they go along though as usual. If beaton needs var to tell him it was a penalty given his unobstructed view of the incident , then maybe refereeing isn't for him. Cowardly bastard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Orinoco said: Longelo gave the officials a decision to make. Very soft but the sort of challenge that the old firm get awarded penalties for week in week out. The issue like the game at Fir Park is that questions need asking on why the officials failed to send Celtic players off for obvious offences. Tho it is a recurring theme for all teams against them. Then you have the officials turn a blind eye to shoves in their box or over zealous challenges. The shove was soft but a foul everytime outside box. Just was targetted yesterday and was kicked constantly with no protection from the officials. Given how tight the title chase is these officials and the decisions they make are only going to be more biased and outrageous. Hearts have no chance. As for the media and Authorities they ignore the big issues and as a result our game is still in the dark ages and struggles to modernise. All we can do is play our football and try to grow as a club. All designed so that Celtic win the league . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago I can 100 percent accept that was a penalty but 100 percent that is not a red card if thats a red card then no match in world football should be being finishing with 22 players on the park at the end. And the fact I witnessed a Ox Chamberlain stay on the park after a horror tackle proves to me that paying for something that doesnt really work you tend to throw it away and VAR as we use it needs to be thrown right in the bin its refs backing up pal refs with terrible decisions. So reading the messages no we haven't been found out,no the bubble hasn't burst and I don't know what game some of the folk here were watching or listening to yesterday but we were firmly in the game until the Red Card.Its like folk on here are itching at the bit for us to get beat have a bad game so they can moan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago I was always against VAR because, as I said at the time, it was madness to think the same people making bad decisions on the pitch would somehow start making good decisions when they looked at video. It has turned out worse than I thought, because now they are intervening far more than the original claim of overruling "clear and obvious errors" and are practively refereeing games. When you add the ability to make decisions that change games in favour of big teams then the game, as they saym is gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephmc1886 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago It was a judo move from Maeda which made Longelo land on top of him, foul to Motherwell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 50 minutes ago Report Share Posted 50 minutes ago Watched incident again. Shocking refereeing looked like both players tussle in box. Happens at most corner kicks and free kicks. Scottish referees bias. Abysmal standards. That's why I don't go to games against OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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